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This creep might think twice before he harasses another woman!!--maybe!!
A man was harassing a woman in the elevator. See what she did.♥️
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3catwoman3
(28,960 posts)Maybe he'll think twice before trying that crap again.
Why do men (obviously not all) think it is OK to do this?
BidenRocks
(2,982 posts)There's the problem.
niyad
(130,695 posts)3catwoman3
(28,960 posts)I sometimes wonder if there was not some behavioral control gene that was on the part of the Y chromosome that looks like it broke off and that why the chromosome is smaller. The male of the species seems, generally speaking, to get into so much more trouble than women.
LetMyPeopleVote
(177,148 posts)PeaceWave
(2,868 posts)MineralMan
(150,920 posts)Yeah, that woman beat the crap out of me! Arrest Her!
PeaceWave
(2,868 posts)AnotherMother4Peace
(5,083 posts)PeaceWave
(2,868 posts)Torchlight
(6,568 posts)BidenRocks
(2,982 posts)to show more restraint than ICE?
This threat is over when he is dead!
Sorry, he could get up looking to kill.
Victims are just that. If they lose their mind, fine.
They don't operate under ANY ROE.
If only E. Jean did that to chump!
Torchlight
(6,568 posts)in the body of my message.
niyad
(130,695 posts)that you were quoting because I am still seething about the entire post from which you quoted.
efhmc
(16,294 posts)MorbidButterflyTat
(4,328 posts)Seems like bro code.
Joinfortmill
(20,554 posts)GaYellowDawg
(5,082 posts)I applaud her.
niyad
(130,695 posts)acquaintance, given your posted strict and narrow "legal"standards of what a woman is alllowed to do when she is being assaulted. Your posted repeated lack of care and concern for the safety and well-being of the intended victim in that video are duly noted, as is your clearly-evidenced concern for the assaulter. In case you did not notice, even after she struck him, he kept coming at her. She did not know if he was armed, what he was capable of doing, what he intended.
GOOD FOR HER!!! Since our laws are so fucking patriarchal, and rapists and rape protectors are now blatantly in charge, it seems like the only way we can protect ourselves is to be able to beat the crap out of anyone intent on harm. Apologists be damned.
SheltieLover
(78,584 posts)BattleRow
(2,162 posts)niyad
(130,695 posts)Ilsa
(64,066 posts)someone will do better in the next 74 years, but I doubt it.
He didn't simply harass her, he assaulted her by trying to grab her breast.
I wish someone had shown "El Jefe" in the WH who was boss 60 years ago.
niyad
(130,695 posts)MineralMan
(150,920 posts)I don't much care if she gave him a little more to think about. She left unharmed. When you're being attacked by someone who is bigger and stronger than you are, take the extra step to give you more time to escape.
I'm not a fighter. However, my father gave me some advice when I was a teenager. He said, "If some stranger physically attacks you, assume he's trying to kill you. Immobilize and stop him as quickly and effectively as you can. Then get the hell away from him."
I don't know who taught you about situations like she was in. She did the right thing for her safety. He'll survive.
liberalgunwilltravel
(1,136 posts)And if she had a firearm with a 10-shot capacity and shot him 10 times, when asked by police why she shot him 10 times, the correct answer is, "I only had 10 bullets."
The bottom line is, he started it. She finished it. And in finishing it the way she did, she may have prevented other women from the same type of attack.
MineralMan
(150,920 posts)In the real world, some strange man physically groping you in an elevator is a very dangerous assault if you are a woman. You have no idea what his intentions might be. Women, in general, are at a physical disadvantage in situations like that. Fortunately, she has apparently had some training in self defense. She used it to prevent any further assault and then exited the elevator ASAP.
She immobilized him and went one step further to make sure he could not attack her again. Perfectly justified in the circumstances. She escapes unharmed and he gets an object lesson through learning that not all women are helpless and weak. Perhaps, as you suggest, he will learn from this. I doubt it, though. Instead, he'll probably use more immediate force the next time.
I'm surprised that anyone is attempting to blame her for her actions. Screw that!
kacekwl
(9,011 posts)assault so to try again the gloves come off and being in a closed space nothing is overkill until that door opens and you're gone.
synni
(717 posts)Unless she is very physically fit and trained in martial arts, she is simply not capable of incapacitating a man with a single kick. The fact that he was still standing indicates that he was still a threat. The only way she would know that he was no longer a threat would be if he hit the floor. She left as soon as he did.
ms liberty
(11,088 posts)Smack him hard in the face, kick him in the crotch and a quick, sharp knee to the head.
You disable and injure the attacker as much as possible in order to give yourself a chance to escape.
That woman was being sexualky assaulted in a small enclosed space. There was no being nice. There was survival or assault. She did exactly what she needed to do.
Sanity Claws
(22,369 posts)She was still stuck in a closed space with him and had to disable him. She left as soon as the door opened.
