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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNotice how when three or four women accuse Cesar Chavez of rape and
pedophilia the left immediately acknowledges them and multiple municipalities begin the process of removing his name from public sites. But long after Trump is accused by 30 women of rape and sexual misconduct, after a tape of him bragging about molesting women is played repeatedly on national media, after he is adjudicated to be guilty of sexual assault in a court of law, after he is accused in a sworn statement to the FBI for having raped the accuser when she was a thirteen year old girl, after his name appears over a million times in the emails and records of a globally known pedophile and child sex trafficker the Republicans name an airport after him.
Spazito
(55,390 posts)well said.
Roy Rolling
(7,613 posts)Guagamela wins the Internet today. Can I copy this, G?
2naSalit
(102,341 posts)One of the myriad problems in our society that make life suck.
Whip-poor-will
(175 posts)Let's define the new trump gold plated coin "a raper" like we do with penny, dime, quarter.
There are no alternate facts to rape don't you know.
MichMan
(17,092 posts)It wouldn't have had nearly the impact had it been anyone else leveling the accusations.
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Especially here in N. California. She was a guest lecturer at our local JC a few years ago.
BaronChocula
(4,493 posts)in all the places Chavez's name is being removed.
LisaM
(29,610 posts)For some reason, we seem to need to attach names to what are really broad grassroots causes. It should be Farm Workers Day or UFW Hall, etc.
I guess there might be some schools and so forth that have a name on them, but it seems to me that part of what's going on is that we have this need to idolize individuals over the cause they represent. And most individuals aren't perfect.
EdmondDantes_
(1,730 posts)Not that anybody doesn't have the ability to cause harm, but the more power in whatever form, the easier it is to abuse that power.
LisaM
(29,610 posts)People are so anxious to have a charismatic candidate they often don't even care if they're qualified! In the meantime, the meat and bones of the party or the cause or whatever are rarely discussed. I know I blather on about the Democratic party platform being ignored at the convention, but I really believe this need for rock star candidates is bogging us down.
Attilatheblond
(8,795 posts)of hero-worshipers going on about how that person should be our candidate for POTUS. It is lazy, annoying and pretty naive.
You hit the nail on the head "People are so anxious to have a charismatic candidate they often don't even care if they're qualified!"
Good DEM candidates tend to be well rounded, well versed in the issues facing the nation, and possessed of resumes showing a variety of experiences that build into a career that holds up qualifications and demonstrates temperament, judgement, and common sense. Then have to be team builders, able to draw good people with specialized knowledge and skills to cover ALL the departments of the executive branch, and they have to be comfortable enough to trust the experts they appoint.
Grasping at the latest clever pundit isn't gonna give us that candidate.
Ignoring those necessary qualifications and going for someone who says what people want to hear is how the GOP ended up with the worst president this nation has ever been saddled with.
MichMan
(17,092 posts)People here were touting him as a presidential candidate
LisaM
(29,610 posts)Thank you.
It further ends up only promoting these charismatic types who turn out to have the characteristics of cult leaders.
MustLoveBeagles
(16,124 posts)Should be renamed in honor of Ms,
Huerta's courage.
WarGamer
(18,585 posts)twodogsbarking
(18,597 posts)MLWR
(998 posts)in their unwritten CVs.
milestogo
(23,040 posts)BidenRocks
(3,209 posts)Here you are posting the exact same thing I was going to. There must be millions of us thinking this!
Chump is a convicted sexual felon!
Equal treatment MUST be applied!
Disappear his name and likeness.
Take his voice too!
paleotn
(22,146 posts)We should remember that whenever we see anyone still carrying the Republican brand. Be it my governor, Phil Scott, Susan Collins or Markwayne Mullin, who's apparently the best and brightest Oklahoma has to offer.
GiqueCee
(4,093 posts)... that the Republican Party has, indeed, metastasized into a terrorist organization with the moral compass of a pack of rabid hyenas.
They are filth, and they should be treated the same way that Germany treated the Nazi Party after WWII. Banned from existence for all eternity.
It's worth noting that the Founding Fathers loathed the very thought of political parties existing at all. Sadly, that's one concept that didn't take. And look at us now.
kimbutgar
(27,206 posts)St. I was so upset and disgusted when I heard Ms. Huerta confess it!
BidenRocks
(3,209 posts)The news is GLEEFULLY reporting this story!
Allegedly: A term used when something is said to be true but has not been confirmed or substantiated. Used to describe a person who has been charged with a crime, though a final decision has not been reached by a court.
There is more evidence of wrongdoing from chump!
I am defending nothing except the rule of law.
If Chavez were still around, the mob would be getting a rope and tree ready.
valleyrogue
(2,695 posts)Were you there? She says she had TWO CHILDREN as a result of rapes by Chavez.
She has absolutely NOTHING to gain by saying this sixty, sixty-five years after the fact.
BidenRocks
(3,209 posts)I was reading the definition of allegation.
Chavez is not legally convicted of anything.
Chump is.
I am amazed at the speed of this. Statues down and things renamed.
Meanwhile a convicted sexual abuser is president.
I'm too old for this shit.
RockCreek
(1,461 posts)AllaN01Bear
(29,339 posts)bfoxmatt
(51 posts)What is wrong with people who can't see through our piece-of-shit pervert in chief! I really don't think all Repubs are that evil, but I also hate to think that they are that dumb to believe in Dump!
chowder66
(12,200 posts)Response to Gaugamela (Original post)
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valleyrogue
(2,695 posts)She is a major, major figure in the history of union rights for farm workers. She is as celebrated as it gets.
valleyrogue
(2,695 posts)the NYT reporters worked on this story for FIVE years. This wasn't something that was concocted by the political right.
Chavez was a piece of shit rapist. His reputation is ruined through his own actions.
GAJMac
(266 posts)debsy
(907 posts)Martin68
(27,624 posts)Liberty Belle
(9,706 posts)They spent 5 years investigating claims of sexual abuse by Chavez.
They interviewed 60 people.
They got 3 women to go on record, by name, including the famous and respected Dolores Huerta.
They got family members to confirm that 2 victims told the relatives at the time that they were raped or molested by Chavez around ages 13 to 15.
They pored through emails and other correspondence.
They obtained DNA evidence proving Chavez had fathered several children out of wedlock.
If the FBI had investigated even a fraction of the most serious claims against Trump and had the Justice Dept. been willing to file charges, he would be in prison today, not the White House. Instead, they turned a blind eye and actively covered up evidence, as did Pam Bondi when she was in Florida sweeping Epstein's crimes under the rug. They didn't even go after other men who raped children on Epstein's island. At least Britain and some corporations and schools are making efforts to hold people accountable who cavorted with Epstein, but not the U.S. Justice Dept., which has lost all credibility.
I suppose the only accountability most of those pedophiles will have will happen in hell.
Marie Marie
(11,229 posts)it is going to be so much fun watching them remove it, one by one, as the disgrace of his Presidency becomes apparent and his corruption goes down in the history books as unprecedented and unparalleled.
Maru Kitteh
(31,674 posts)Whoever they are, wherever they are found, they need to be called out and removed from society.
thought crime
(1,519 posts)ColoringFool
(641 posts)jfz9580m
(17,108 posts)obamanut2012
(29,335 posts)themaguffin
(5,182 posts)New Breed Leader
(922 posts)it's a hell of a drug...
Quiet Em
(2,896 posts)It's disturbing that so many are still willing to turn a blind eye to it. I get your point and your frustration that the condemnation against those who commit these acts is not equally applied and that is a very sad reflection on our society.
The victims, or survivors, all endured the same pain and feelings of isolation.