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mysteryowl

(8,954 posts)
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 12:32 PM Yesterday

A thought... what if the "new" detention centers all over the country being aquired are for...

the people the regime has been putting on "a list". The people he thinks are enemies.

I have read that the regime is petitioning tech companies for people's email, names, address etc. if they posted anything against immigration enforcement.

I don't think all those buildings are for immigrants, he hates anyone against him.


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A thought... what if the "new" detention centers all over the country being aquired are for... (Original Post) mysteryowl Yesterday OP
Not meant the wrong way, so don't take it that way--YA THINK? durablend Yesterday #1
They are for ENEMIES of the STATE.......Democrats KS Toronado Yesterday #50
Yes, they're for US... liberalla Yesterday #58
That's correct. SergeStorms Yesterday #65
Permanent for as long as the health if the individual holds out Norbert Yesterday #69
A psychopath a narcissist I_UndergroundPanther 15 hrs ago #120
"Tausendjhriges Reich." Thousand-year Empire of Nazi Germany. Wednesdays 21 hrs ago #102
Good thing.... cannabis_flower 23 hrs ago #92
I saw a video of a woman recording ICE and one of the thugs came up to her, mysteryowl Yesterday #2
At some point, they will declare the "immigrant problem" solved and they will move on to "domestic terrorists". Midnight Writer Yesterday #3
Some point soon. IrishAfricanAmerican Yesterday #66
They are already making their lists. It is in progress. Midnight Writer Yesterday #68
they won't wait justsomeguy01 5 hrs ago #129
Those prisons are for us. 1WorldHope Yesterday #4
They are not prisons, gab13by13 Yesterday #18
In Some prisons people have rights, but I haven't heard of very many satisfied customers. 1WorldHope 23 hrs ago #88
Like german concentration camps? Mosby 23 hrs ago #93
They will soon run out of "low hanging fruit" after that it's anyone's guess who will end up in those corporate gulags. Klarkashton Yesterday #5
Big Prison otchmoson Yesterday #26
For-profit prisons are evil, for exactly this reason (n/m) Soul_of_Wit Yesterday #38
I think this is the 25th straight year Dreamer Tatum Yesterday #6
This is different and includes people protesting in the streets, etc. mysteryowl Yesterday #8
It's always been different Dreamer Tatum Yesterday #11
That is reasuring. I hope you are right. mysteryowl Yesterday #12
We need to do more than hope MadameButterfly Yesterday #67
Of course! mysteryowl 17 hrs ago #117
Thanks for these comments! ShazzieB Yesterday #60
I think you are right. There are simply too many of us. NH Ethylene Yesterday #61
He can't get all of us MadameButterfly Yesterday #70
A Modern Military Fully Turned Against a Population ForeGoneLegsBirne 22 hrs ago #101
Also Peter Thiel and Elon vapor2 20 hrs ago #106
Too Many of Us 2na fisherman 19 hrs ago #108
Said the Jews in 1935 Berlin. CanonRay Yesterday #81
I agree it's unlikely, at least in the numbers that it would take to minimize the opposition. They'd have to lock up LymphocyteLover Yesterday #84
But now, there are actual camps that will be ready and waiting. Intractable Yesterday #10
The hell it hasn't happened, gab13by13 Yesterday #21
Prove there are concentration camps first nt Dreamer Tatum Yesterday #28
Webster's definition gab13by13 Yesterday #36
I am sure there are hundreds of concentration camps all over the US Dreamer Tatum Yesterday #40
You don't have a problem with me gab13by13 Yesterday #48
I don't have a problem at all, except for the thousands murdered daily Dreamer Tatum Yesterday #52
There doesn't need to be hundreds of camps MadameButterfly Yesterday #71
It's not a quibble I ever hoped to have to make, but you're confusing concentration camps with death camps Emrys 23 hrs ago #90
What do you think these "detention centers" are? AllyCat Yesterday #56
What distinguishes a concentration camp from a prison? Norrrm 18 hrs ago #113
here ya go Be The Light 3 hrs ago #131
"prove me wrong"? SCantiGOP 23 hrs ago #97
You really think otchmoson Yesterday #27
When it does happen durablend Yesterday #33
And now the camps exist mahina Yesterday #49
in previous years they weren't actually building TBF Yesterday #53
Then what are all the warehouses for? nt Nittersing Yesterday #54
Thank goodness no one is being thrown into camps. Torchlight Yesterday #55
No one's been thrown into a camp? Torchlight Yesterday #59
Alligator Alcatraz ShazzieB Yesterday #62
I'm thinking Torchlight agrees with you MadameButterfly Yesterday #73
Oh, duh. ShazzieB Yesterday #83
People also fretted over timms139 Yesterday #63
Never before did it seem like one party was serious about ending democracy MadameButterfly Yesterday #75
Feeding $$ to the commercial real estate industry n/t leftstreet Yesterday #7
