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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo, America, it's come to this...a 79 year old short fingered vulgarian screams at the POPE to "get his act together"
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-2676704361/"Enough of the idolatry of self and money! Leo said on Saturday, according to the Associated Press. Enough of the display of power! Enough of war!
Trump responded to Pope Leo's criticisms on Sunday on Truth Social.
"Pope Leo is WEAK on Crime, and terrible for Foreign Policy. He talks about 'fear' of the Trump Administration, but doesnt mention the FEAR that the Catholic Church, and all other Christian Organizations, had during COVID when they were arresting priests, ministers, and everybody else, for holding Church Services, even when going outside, and being ten and even twenty feet apart," Trump wrote. "I like his brother Louis much better than I like him, because Louis is all MAGA. He gets it, and Leo doesnt!"
"I dont want a Pope who thinks its terrible that America attacked Venezuela, a Country that was sending massive amounts of Drugs into the United States and, even worse, emptying their prisons, including murderers, drug dealers, and killers, into our Country," Trump added. "And I dont want a Pope who criticizes the President of the United States because Im doing exactly what I was elected, IN A LANDSLIDE, to do, setting Record Low Numbers in Crime, and creating the Greatest Stock Market in History."
"Leo should get his act together as Pope, use Common Sense, stop catering to the Radical Left, and focus on being a Great Pope, not a Politician. Its hurting him very badly and, more importantly, its hurting the Catholic Church!" Trump continued.
Irish_Dem
(81,658 posts)Even Trump cannot be getting into a shouting and insulting match with the POPE.
Maru Kitteh
(31,834 posts)Stupid, evil and dementia all rolled into a limp little porky taco. Negative stars on Yelp. Do not suggest trying them.
Irish_Dem
(81,658 posts)Trump is just total world salad at this point.
Yep stupid, demential, evil all rolled into one very dangerous maniac.
Cha
(319,392 posts)Domestic Terrorists & Drug Kingpins.
Maru Kitteh
(31,834 posts)At first glance, I read the and thought hes so stupid he thinks hes in charge of the Pope because Leo is The First American Pope. But I just dont think he wrote this. This seems written by someone who cares about religion trying to hide behind Trumps legendary idiocy. It seems written by somebody who thinks they know how to go about manipulating people on a religious basis. Somebody with a dog in that fight. Somebody who honestly kinda seems to hate Trump a little.
Who knows.
Cha
(319,392 posts)read what he has to Lie about.... just the "soft on crime.." prat.
I just don't have the stomach for it.
Mahalo, Maru
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jls4561
(3,179 posts)Irish_Dem
(81,658 posts)Kicked them out on their asses and probably cussed up a storm too.
I hope the pope channels his wingman.
Miles Archer
(23,551 posts)None of that stuffy "respect" crap like "His Eminence" or "His Holiness" like the dude would get from Obama or Biden.
How the HELL did America SIGN OFF ON THIS?
Irish_Dem
(81,658 posts)The US has totally lost its way.
wnylib
(26,175 posts)But it is Trump's style.
Irish_Dem
(81,658 posts)It is all insanity. Yes has Hegseth's tone but Trump words.
wnylib
(26,175 posts)Trump puts on phony beliefs for political reasons.
Hegseth actually believes the things that come out of his own mouth.
Irish_Dem
(81,658 posts)He truly believes all this false male bravado.
And that he is anointed by God.
As the leader of the US military is he going to put our troops in harm's way.
On top of his insanity he is drunk all the time.
US generals are not happy campers right now.
wnylib
(26,175 posts)God's anointed one, but because of how he defines God as a projection of himself.
Irish_Dem
(81,658 posts)Hegseth is really insane.
wnylib
(26,175 posts)I found responses that included delusions of divinity. A couple responses said that narcissists can have divinity delusions. Also mentioned were the manic stage of bipolar disorder and schizophrenia.
Hegseth hasn't, AFAIK, said that he is God. But like a lot of religious fanatics, his concept of God is a projection of his own traits onto God. So Hegseth is an angry, belligerent person who believes that he has to destroy enemies (people who don't agree with him). Therefore, his concept of God is a divine being that is angry, belligerent, and a destroyer of enemies who don't agree with him (God).
Consequently, Hegseth believes that God chose him to do the "divine work," of waging war against his (Hegseth's) enemies, like Iran and other individuals or groups who don't agree with him because, in Hegseth's mind, God's enemies are Hegseth's enemies. Very conveniently, Hegseth has a God who gives Hegseth permission to kill Hegseth's enemies in the name of doing God's will. .
Irish_Dem
(81,658 posts)And of course they are both narcissists.
So yes these disorders have delusions of grandeur.
