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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMy Cardiologist Is Applying to my Insurance Company to See if I Can Have a $6,500 Injection.
I apparently have a problematic aortic valve that murmurs sweetly (aortic stenosis), which if I read the literature correctly, means I can drop dead at anytime. For severe aortic stenosis - mine is described as moderate but worsening - life expectancy for someone my age is about three years. That of course is average, some people die more quickly, some last longer.
It's related to my elevated LDL levels, which my cardiologist believes is not related to my diet - I haven't eaten a mammal or bird in close to 50 years - but to my genetics, he says. (I'm not sure about this; I have to look it up.)
He told me he'll contact my insurance company to see if I can have an injection of inclisiran, which is a swell RNA drug with which I have some familiarity in a scientific sense.
Statins don't touch it, and in any case, I have developed after 30 years on statins, great muscular sensitivity to them.
This is amusing: The doctor has to ask the insurance company it's OK.
If it happens I'm not around here anymore, having disappeared suddenly, this is a potential reason for the outcome.
I'm not all that upset about any of it; I've had a long and wonderful life and a sense of mortality makes it more precious, but I will confess to doing some Kubler Ross type bargaining.
I mean, I got to fall in love and to be parent to two wonderful young men.
By the way, I don't have a problem with the cost of the drug. I understand intimately the costs that went into developing it. The economic implications of "one and done" shots is highly problematic, and I confess that I do like to get paid for what I do, and, if doses are rare, the cost has to be covered high per dose prices.
We'll see what happens; there are multiple treatment options, including valve replacement but the ethics of the expense strike me as worthy of consideration. Money spent on an old man is not quite as valuable as that spent on a younger person.
murielm99
(32,953 posts)We need you.
Swede
(39,230 posts)I don't know if how you chose your DU name, but this is what comes up for "nadir".
Nadir is part of the galaxy of scientific words that have come to us from Arabic, a language that has made important contributions to the English lexicon especially in the fields of mathematics, astronomy, medicine, and chemistry. The source of nadir is naḍhīr, meaning "opposite"the opposite, that is, of the zenith, the highest point of the celestial sphere which is positioned vertically above the observer. (The word zenith itself is a modification of another Arabic word that means "the way over one's head."
According to our sources, usage of nadir reached an apex in the 1980s. But worry not for the words future: its still flying high.
Synonyms of nadir
Relevance
depth
zero
abyss
Examples of nadir in a Sentence
Nantucket reached its nadir in the post-Civil War period. The whaling industry had become moribund, many New Englanders had been lured to California by the discovery of gold, and the island population dropped from ten thousand in 1830 to scarcely more than three thousand in 1880.
David H. Wood, Antiques, August 1995
But then, at the very nadir of that dark abandoned moment, that moment of despair and sickness unto death,
T. Coraghessan Boyle, The Road to Wellville, 1993
My nadir was the time I presented an oral book report on "Les Misérables," having read only the Classic Comics version
Stephen Jay Gould, New York Times Book Review, 12 Oct. 1986
The relationship between the two countries reached a nadir in the 1920s.
the discussion really reached its nadir when people resorted to name-calling
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Tudor bears ultimate responsibility for Spurs latest nadir in Madrid for starting Kinsky, and his treatment of the 22-year-old Czech was brutal.
Oliver Kay, New York Times, 10 Mar. 2026
Born in the nadir of the Great Depression, SAG began as an act of self-preservation in response to demands by the major Hollywood studios that the talent pool eat a 50 percent salary cut.
Thomas Doherty, HollywoodReporter, 28 Feb. 2026
Four years ago, the womens figure skating event was the absolute nadir of the Beijing Winter Games, after a trio of teenagers from Russia finished the competition in tears under the cloud of a positive doping test by Kamila Valieva.
Sara Germano, Sportico.com, 23 Feb. 2026
Tangs last three seasons have not matched his first, a series of diminishing returns that are reaching their nadir this year.
Dana ONeil, CNN Money, 17 Feb. 2026
Word History
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Middle English, from Middle French, from Arabic naḍhīr opposite
First Known Use
15th century, in the meaning defined at sense 1
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NNadir
(37,891 posts)Last edited Sun Mar 15, 2026, 05:48 PM - Edit history (1)
After the travesty of the 2000 Presidential election there was a lot of carrying on about the effect of Ralph Nader on the election in Florida.
The first blog on which I wrote was one called "Smirking Chimp" which was populated by pro-Nader and anti-Nader types.
I have never had any use his holiness Ralph Nader, and so signed up as "NaderNadir," meaning his anti-Gore campaign was a "nadir" for that asshole.
When I migrated to DU - the best American leftist political blog on the internet - I didn't want to bring along that asshole's name, since people sometimes abbreviated it to "Nader" so I dropped the "-ader."
We have, since 2000, certainly reached a new "nadir" as a country, I think, interrupted by the glorious Obama and Biden years.
niyad
(131,923 posts)column, "Everyone's Entitled To My Opinion"? I read it with my coffee in hand every morning.
surfered
(13,133 posts)NNadir
(37,891 posts)I'd love to know how that works. If it comes to it, I'll definitely look into how it does so. I just might do so anyway.
ratchiweenie
(8,197 posts)what happens.