Bank on it! Traildogbob Yesterday #9
The Senate for sure cannot re-fund DHS mysteryowl Yesterday #22
Communities are standing up Traildogbob Yesterday #47
Stand-up! Fight-back! mysteryowl 17 hrs ago #118
Can they be used for crimes against humanity/the planet trials, too? OC375 Yesterday #13
Yeah, but our side won't do it that way MadameButterfly Yesterday #76
if he deportd the immigrants that leaves these valuable private sector corporate assets empty rampartd Yesterday #14
It is crucial the Senate does NOT re-fund DHS. mysteryowl Yesterday #16
The Big Ugly Death Bill already funded ICE gab13by13 Yesterday #25
I am aware. mysteryowl Yesterday #29
Maybe in time for Nov elections? ICE Nazis rounding up "suspicious" voters say they are working off FBI tips yaesu Yesterday #15
Vote early by mail, for sure! mysteryowl Yesterday #17
I'm voting early in person MadameButterfly Yesterday #78
Yes, I think it will be different in each state and city. mysteryowl 17 hrs ago #116
Good to know this MadameButterfly 7 hrs ago #126
We need a new name rather than "detention center" as that's not what flvegan Yesterday #19
True mysteryowl Yesterday #20
Why can't they be called concentration camps gab13by13 Yesterday #31
I didn't say they couldn't flvegan Yesterday #46
We are assuming these will be different from those in Nazi Germany MadameButterfly Yesterday #85
See #36 MadameButterfly Yesterday #79
Citizens are not off-limits anymore. DHS and ICE don't care about the law dalton99a Yesterday #23
They are creating a lot of empty cots, waiting for warm bodies Torchlight Yesterday #24
Cots would be an improvement. TommyT139 Yesterday #77
I gotta hope that the next administration fixes up these places for our homeless or people waiting for their papers Deuxcents Yesterday #30
They are concentration camps. This all must end NOW. usonian Yesterday #32
I'm sure we too will have Peace for Our Time. Multichromatic 21 hrs ago #103
Of course they are xuplate Yesterday #34
They assume Americans are going to camps like sheep? orangecrush Yesterday #35
How many Americans are already in those camps? gab13by13 Yesterday #39
I keep my Glock and 12-gauge shotgun by the front door. MuirHero 23 hrs ago #89
I don't own any guns orangecrush 22 hrs ago #99
I can't shoot my way out of a paper bag. I_UndergroundPanther 15 hrs ago #122
Every accusation is a confession Soul_of_Wit Yesterday #37
This maladministration's answer to the Soviet-era gulag archipelagos that Solzhenitsyn wrote about. Texin Yesterday #41
Thats why I always Junipercity Yesterday #42
Forget the toothbrush and spare set of underwear. MuirHero 23 hrs ago #91
Well, yea. That works too. Junipercity 19 hrs ago #107
Human Rights Violations Justice matters. Yesterday #43
Trump calls anyone that opposes him the doc03 Yesterday #44
Well this is one proud Democrat who will not be helping to fill his concentration camps. MuirHero 23 hrs ago #94
If they wish. Junipercity Yesterday #45
It is funny and sad that I--and I am sure many others here at DU--never even considered any other possibility... Ol Janx Spirit Yesterday #51
This was being predicted, way back when Dubya was president synni Yesterday #57
Can we just call them Concentration Camps ? dem4decades Yesterday #64
Not just yes but hell yes! MuirHero 23 hrs ago #95
I've been saying that for a while now. Too many facilities; too much capacity for anything else. patphil Yesterday #72
Defcon 2 BidenRocks Yesterday #74
Absolutely! MuirHero 23 hrs ago #96
The "Tea Party" was complaining about Obama building "FEMA Concentration Camps".. hmmmm LiberalArkie Yesterday #80
We have their pictures! BidenRocks 21 hrs ago #104
Authoritarianism 101... Wounded Bear Yesterday #82
Not needed for people who will be quickly deported V850i Yesterday #86
That's exactly... 2naSalit 23 hrs ago #87
Or they are for people criticizing ICE. Autumn 23 hrs ago #98
He's doing everything that Hitler did. Blue Full Moon 22 hrs ago #100
1939 revisited. Joinfortmill 21 hrs ago #105
Nick Fuentes advocates Gulags(detention centers) for women Sane1 19 hrs ago #109
Fuentes kiss my ass I_UndergroundPanther 15 hrs ago #123
We've been saying that for months. James48 19 hrs ago #110
in 2029, what can those structure be turned into? SleeplessinSoCal 19 hrs ago #111
That's exactly what they're for. Oneironaut 18 hrs ago #112
I think so too. mysteryowl 17 hrs ago #115
What if? The only rational thing to think given everything KPN 17 hrs ago #114
If the definition of, "Concentration Camp," includes people who are political prisoners, Bayard 16 hrs ago #119
Well said mysteryowl 15 hrs ago #121
Obviously. quakerboy 11 hrs ago #124
not "ifs" about it. nt Javaman 8 hrs ago #125
They are future death camps JustAnotherGen 6 hrs ago #127
In case you wonder why they're building all these Data Centers.... JohnnyRingo 5 hrs ago #128
They are concentration camps and moniss 3 hrs ago #130