I am just saying that most times when a psychologist goes to evaluate
acute psychosis in the hospital ER, they don't usually see people who
think they are better than God. They might be getting commands or help from
God. They might think they are Elvis or the Beatles.
But insisting they are Jesus. Nope, don't see that every day.
BlueKota
(5,389 posts)its still the largest religious denomination in the U.S. and the World. Tsf needs to be reminded of that loud and clear.
If I were the Pope, I'd tell tsf if he wants the Pope to stay out of politics, then the tsf and his minions need to stay out of religion, and quit pretending that their so called deep faith, is anything but a ploy, to fool the gullible into voting for them.
niyad
(132,874 posts)adults identify as catholic, practicing or not, while some 45 % identify as protestant (and yes, I know that there are various denominations under that umbrella). Some 17 % catholics worldwide.
JBTaurus83
(1,492 posts)Who are very offended by this shit from the pig. Just as hes managed to unite people in Iran, he may also unite anyone with Catholic background.
Irish_Dem
(81,658 posts)Trump also has to destroy anything people love or value.
He cannot stand it, all the love and respect in the world should be going to HIM.
Trump does not respect anybody else's turf.
rustbeltvoice
(491 posts)Irish_Dem
(81,658 posts)rustbeltvoice
(491 posts)Erich Fromm's, The Heart of Man: Its Genius for Good and Evil, 1964, Fromm used the term malignant narcissism. That defines Trump.
It is a madness that tends to grow in the lifetime of the afflicted person. The more he tries to be a god, the more he isolates himself from the human race; this isolation makes him more frightened, everybody becomes his enemy, and in order to stand the resulting fright he has to increase his power, his ruthlessness, and his narcissism.
John Gartner has for several years tried to focus America on this.
Trump suffers from malignant narcissism, a diagnosis [that is] far more toxic and dangerous than mere narcissistic personality disorder because it combines narcissism with three other severely pathological components: paranoia, sociopathy, and sadism. When combined, this perfect storm of psychopathology defines the quintessence of evil, according to Fromm, the closest thing psychiatry has to describing a true human monster.
Gartner's comrade, Howard Marks, The Shallow State @OurShallowState
Narcissistic Mortification is when a narcissist like Trump crosses over to a place where he sees visions of his own demise. A malignant narcissist who once held the loftiest of titles, cannot cope with this. Trump's fears have become "dread." He is very unhinged, yet uncomfortable in the feeling itself, because he knows he's partly responsible. Reality is being forced upon him, that's not of his making. He can't have that!
To put it in more psychological terms, narcissistic mortification is EXTREME fear experienced when one with a rigidly grandiose pathology sees his sense of self as exposed, defective or inferior. It was coined by Freud in his book Moses and Monotheism.
I have maintained that trump is demonic. No one that evil, stupid, and incompetent could advance that far without active protection of the Devil. No one in recorded history has told more lies than him. The father of lies is the Devil, trump is protege and apprentice.
Irish_Dem
(81,658 posts)I have not ruled out bipolar either.
The man is very dangerous.
Yet the country adores him.
I agree, sometimes insanity crosses a line into pure evil.
Trump is evil to his core.
Sparkly
(24,889 posts)when I glanced at the NYTimes headline, "Trump attacks Pope."
Irish_Dem
(81,658 posts)I thought that had to be a joke.
Bettie
(19,770 posts)terrible, terrible version of humanity he is.
He's literally the worst person in the world....the least self-aware, the least emotionally intelligent....he's what a focus group would come up with to portray a villain and then have it rejected as "too over the top".
SheltieLover
(80,997 posts)Keepthesoulalive
(2,322 posts)That is the most incredible incoherent word salad he has uttered since trying to extort Iran.
Irish_Dem
(81,658 posts)An even more dangerous stage is ahead of us.
He thinks he is better than God.
Keepthesoulalive
(2,322 posts)And whenever someone thinks that we remove them from society and put them in a long term facility.
Irish_Dem
(81,658 posts)If he were anyone else he would be in prison or in a locked inpatient psych unit.
Rhiannon12866
(256,404 posts)So he could avoid prison, but he knew that they never would...
Irish_Dem
(81,658 posts)They think God sent him as a gift to the world.
Sounds like a big group of Americans needs to be a locked facility.
rustbeltvoice
(491 posts)Keepthesoulalive
(2,322 posts)It is reported that the Angel who went against god said, this idiot is too stupid to join us he would degrade the intellect down here.
Irish_Dem
(81,658 posts)Shaking her head in disgust.
Someone so bad, he is not even fit for hell.
My Irish grandmother was a happy go lucky type, merry, good humor, etc.
So I knew someone had to be quite bad for her to go into a dark scowl and
say he was so bad the devil rejected him.
