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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRemember when Trump pretended to be slightly nicked on the ear?
Many here (and elsewhere) recognized it as an obviously staged event to boost his campaign.
And some here dismissed that idea for... reasons, I guess?
Specifically, they doubted that even Trump would sacrifice someone's life for his own gain.
Well here we are. He's murdered a school full of children, he blew up dozens of Venezuelans on open water, summarily torpedoed Iranians in international waters, and now we find that he's killed multiple innocent people in Cuban hospitals by denying them access to life-saving power. And that's in addition to any deaths he's alleged to have ordered according to the Epstein files, and the uncounted deaths ongoing during his Iran fiasco.
At this point I think it's pretty clear that he's willing to murder to protect himself, so how can one imagine that anything is beyond him?
And look at that perfect, unscarred ear!
rampartd
(4,586 posts)i think they consciously message this kind of "left behind" bull shit for the benefit of his evangelicals. the troops have all been told that this is the battle of armageddon.
And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
MyOwnPeace
(17,542 posts)claimed that he was 'protected and saved' by God.
My question has always been: Why was God pissed of at the fireman sitting behind him and let him die?
ninjanurse
(130 posts)Was his name, if anyone cares.
BidenRocks
(3,228 posts)The grave is empty and Corey is in witness protection!
Easterncedar
(6,195 posts)Stage an assassination attempt, unify your support during an election. Classic.
yellow dahlia
(5,777 posts)MadameButterfly
(4,033 posts)and the country isn't flipping out over this
Scrivener7
(59,426 posts)themaguffin
(5,206 posts)Cheezoholic
(3,706 posts)ashredux
(2,927 posts)Two things, one if your ear is nicked, it does not heal back like nothing happened to it, there is always scarring and it doesnt grow back.
Next, if someone just shot you and nicked your ear, you wouldnt then stand up and give a fist bump to the crowd.
And lastly, the blood trail
. Thats not how reality looks, it was too clean down the side of the face, and actually a lot of blood. He had a fake blood capsule already behind the ear and just busted it when he put his hand up. Classic movie stuff.
Delmette2.0
(4,501 posts)The healing process is a bit longer also.
There would have been a scab for over a week and then a nice pink scar.
mercuryblues
(16,384 posts)I am not sure it was staged. but it would not surprise me.
Let me just say this...the gun that was used, you don't "graze" an ear. There would be noticeable scarring.
Ms. Toad
(38,571 posts)Anyone looking at photos of his ear can see it, especially if you have seen scarring from cartilage damage up close - as I have.
And gun damage isn't binary (zero damage or total obliteration) There is always an area in which there is a gradation of damage between the zero damage and total obliteration. Not to mention that it is entirely conceivable that a chip from something hit directly which bounced up and hit his ear. Neither scenarios (both of which are far more likely than that a "near miss" was staged in a constantly moving scene) suggest that the threat was not real.
Trueblue Texan
(4,425 posts)The blood should have been splattered behind his ear. It's true he could have dragged the blood forward onto his cheek with his hand, but there should have been blood in his hair, behind his ear. I never saw any. Did anyone else? Also, was his hand bloody? I don't recall that.
Ms. Toad
(38,571 posts)And do you seriously believe Trump would subject himself to the personal risk of a shot which misses his brain by millimeters for political gain?
Yes, he is a murderer, a liar, a coward, etc. And would do anything that does not require bravery to maintain control over the US. But connecting his character defects to an incident in which an innocent person lost his life and alleging it was just a stunt (which would require bravery far beyond anything this monster possesses) is a step too far.
Jedi Guy
(3,467 posts)I've noticed it's a role you frequently step into and you do so very well.
It's really sad to see this kind of kooky conspiracy nonsense taken seriously around here.
Ms. Toad
(38,571 posts)But it's better to speak up when we're engaging in conspiracy nonsense than to let it continue unchecked.