durablend

(9,101 posts)
1. Not meant the wrong way, so don't take it that way--YA THINK?
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 12:35 PM
Yesterday

They need "storage" for all those people being the mean nasty social media posts that they're trying to get information about.

SergeStorms

(20,252 posts)
65. That's correct.
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 02:51 PM
Yesterday

The facilities they're building are meant to be permanent, not temporary.

The MAGA reich intends to continue for hundreds of years. 🤔 If I remember correctly there was another group almost a century ago which had the same goal in mind. 🤔

Don't remind me of their name, it'll come to me sooner or later. 😉

Norbert

(7,671 posts)
69. Permanent for as long as the health if the individual holds out
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 03:09 PM
Yesterday

I'm saying not very long.

Not trying to scare anyone, but we have the head of the DHS killing a puppy with no remorse and her boss raping barely teen girls and murdering citizens & people in boats.

I_UndergroundPanther

(13,358 posts)
120. A psychopath a narcissist
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 12:21 AM
15 hrs ago

Trump is surrounded by psychopaths narcissists addicts and pedos.

Wednesdays

(22,029 posts)
102. "Tausendjhriges Reich." Thousand-year Empire of Nazi Germany.
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 06:12 PM
21 hrs ago

That lasted twelve years.

cannabis_flower

(3,925 posts)
92. Good thing....
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 04:50 PM
23 hrs ago

I’m living in Colombia now. Can’t afford and feel safer here in Armenia, Colombia.

mysteryowl

(8,954 posts)
2. I saw a video of a woman recording ICE and one of the thugs came up to her,
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 12:36 PM
Yesterday

took a closeup picture of her face. He then said something like you are now on the list.

We later heard she is unable to fly out of the country, they have her labeled as something nefarious.

Midnight Writer

(25,224 posts)
3. At some point, they will declare the "immigrant problem" solved and they will move on to "domestic terrorists".
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 12:39 PM
Yesterday

A "domestic terrorist" will be anyone who criticizes, votes against, or shows insufficient enthusiasm for the regime.

You don't spend billions building a secret police force and dozens of mass detention camps for a "one-off" purpose.

Like many institutions, ICE will experience "mission creep", transforming itself to suit the little dictator's Whim 'O the Day.