LuckyCharms
(22,507 posts)I used to take my mom to all of her doctor's visits.
During a visit when she was around 80 years old, we were told that she had aortic stenosis that was pretty severe, and her options at that time were very limited. The cardiologist balked at surgery, which he said in her case, there was about a 20% chance of failure.
I remember walking my mom back to my vehicle, and then going back in to speak to the cardiologist one-on-one. He told me that she likely had less than a year to live. I broke down in the office and had to compose myself before going back to the car to bring my mom home.
As it happened, she lasted about another 14 years, and died at age of 94 due to something unrelated to her heart.
This was years ago, and I'm sure that there have been improvements in treatment, including the Inclisiran, which appears to have been placed on the market in 2021.
Try to keep positive thoughts, and push the dark thoughts away. You're a smart guy, and you will naturally pursue the options that are right for you in your case.
Tell yourself that you will likely be around for awhile...I'm sure that you will be.
NNadir
(37,891 posts)...I'll punch you in the eye! (A joke between my friend Lucky for any potential alerters around here.)
Seriously...no dark thoughts. I'm the only one here who is allowed to have dark thoughts!
You're going to do what you need to do.
Your knowledge and intuition will inform your decision on how to proceed.
You're not going to drop dead. You're going to be alright.
niyad
(131,923 posts)niyad
(131,923 posts)Polly Hennessey
(8,791 posts)I would say you are worth far more than $6,500. Worth is immeasurable, or so I have heard. 🤗🍀👍
OLDMDDEM
(3,158 posts)Cheezoholic
(3,686 posts)EndlessMaze
(84 posts)I was ambivalent about getting the surgery, but it worked out great, and the recovery time was tolerable. Now I'm retired, and in my late 60s. Totally worth it. Even if I have to endure the orange nemesis.
gay texan
(3,202 posts)LoisB
(12,877 posts)resolves the problem. Many an old person has more "worth" than many a young person (in my humble opinion). We don't cease to be valuable because we are old.
jfz9580m
(17,037 posts)Lets hope for the best. 🤞
These things arent that mathematical wrt human health. Hopefully you beat the odds whatever you choose..
AltairIV
(1,030 posts)Gore1FL
(22,939 posts)It's twice-a-month self-injection vs twice a year injection by a medical professional.
area51
(12,655 posts)And F the insurance companies.
AverageOldGuy
(3,746 posts)Let's see -- we have two options:
1. Spend $6,500 to save a life.
2. Spend the $6,500 on another bespoke suit from a London tailor for the pharma CEO.
Norrrm
(4,844 posts)We can just wait him out.
hamsterjill
(17,522 posts)Just wanted to wish you all the very best. Please keep us posted on the status. Take the best care of yourself possible, and as I'm sure you already know (I can tell from your attitude!!!) don't stop living.
dalton99a
(93,861 posts)Transcatheter aortic valve replacement (TAVR)
NNadir
(37,891 posts)If it comes to that I'll certainly look into the details.
LetMyPeopleVote
(178,953 posts)erronis
(23,653 posts)I just started a new immunotherapy drug for CLL (leukemia) that is listed at $18,000 per month (60 tablets) - taken the rest of my life. My copay per month would be around $2,000 which wouldn't be possible.
Someone mentioned a grant that would cover the copay and I am extremely grateful to the generosity of the grantor. The other benefit is that the first month's copay covered my "donut hole" so I have no more "covered" drug payments this year.
The US healthcare system, especially pharmaceuticals, is extremely messed up.
Anyway, I wish you the best - especially since I need your frequent excursions into science and other strong opinions.
h2ebits
(996 posts)I just saw a cardiologist for the first time. I had an echo cardiogram on Thursday and am awaiting the arrival of the heart monitor that I will be wearing for a month.
A one sentence "Results" for the echo has been posted to my account . I'm assuming that more information will be added but last night I did my armchair analysis via Internet--revealing next to nothing.
Obviously, there is a problem with my heart but I can't share it with my kids and family until I get an actual diagnosis and directions for moving forward so this is a scary time for me.
Please listen and take heart.
It is great to have the DU community here offering support. And, while it is support for you, it is also support for the rest of the community, as well.
Thank you for sharing. And thank you to all who have commented.
I am a grateful member of the DU community.
jfz9580m
(17,037 posts)Yes it is a great (dammit ..great, like ..so many words ruined by Trump, Facebook etc) community.
I wish you all the best. Lets hope it turns out to be nothing.
h2ebits
(996 posts)littlemissmartypants
(32,965 posts)It's awful and unfair but time marching is going to find all of us. It will be a great loss if you go. I will miss you, enormously. Thank you for being a great teacher and friend.
We love you. Stay encouraged. ❤️
blm
(114,583 posts)🫶🏽
niyad
(131,923 posts)multigraincracker
(37,482 posts)A a very strong heart, but like me. Cant count. Have a pace maker do it can keep up with me.
I figure longevity is like diarrhea, runs in your genes. Have to subtract a couple for life style. But both were miserable after 85 and lived another 6.
Figure Im past my best if used by date.
Ive been the luckiest man in the world. Half of it good luck and half of it bad luck
harumph
(3,219 posts)retread
(3,917 posts)health?