Maru Kitteh
(31,723 posts)exercise the discipline and intelligence necessary to carry out such an elaborate plan and then keep it secret. They are not capable or competent persons.
Ritabert
(2,387 posts)His actions after the "attempt" show it was fake. Nobody stands up for a fist pump with an artfully arranged flag behind him for a memorial photo which appeared on merchandise within days. No real Secret Service agent would allow him to do it. Contrast that with the Reagan assassination attempt. The SS covered him with their bodies and whisked him into the limo immediately.
Ms. Toad
(38,571 posts)You really expect me to believe that Trump, a coward, would put himself in the line of real live bullets (which indisputably killed someone)?
His actions after the attempt show only how stupid he is, in focusing on a photo opportunity - rather than realizing his life was likely still in danger.
ProfessorGAC
(76,610 posts)In his case, the simplest explanation is the default position of him being an idiot.
In fact, even the fist bump was more likely one of his handlers telling him to do that without checking with Secret Service.
Stupid surrounding stupid.
There is a mountain of evidence that he is a dope. Not much reason to look deeper when stupid explains everything.
Ms. Toad
(38,571 posts)BidenRocks
(3,228 posts)Ritabert
(2,387 posts)The gun could have been left for him on the roof. Security obviously wasn't doing its job.
Ms. Toad
(38,571 posts)sarisataka
(22,640 posts)It seems to have been forgotten what actually happened that day. People died.
BidenRocks
(3,228 posts)Chump has done nothing to warrant any trust.
Just show us the bodies and a credible M.E. autopsy, if there is a body
I retired from the entertainment industry.
These were practical effects. Looks real.
I need proof! That's how much I distrust this country!
Suckers and losers, eh?
Ritabert
(2,387 posts)Ritabert
(2,387 posts)Ritabert
(2,387 posts)generalbetrayus
(1,824 posts)My only countering idea is that maybe one or more of his campaign officials dreamed up the "assassination" attempt without telling the dotard. Like some of those clowns would really give a shit if the shooter misfired and took out the target instead of just clipping his external ear.
MustLoveBeagles
(16,196 posts)He's guilty of a lot of things but this isn't one of them. He wouldn't put himself on physical danger for any reason nevermind a publicly stunt. He's a coward.
Melon
(1,501 posts)Lets not pretend they were the crack outfit that the US employed for decades. Half of them honestly didnt look like the knew what to do. They let him put his shoe on as well. It was just a cluster.
Crunchy Frog
(28,261 posts)just don't know what to look for.
Ms. Toad
(38,571 posts)I just look at the images posted here claiming no scarring.
In general, look for an area on the ear that is whiter than the surrounding area. If you drew a rectangle around his right ear, the scarring is at the upper left corner of the triangle.
jmowreader
(53,162 posts)You remember that right after the shot rang out his Secret Service detail slammed him to the ground. I suspect what REALLY happened was he hit his ear on a corner of the podium base.
purr-rat beauty
(1,225 posts)And even though I am not religious, he fits the image of the Anti_Christ to a Tee
Torchlight
(6,761 posts)I envy the discipline it would take, but relieved I lack the particular absence of character required for the Statlers and Waldorfs to illustrate such a devoted and consistent concern for his almost perfcet well-being. Washington's a big town. Internet's a big place.
Tree Lady
(13,261 posts)I totally think it was staged because no way would secret service ever let a president who has just been shot at get up and raise his arm like that. It's against every rule and for those that say Trump made them let him up, when it comes to being shot at secret service is suppose take over and keep him down.
EdmondDantes_
(1,741 posts)The same secret service that had to relieve 11 agents of their duties on a foreign trip with Obama because they were distracted by hiring prostitutes?
They aren't perfect. Usually still more than good enough, but not perfect.
sarisataka
(22,640 posts)I can remember when DU prided itself on being fact based.
usaf-vet
(7,802 posts).... let him stand straight up with a raised fist. IF THERE WAS ANY QUESTION ABOUT A SECOND SHOOTER.