Midnight Writer

(25,224 posts)
68. They are already making their lists. It is in progress.
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 03:01 PM
Yesterday

It's their "supply-side" theory applied to prisons. Build the product first, then invent a demand for it.

justsomeguy01

(42 posts)
129. they won't wait
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 10:51 AM
5 hrs ago

No reason to wait for one "enemy" to be eliminated before adding others.
Fascists often have multiple enemies at once.
After all, the Nazis went after Jews, Romani, intellectuals, gays, etc - all at once.
Trump has targeted many different groups (probably 80% of US residents) in his speeches/hate rallies.
If you are on this site, the bell tolls for thee.

gab13by13

(31,755 posts)
18. They are not prisons,
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 01:13 PM
Yesterday

Prisoners have rights, people get to visit and inspect prisons, they are concentration camps.

1WorldHope

(1,943 posts)
88. In Some prisons people have rights, but I haven't heard of very many satisfied customers.
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 04:28 PM
23 hrs ago

And since krasnik is copying Russia's way of dealing with humans in general I don't think prisoners have any rights in Russia. Then why would Donald Trump want anybody to have rights here?

Klarkashton

(5,050 posts)
5. They will soon run out of "low hanging fruit" after that it's anyone's guess who will end up in those corporate gulags.
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 12:40 PM
Yesterday

otchmoson

(308 posts)
26. Big Prison
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 01:21 PM
Yesterday

has to pay they execs & shareholders & political puppets . . . so fill 'er up!

Dreamer Tatum

(10,993 posts)
6. I think this is the 25th straight year
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 12:42 PM
Yesterday

that DUers have fretted that we will be thrown into camps. Still hasn't happened.

mysteryowl

(8,954 posts)
8. This is different and includes people protesting in the streets, etc.
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 12:44 PM
Yesterday

The top leadership is different. No other president has done and said the horrible things we hear about and see every day.

This is different.

MadameButterfly

(3,907 posts)
67. We need to do more than hope
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 02:53 PM
Yesterday

We need to make sure it doesn't happen. And the fight needs to be now, not wait until they widen the net.

ShazzieB

(22,384 posts)
60. Thanks for these comments!
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 02:29 PM
Yesterday

I was on the verge pf panic as I scrolled through the comments, until I came to yours. Thanks for helping me stay grounded!

NH Ethylene

(31,304 posts)
61. I think you are right. There are simply too many of us.
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 02:32 PM
Yesterday

However, this year IS different - way different than anything that has come before in this country.

If Trump et al could wave a wand and have all Dems vanish in some way, he would do it. Instead he seeks to keep us afraid and obedient.

MadameButterfly

(3,907 posts)
70. He can't get all of us
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 03:12 PM
Yesterday

but he can get some of us.

We can't just wait and hope. Trump needs autocracy to stay out of jail. He has a personality disorder that cannot help but escalate and is incapable of compassion or reason.

But he wasn't ready for Minnesota. We all have to be Minnesota. We all have to be ready to step up.
It will depend on what the people, military, police, and courts do.
And whether we can win over the handful of Republicans we need at every level, because Trump can't do this by himself.

101. A Modern Military Fully Turned Against a Population
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 05:43 PM
22 hrs ago

CAN get as many of us that would be able to neutralize any organized opposition. It is hard to conceive that an overwhelming proportion of the military would go along willingly but even medieval armies were not stopped by ad hoc attacks by civilians.

The U.S. has a large well armed militant stripe of civilians hostile to its government and social regulation. I quote the journalist E.R. Shipp writing about militias around the time of McVeigh "We underestimate them at our own peril." I'm not saying they are an existential threat or could do overwhelming damage but even a disorganized flameout could take more lives and disrupt things more seriously and longer than any of us would be able to easily dismiss.

2na fisherman

(287 posts)
108. Too Many of Us
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 08:24 PM
19 hrs ago

And thanks to the second amendment, so many are armed. Plus this country is so geographically diverse and too big to subdue en masse. As soon as we notice hundreds of protesting citizens are being rounded up by goons as "domestic terrorists" and put into camps, others will begin to resist and many will choose to die on their feet fighting them rather than be slaughtered like cattle in the camps. They can't kill us all and they don't have the numbers or the sustained fascist ideology to outlast a protracted modern civil war fought for freedom guerilla style in urban and rural settings using low-tech weapons like drones and other improvised tools used to fight them. And during such a conflict, some democratic allies of the US may not sit idly by and not support the resistance. Plus the authoritarian regime may be attacked by other outside adversaries at their greatest time of weakness. And such a conflict will have ruinous effects on economies, both at home and abroad. Is this scenario perhaps too hyperbolic? Maybe, but if this scenario is too bad for business, it may not happen because the wealthy might not profit from it and they may seek to preserve markets by taking steps to avoid such a revolutionary conflict before it starts. And their money that first fueled Trumpistan will instead be spent to depose him.