PeaceWave
(2,868 posts)Torchlight
(6,568 posts)And that she had zero opportunity to retreat.
CrispyQ
(40,830 posts)That's what I'd argue as an attorney, & as a juror, I'd buy it, even if the judge said not to. Just sayin'. It was clear what his intent was & that he wasn't going to take her NO.
bluestarone
(21,701 posts)MineralMan
(150,920 posts)You're sounding a little strange about this situation. Why do you hold that woman who got groped in an elevator to such a standard?
chia
(2,775 posts)Torchlight
(6,568 posts)Last edited Fri Feb 13, 2026, 01:17 PM - Edit history (1)
Consequences are a tough thing for a lot of people to stand up to... he certainly couldn't.
mcar
(45,830 posts)I hope she broke his tiny dick and head.
The Blue Flower
(6,420 posts)He just wasn't going to get the point. Good for her. Leaving him incapacitated on the floor was her only recourse.
Seinan Sensei
(1,459 posts)irisblue
(37,131 posts)IbogaProject
(5,715 posts)She was trapped with him and we don't know what he said during any of it.
Soul_of_Wit
(50 posts)He laid hands on her. They were in a confined space. If he was still capable of moving, then he deserved every blow. She retreated when she was able to do so. Defending oneself is a winner with juries almost every time.
Seinan Sensei
(1,459 posts)Her response to him would be the bare minimum I would wish for
thought crime
(1,382 posts)His second attempt was worse. Good for her.
leftstreet
(39,620 posts)Audiences will tell you how often they yell at the heroine on the screen,
"No, no, don't just hit him and run away! He'll get back up!! Finish the fucker off"
PeaceWave
(2,868 posts)leftstreet
(39,620 posts)Debating a responsible level of aggression from a woman trapped in an elevator with a man who's put his hands on her
I mean
niyad
(130,695 posts)PeaceWave
(2,868 posts)Torchlight
(6,568 posts)How is that defined, and does this apply to all circumstances or simply this one?
niyad
(130,695 posts)Aristus
(71,910 posts)But as long as a women is in an enclosed space with an aggressor, anything and everything is permissible for her to ensure her own safety. If a guy doesn't want to sustain massive bodily injury from a woman defending herself, he can make the rather easy choice to leave her alone, and not attack her.
I really thought it was less complicated than you are insisting on making it.
MontanaMama
(24,671 posts)She absolutely had to disable him to the point where he didn't come back at her. If he had been able to do that, she might be dead. But thanks for mansplaining how she should have gone easy on this degenerate. Good grief.
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,328 posts)Women are not playthings for men to do with whatever they want.
If he had shown some basic decency and respect and kept his filthy hands to himself, he wouldn't have gotten his ass beat.
Simple.
leftstreet
(39,620 posts)An important distinction, thank you.
Although clearly some people see aggression rather than self-defense and can instantly change the narrative.
(You're so sharp!)
niyad
(130,695 posts)women have to contend with in defending ourselves in this culture of rapists, rapist protectors, and general woman-haters.
Tomorrow is V-Day, Ending Violence Against Women and Girls.One Billion Rising is a worldwide group trying to end this culture of woman-hating. One Billion stands for the ONE IN THREE FEMALES WORLDWIDE who will be the victim of sexual assault/violence. One female every two minutes is sexually assaulted in this country.
leftstreet
(39,620 posts)As you well know
Since so many people will keep breathing it without seeing it, your diligence and willingness to constantly expose it here is beyond valuable
SheltieLover
(78,584 posts)irisblue
(37,131 posts)Peace Wave, you are just at the bone wrong here.
cloudbase
(6,224 posts)spooky3
(38,421 posts)obamanut2012
(29,272 posts)Dear_Prudence
(1,127 posts)How would a man have reacted if another man stalked him, menaced him, and laid hands on him in an enclosed space? I believe the perp would have had a broken nose in addition to the injuries the woman inflicted. Walk a mile in HER shoes...
Random Boomer
(4,394 posts)Resoundingly disabling him (in the moment) was quite appropriate.
He approached her first and did not accept her rebuff. He then approached again and ESCALATED into assault by putting his hand on her in an enclosed space.
She neutralized him, but left him still alive. Sounds just about right to me.
spooky3
(38,421 posts)Irish_Dem
(80,462 posts)She has a right to defend herself from SA.
fujiyamasan
(1,451 posts)Apparently this wasnt even in the US.
This kind of weird shit could happen anywhere in the world to women. What I like is she didnt stand around taking it.
LuckyCharms
(22,224 posts)If she had killed him for it, she would have been justified.
I've told my wife that if she is ever in a situation like that where she can't get away, her goal is not to hurt the perpetrator, her goal is to kill him. With that mindset, her goal is to fight like she is fighting for her life, and she is not to stop until the person is unconscious. If he dies during that process, so be it. You want her to stop her self-defense when she is unsure if he could reach into his waistband at pull out a gun?