I keep thinking about that statement and Trump.
Diamond_Dog
(40,715 posts)Raven123
(7,848 posts)United States Roman Catholic leadership who have aligned themselves with Trump.
Irish_Dem
(81,658 posts)Cha
(319,392 posts)the Sickeningly Fucking Projecting PEDO .

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(136,120 posts)newdeal2
(5,485 posts)Thats where I see this going. Hell open up a bunch as franchises and have his painting next to Jesus. Of course all donations go to him.
Miles Archer
(23,551 posts)It's worth noting that Scientology vigorously denies this being an actual quote from Hubbard.
calimary
(90,243 posts)You don't get rich writing science fiction. If you want to get rich, you start a religion." ― L. Ron Hubbard
wnylib
(26,175 posts)that he'd fear someone would think he was Latino.
muriel_volestrangler
(106,309 posts)Iâm not sure it has broken through to the general public that the president is a megalomaniac crazy person. Hopefully posts like this help.
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2026-04-13T02:44:03.727Z
"Next to Jesus"? No, replacing him. After all, Jesus was weak on crime too.
newdeal2
(5,485 posts)blogslug
(39,179 posts)And he has his act together just fine:
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(136,120 posts)Not what I would have expected but the young folks seem to like it.
Aviation Pro
(15,625 posts)..
GenThePerservering
(3,467 posts)and this slaps!
Permanut
(8,435 posts)who voted for Mango Mussolini, explaining their support, and their plans for the midterms.
Buddyzbuddy
(2,709 posts)dope are a much higher concentration of Catholics than 56% and I hope they're taking notice and regretting their choice.
Permanut
(8,435 posts)Some of our hispanic friends have stopped communicating; waiting for this nightmare to be over.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(136,120 posts)He wonders why Pope Leo won't do the same.
edbermac
(16,463 posts)Doodley
(11,959 posts)Dave Bowman
(7,273 posts)misanthrope
(9,510 posts)My condescending and highly conservative in-laws are going through some stuff right now and I am here for every second of it.
bif
(27,045 posts)misanthrope
(9,510 posts)over their shared protection of pedophiles.
usonian
(25,722 posts)Speak to me Monday.
BTW, Jesus forgives, because people repent.
Trump forgives because they don't.
cuz he's .... uhhh

Tasmanian Devil
(174 posts)His full post deserves to be read slowly, with feeling. Note he's also taking credit for Leo having been chosen as the Pope.
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116394704213456431
Next week he'll be demanding to be made a saint along with that overdue peace prize.
25th 4 and impeachment both!
calimary
(90,243 posts)dalton99a
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travelingthrulife
(5,286 posts)SomedayKindaLove
(1,194 posts)Pope Leo fears you like the priests feared Covid? Im not sure comparing yourself to Covid is sound strategy during an election year but sure why not at this point
BidenRocks
(3,325 posts)Joinfortmill
(21,298 posts)sinkingfeeling
(57,848 posts)summer_in_TX
(4,188 posts)1d
NEW: Pope Leo XIVs close ally Cardinal Robert McElroy received a standing ovation at the end of his homily, where he called on Catholics to take up civic action to help end the immoral war against Iran.
When we leave this church tonight, we must move beyond prayer. As citizens and believers in this democracy that we cherish so deeply, we must advocate for peace with our representatives and leaders.
It is not enough to say we have prayed. We must also act. For it is very possible that the negotiations will fail because of recalcitrance on both sides, and the president will move to re-enter this immoral war.
At that critical juncture, as disciples of Jesus Christ called to be peacemakers in the world, we must answer vocally and in unison:
No. Not in our name. Not at this moment. Not with our country.
LETTERS FROM LEO THE AMERICAN POPE & US POLITICS
Enough of War Pope Leo XIV Denounces the Delusion of Omnipotence at St. Peter's Prayer Vigil
AZJonnie
(3,765 posts)Or, rather, when you looked into it, it was this ONE "former agent" (or the like) who it turned out was clearly conflating two totally separate DHS bulletins into one storyline. IOW, it's not an intel report, it's there's this one dude who made this claim in some interview, that then got spread far and wide in RWNJ circles. Where IQ47 apparently caught wind of it, and he's never let go of this bullshit story since.
It's fucking pathetic
malaise
(296,656 posts)Yesterday the Euro RWs, Donvict, Rubio, Vance, CPAC, Fux, Fucker Carlson , dead hero Charlie, MAGAts, ReTHUGs et al were humiliated by the Hungarian people.
Keep on digging more holes losers. November is coming.
Kid Berwyn
(24,603 posts)Or unblock the Strait of Hormuz.
Either way, show Dimdonniechucklenuts how it's done.
Vinca
(54,097 posts)dweller
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