LymphocyteLover

(9,618 posts)
84. I agree it's unlikely, at least in the numbers that it would take to minimize the opposition. They'd have to lock up
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 03:42 PM
Yesterday

millions of us to affect the elections and at the same time it would backfire massively, even more than what we see now, IMO.

But they could still make life hell for millions of us (even more than now) by locking us in camps.

gab13by13

(31,755 posts)
21. The hell it hasn't happened,
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 01:16 PM
Yesterday

I say there are American citizens in those camps, prove me wrong. No one can inspect those concentration camps.

Krasnov also said he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and nothing would be done about it. He openly killed Good and Pretti and nothing is being done about it, the Feds won't even share the evidence with the local police.

I say they are killing people inside these concentration camps, prove me wrong.

gab13by13

(31,755 posts)
36. Webster's definition
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 01:26 PM
Yesterday

: a place where large numbers of people (such as prisoners of war, political prisoners, refugees, or the members of an ethnic or religious minority) are detained or confined under armed guard

Give me a hard one.

Dreamer Tatum

(10,993 posts)
40. I am sure there are hundreds of concentration camps all over the US
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 01:30 PM
Yesterday

where people are murdered by the thousands daily.

You convinced me.

gab13by13

(31,755 posts)
48. You don't have a problem with me
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 01:41 PM
Yesterday

you have a problem with Webster. You are using a narrow definition of concentration camp.

Dreamer Tatum

(10,993 posts)
52. I don't have a problem at all, except for the thousands murdered daily
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 01:51 PM
Yesterday

if not hourly. I was unaware.

MadameButterfly

(3,907 posts)
71. There doesn't need to be hundreds of camps
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 03:17 PM
Yesterday

or thousands murdered for this to be a problem

There just needs to be some. Or condidtions that could be considered unhealthy or even torture.
Or the possibility of any of the above which we cannot investigate.

i'm not really sure what your objection is to our concerns.

Emrys

(8,994 posts)
90. It's not a quibble I ever hoped to have to make, but you're confusing concentration camps with death camps
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 04:42 PM
23 hrs ago

Look up the definitions.

Deaths might occur in concentration camps as a result of mistreatment, whereas the purpose of death camps was specifically to murder prisoners.

AllyCat

(18,686 posts)
56. What do you think these "detention centers" are?
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 02:16 PM
Yesterday

People are completely unaccounted for. They have no charges, can’t meet with attorneys, can’t talk to their families.

Just because there aren’t gas chambers and ovens (although we don’t actually know if there are or aren’t) doesn’t mean they aren’t concentration camps.

Someone else provided a definition. What is your definition of a concentration camp? How is that different from what these mass incarceration sites appear to be?

Norrrm

(4,507 posts)
113. What distinguishes a concentration camp from a prison?
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 10:07 PM
18 hrs ago

What distinguishes a concentration camp from a prison?


SCantiGOP

(14,688 posts)
97. "prove me wrong"?
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 04:57 PM
23 hrs ago

No. If you want to make wild, unsupported claims, you have to prove it.
Otherwise: “Space lasers stole the 2020 election, prove me wrong.”

durablend

(9,101 posts)
33. When it does happen
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 01:25 PM
Yesterday

They'll be all like "WELL MAYBE YOU SHOULD'VE COMPLIED TO BEGIN WITH!"

TBF

(36,122 posts)
53. in previous years they weren't actually building
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 01:55 PM
Yesterday

the concentration camps. wake up, dreamer.