In my honest opinion, it was a totally staged event. What happened to the "shooter"?
KT2000
(22,136 posts)It was horrendous and people saw it as that. Now, killing of civilians is acceptable with an entire political party condoning it. Then, may worked hard to cover up the massacre but now it is how America fights its wars.
We are not all that anymore, just thugs and murderers.
2na fisherman
(319 posts)Trump once participated in a wrestling performance. Not so sure about a supposedly fake attempt but thousands of jihadist assassins will now be highly motivated to be martyred in service to the elimination of this leader of the Great Satan.
hamsterjill
(17,551 posts)The asshole is evil and knows no bounds. He'd sell one of his kids if he thought he could make a buck or look good doing it.
Crunchy Frog
(28,261 posts)Or maybe he was miraculously healed by Gawd.
Blue Owl
(58,996 posts)Blue Full Moon
(3,446 posts)I liked how they staged photo journalists just behind the stage so they could get that staged photo op.
Evolve Dammit
(21,761 posts)yellow dahlia
(5,777 posts)He is capable of anything. Sure - death is likely to reach a desired outcome. But he clearly gets a sadistic pleasure from the death and destruction of others. I can hear it in his voice as he recites the maiming and injuries and death of others.
Greybnk48
(10,718 posts)What a psychopathic scumbag.
MervinFerd
(2,110 posts)No one doubts Trump, or people around him, would kill.
But, unless you can come up with a remotely plausible "theory of the crime", you are making ridiculous, impossible claims.
ShazzieB
(22,553 posts)I can understand why people think it was, but I haven't looked into the evidence on either side closely enough to decide whether it was. However, I definitely believe him to to be capable of such a thing, as I believe him to be capable of doing just about anything to save his own sorry ass. He would throw absolutely anyone or anything under the bus to save himself, no question.
As I have said many times before, other humans beings are not real to him the way they are to the rest of us. Other people matter to him only insofar as they are useful to him, whether that be to carry out his orders, to perform tasks that he thinks are beneath him, to protect him (i.e., the Secret Service), to provide him with ego boosts and other types of gratification (emotional, sexual, etc.), to provide opportunities for him to increase his wealth, or whatever it is he requires from them. In other words, his valuation of any person is based on what he thinks they can do for him. As soon as someone stops providing what he wants or (God forbid) voices disagreement with or criticism of him, he is through with them, finished, done, kaput, and he will throw them under the nearest bus without a moment's thought.
Granted, some people seem to get away with more than others before being consigned to the trash heap by Trump, but I don't think anyone is invulnerable. Some are more skilled than others at figuring how out to stay in his good graces, but I'm sure the smarter ones know that they too could fall out of favor at any time and do their best to avoid crossing any line that would cause that to happen, wherever that line may be.
tritsofme
(19,885 posts)You better watch out, sounds like you stumbled onto something super duper serious!
Martin Eden
(15,578 posts)According to AI, a bullet at that speed creates a mini shockwave that would damage hearing if passing within 1.2 meters of a human ear.
If it actually passed within an inch, Trump would certainly have permanent hearing damage in that ear, possibly total loss.
To sustain a slight nick in that ear without severe hearing loss, it would have to be a fragment of a bullet after hitting something else first.
Where is the forensics report that identifies the path of each bullet; objects (including people) that were struck; and the condition of the bullets that were recovered?
ffr
(23,393 posts)What a fucking joke. The media of 50 years ago would have nailed his ass to the wall, but not the corporate media.
Javaman
(65,668 posts)he would never murder anyone...he always gets someone else to do it.
because at the very center of who he is (he has no heart) he's a coward.
generalbetrayus
(1,824 posts)n his lower ear lobe. Cartilage does not regenerate, but the skin covering it should. I'm not convinced, however. that these images show damage to the cartilage. Lighting could be an issue.