MadameButterfly

(3,907 posts)
73. I'm thinking Torchlight agrees with you
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 03:21 PM
Yesterday

Last edited Tue Feb 17, 2026, 08:33 AM - Edit history (1)

Hard in these crazy times when sarcasm is not so easy to detect

timms139

(520 posts)
63. People also fretted over
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 02:34 PM
Yesterday

Republicans wanting one party rule and now they have tried that .

MadameButterfly

(3,907 posts)
75. Never before did it seem like one party was serious about ending democracy
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 03:23 PM
Yesterday

though I think some of us were being naive until Trump came along.
Instead of worrying too much now, I think we weren't worrying enough before

Traildogbob

(12,817 posts)
47. Communities are standing up
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 01:41 PM
Yesterday

I hope they prevail. I lived through the county having to relocate an existing land fill that reached its capacity.
But boy did communities rage, and demand not in my backyard. Ultimate found one waaaay out in the country. 30 years ago, but go to a local dumpster center any day and see the mass of one days trash, at one center, that battle may return some day, not so distantly,
“Not my backyard”was a big political message then.
Maybe again, Nationally for Natzeeeee camps of torcher. WWJD?

OC375

(573 posts)
13. Can they be used for crimes against humanity/the planet trials, too?
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 12:58 PM
Yesterday

Axe swings both ways, as always. Only time and perspective are needed to change everything.

rampartd

(4,362 posts)
14. if he deportd the immigrants that leaves these valuable private sector corporate assets empty
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 01:02 PM
Yesterday

no oligarch will abide that.

the prisons are for us. and MUST be destroyed.

mysteryowl

(8,954 posts)
16. It is crucial the Senate does NOT re-fund DHS.
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 01:11 PM
Yesterday

Separate out TSA and FEMA and fund them only.

This may be our only way to stop it. Not fund it.

mysteryowl

(8,954 posts)
29. I am aware.
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 01:23 PM
Yesterday

I am assuming you know there is a partial gov. shutdown to change how DHS operates.
It needs to be expanded with understanding of what else they might do.

yaesu

(9,157 posts)
15. Maybe in time for Nov elections? ICE Nazis rounding up "suspicious" voters say they are working off FBI tips
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 01:10 PM
Yesterday

Anything is possible in Nazi ruled USA.

MadameButterfly

(3,907 posts)
78. I'm voting early in person
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 03:30 PM
Yesterday

They are trying to make it harder by mail. They won't be going by the postmark. Now all that have to do is mess up the mail for a few weeks. i want to see my ballot arrive in the right place. I'm hoping they can't mess up in-person voting for that whole period of time. But I'm prepared to put in the time if they do. They won't be able to hold me off for 2 weeks.

Of course I'm not a person of color. My strategy might be different then.

mysteryowl

(8,954 posts)
116. Yes, I think it will be different in each state and city.
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 10:52 PM
17 hrs ago

In my state, we can check the Sec of State website to verify our ballet had been received and counted.

flvegan

(66,052 posts)
19. We need a new name rather than "detention center" as that's not what
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 01:13 PM
Yesterday

these seem to be. I don't know that "concentration camp" is appropriate here, considering. But "detention center" sounds too polished, too humane, both of which these aren't.

gab13by13

(31,755 posts)
31. Why can't they be called concentration camps
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 01:24 PM
Yesterday

Webster;

: a place where large numbers of people (such as prisoners of war, political prisoners, refugees, or the members of an ethnic or religious minority) are detained or confined under armed guard

flvegan

(66,052 posts)
46. I didn't say they couldn't
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 01:36 PM
Yesterday

and I realize the definition. My point was the appropriateness of today's use versus any objection due to possible differences in historic use. Maybe "modern day concentration camp" is a good term to delineate from past and current.

MadameButterfly

(3,907 posts)
85. We are assuming these will be different from those in Nazi Germany
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 03:42 PM
Yesterday

but history hasn't played out on this. So far there is a measles and a tuberculosis outbreak in at least 2 of the camps. Trump is not yet dictator but he is trying to be. Nothing is proceeding as he originally promised (removing only the worst of the worst criminals).

When you remove protections and oversight, abuse happens. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
We need to have our eyes open.

MadameButterfly

(3,907 posts)
79. See #36
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 03:34 PM
Yesterday

According to Merriam-Webster, these are cocentration camps.
No Hitler or gas ovens required. But let's not kid ourselves, enough people will die that we won't be making these distinctions in the future. If we prevail to tell the story.

Torchlight

(6,591 posts)
24. They are creating a lot of empty cots, waiting for warm bodies
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 01:19 PM
Yesterday

seems short-sighted (at best) to dismiss them as simply immigrant detainment centers. But, the people who instruct us they alone live a reality-based world also tell me that's all they'll be used for.

Deuxcents

(26,199 posts)
30. I gotta hope that the next administration fixes up these places for our homeless or people waiting for their papers
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 01:23 PM
Yesterday

To allow them to stay here, get a job and then assimilate into society.

xuplate

(182 posts)
34. Of course they are
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 01:26 PM
Yesterday

First you build the infrastructure, then you execute the takeover—-fascism 101.

gab13by13

(31,755 posts)
39. How many Americans are already in those camps?
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 01:28 PM
Yesterday

The Department of Homeland Security told a court Friday that it could once again ban federal lawmakers from making unannounced visits to ICE detention centers after funding restrictions passed by Congress had expired.

MuirHero

(110 posts)
89. I keep my Glock and 12-gauge shotgun by the front door.
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 04:40 PM
23 hrs ago

I live in Pennsylvania, a stand your ground state, and am heavily armed - multiple shotguns, multiple pistols and a high-powered Browning 308 rifle. If those bastards ever try to break into my house without a judicial warrant it will be the last house that those particular criminal goons ever try to break into. I will fight them to the death before I ever end up in one of their fucking concentration camps.

Also, for the record, I am a law-abiding US citizen who has never been charged with a crime and I have a concealed carry permit. Since I obey the law, no legitimate judge would ever have a reason to issue a warrant for my arrest. We have a constitutional right to protect our property and our persons and I will exercise that right to the fullest extent under the law.

If these fascists think that it is only their side who are heavily armed they are fucking stupid. They will learn that lessen if they go into Philly and pull the same shit that they pulled in Minneapolis.

Depending on how bad things get here in Pennsylvania, I will be buying an AR-15 to add to my arsenal.

orangecrush

(29,528 posts)
99. I don't own any guns
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 05:22 PM
22 hrs ago

And I'm not killing anybody.

Doesn't mean I'm going to their gulag.

I_UndergroundPanther

(13,358 posts)
122. I can't shoot my way out of a paper bag.
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 12:37 AM
15 hrs ago

That’s why I am thankful for those who can and make those decisions understanding that killing monsters does not magically turn you into a monster. Everyone has means and choices when it comes to defending you and yours and all. Some people may have to kill to save themselves someone else or the community.

Death is not the cruelest ,torture is and torture is always wrong.

Soul_of_Wit

(58 posts)
37. Every accusation is a confession
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 01:26 PM
Yesterday

Remember FEMA camps? They only accuse the left of doing things that they would eagerly do.

Texin

(2,844 posts)
41. This maladministration's answer to the Soviet-era gulag archipelagos that Solzhenitsyn wrote about.
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 01:32 PM
Yesterday

MuirHero

(110 posts)
91. Forget the toothbrush and spare set of underwear.
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 04:49 PM
23 hrs ago

For me it's more like a Glock and a high-powered rifle. The Nazis better stay the hell off of my property.

Justice matters.

(9,582 posts)
43. Human Rights Violations
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 01:33 PM
Yesterday

Packed shoulder to shoulder with one toilet seat for a hundred detainees without due process.

And they have the gall to accuse China of Human Rights Violations?

It's also the way the Putin regime works against protesters in Russia...

MuirHero

(110 posts)
94. Well this is one proud Democrat who will not be helping to fill his concentration camps.
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 04:52 PM
23 hrs ago

Junipercity

(100 posts)
45. If they wish.
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 01:36 PM
Yesterday

But they should know I'm a real pain in the ass. Very expensive, and known to be detrimental to the guards morale.

Ol Janx Spirit

(860 posts)
51. It is funny and sad that I--and I am sure many others here at DU--never even considered any other possibility...
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 01:50 PM
Yesterday

..than that they are being prepared for the "enemies of the state"; nor that the anti-immigrant campaign rhetoric was ever anything less than a cover story for the real endgame of eliminating all opposition.

But that's just the basic playbook of authoritarianism.

However, the purchasing of actual real estate to do the housing is starting to hit far too close to home.

synni

(723 posts)
57. This was being predicted, way back when Dubya was president
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 02:19 PM
Yesterday

It's been a long time dream of conservatives, to imprison anyone who opposes them.

patphil

(8,880 posts)
72. I've been saying that for a while now. Too many facilities; too much capacity for anything else.
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 03:17 PM
Yesterday

But, if we manage to take back the government over the next two elections, we can use a couple of them for ICE and Border Patrol agents, plus the people who directed their criminal behavior.
And, people who facilitated Trump's whole reign of terror and destruction.

LiberalArkie

(19,544 posts)
80. The "Tea Party" was complaining about Obama building "FEMA Concentration Camps".. hmmmm
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 03:34 PM
Yesterday

Always projection with them... If only we had listened.

BidenRocks

(3,006 posts)
104. We have their pictures!
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 06:16 PM
21 hrs ago

Let's track them down and make them accountable!
I want the old lady with a Purple Heart band aid on her chin.
Just WTF lady! You won! How's your life?
Shitty and full of disease I hope!

Wounded Bear

(64,052 posts)
82. Authoritarianism 101...
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 03:35 PM
Yesterday

Round up the opposition and incarcerate them.

While the Holocaust rightly gets a lot of ink/pixels as one of the most heinous acts in human history, some of the first residents of the camps were journalists and opposition leaders, including politicians. Not death camps, of course, that came later. But the first concentration camps were for opposition leaders.

V850i

(124 posts)
86. Not needed for people who will be quickly deported
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 04:09 PM
Yesterday

So whom are these large permanent “detention centers” for? The enemy within?

2naSalit

(101,362 posts)
87. That's exactly...
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 04:25 PM
23 hrs ago

Who/what they are for... they can't deport us to another country so they have to lock everybody up here.

I_UndergroundPanther

(13,358 posts)
123. Fuentes kiss my ass
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 12:48 AM
15 hrs ago

Ain’t going to no gulag. I’m not a woman or a man. Whatcha gonna do you insecure man baby who is as smart as a cubed bowling ball.100% psychopath loser.

SleeplessinSoCal

(10,381 posts)
111. in 2029, what can those structure be turned into?
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 09:06 PM
19 hrs ago

Hospitals.. Schools... Cultural Centers....

Oneironaut

(6,256 posts)
112. That's exactly what they're for.
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 09:20 PM
18 hrs ago

Trump is building a surveillance state with the help of Palantir and big tech, where, all dissent will be squashed, and, the primary purpose of social media is to push state propaganda.

KPN

(17,233 posts)
114. What if? The only rational thing to think given everything
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 10:47 PM
17 hrs ago

we’ve seen is they are. Why would we trust they're not?

Bayard

(29,093 posts)
119. If the definition of, "Concentration Camp," includes people who are political prisoners,
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 11:30 PM
16 hrs ago

I would say that all of trump immigrant warehouses are full of political prisoners. Its all about political theater for MAGAts, and what he promised them in his campaigning.

I have no doubt the situation could devolve into Democrats being political prisoners, especially for those who are already on his Enemies List. Think of the people he's already tried to prosecute.

Anyone who says, it can't happen here, is not paying attention. We have never, even remotely, been close to where we are now.

JohnnyRingo

(20,689 posts)
128. In case you wonder why they're building all these Data Centers....
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 10:34 AM
5 hrs ago

... They are giant memory banks, able to start a file on every person in the country. Every keystroke, text message, and even where your car goes can be noted.

"The Department of Homeland Security is pushing Silicon Valley to strip anonymity from Americans who track or criticize Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

The agency has fired off hundreds of subpoenas demanding names, email addresses, and phone numbers tied to anti-ICE social media accounts, the New York Times reported Friday."


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moniss

(8,860 posts)
130. They are concentration camps and
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 12:22 PM
3 hrs ago

we should label them as such. You are on the right track and we need to stop calling them "detention centers/facilities". That label cleans them up too much beyond what they are. They are concentration camps to hold people indefinitely. Some have been held for many months and then shifted to other camps.

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