Her goal is to eliminate the threat to her. How is that woman supposed to know that the man is not armed with a gun or a knife?
He's lucky she didn't kill him.
You are expecting her to make a split second decision not to try to kill him when she is literally trapped? Unable to run? No help at all possible? She presumably is not an armed officer of the law. She's a WOMAN TRAPPED IN A CLOSED BOX WITH A MAN WHO PHYSICALLY ASSAULTED HER.
Can you see a jury convicting her?
I can't.
PeaceWave
(2,868 posts)I get the passion around the subject. But, folks need to understand that there is such a thing as taking a response too far.
LuckyCharms
(22,224 posts)PeaceWave
(2,868 posts)will change that fact. Nothing in this video warranted anyone taking anyone else's life. Now, how much physical harm short of death was warranted is subject to debate and is a roll of the dice that anyone put in a similar situation must make. The standard though - at least here in the U.S. - is that the forced used to defend yourself must be proportionate, as determined by a reasonable person.
Torchlight
(6,568 posts)LuckyCharms
(22,224 posts)The goal is to eliminate a perceived threat.
The first and best option is to put distance between yourself and the threat.
That is not possible in an elevator, is it? Where are you going to run to in an elevator? To the other corner?
Are you going to scream for help in an elevator, when seconds matter?
How are you certain that a person who you are TRAPPED IN AN ELEVATOR WITH, WHO TRIED TO GRAB YOUR BREAST AND TOUCHED YOU TWICE, is not trying to kill you?
Even if this was staged, my point is that the woman had a split second to make a decision.
She stopped when she was able to escape. If the door was not able to be opened, she should have continued until he was dead, or old cold with certainty.
What if that elevator had another 40 floors to travel until the door was able to be opened? Still think she went too far?
GoCubsGo
(34,779 posts)Give me a fucking break.
MontanaMama
(24,671 posts)If she hadn't disabled him, he wouldn't have stopped his assault and then where would she be? Regardless, she gets blamed for doing too much or not doing enough. He's fortunate to be alive.
Shambala
(275 posts)and kept beating him.
dalton99a
(92,974 posts)MineralMan
(150,920 posts)MLAA
(19,692 posts)Soul_of_Wit
(50 posts)...makes it likely that the incident was reported (or was seen live by security.)
MineralMan
(150,920 posts)That's what this video looked like.
1WorldHope
(1,930 posts)Torchlight
(6,568 posts)SheltieLover
(78,584 posts)Joinfortmill
(20,554 posts)Ping Tung
(4,262 posts)He didn't understand it the first time he grabbed her.
betsuni
(28,908 posts)irisblue
(37,131 posts)From google
Situational awareness (SA) is the ability to perceive, understand, and predict environmental elements and events to make informed safety decisions. It involves monitoring surroundings to identify, analyze, and react to potential risks or hazards before they occur. Key components include perception (gathering data), comprehension (understanding meaning), and projection (anticipating future states).
niyad
(130,695 posts)out and about. And I explained about SA. She had never heard of the concept. To my relief, she stopped using her headphones on her daily runs.
fujiyamasan
(1,451 posts)What a fucking creep and weirdo.
Vinca
(53,600 posts)niyad
(130,695 posts)Last edited Fri Feb 13, 2026, 02:22 PM - Edit history (1)
having been), or real, but fucking assaulters need to understand that it is just possible that their intended victim just might be capable of kicking the crap out of them.
AND WE SHOULD BE TEACHING ALL FEMALES FROM EARLY CHILDHOOD ON TO BE ABLE TO DO EXACTLY THAT. At least, until the woman-haters in charge go back to physically limiting girls and women, as they have done for centuries.
Maj. Dude
(40 posts)Could be said/used if she had CCW Permit and fired at him while he was doubled over tending to his hurt (testicles) feelings.
And she got out of there limiting her time with the creep.
I'd buy her her favorite beverage and laugh with her if she felt so inclined after a situation like that.
It would her choice of course, because that's the way I was raised.
UpInArms
(54,514 posts)That creep deserves to spend some time in lockup
flvegan
(66,016 posts)1. be always aware
2. take up some form of defensive/offensive training, to then;
3. defend oneself by any means necessary, and;
4. finish your opponent and then escape as necessary
That said, if the video isn't/wasn't staged, that was quite the ass kicking. Flawless victory!
QueerDuck
(1,263 posts)... Inspirational fiction and a cautionary tale.
dickthegrouch
(4,413 posts)Where a woman being assaulted in the crowded tube car, grabbed the man's hand, rapidly raised it high in the air and asked at the top of her lungs "To whom does this belong?"
Not possible in this situation, but a possibility for more public places. I am all for people de-escalating when they can, and defending themselves when they need to.
Ritabert
(2,174 posts)Good for her.
hamsterjill
(17,223 posts)Well played!
hlthe2b
(113,280 posts)Srkdqltr
(9,568 posts)Women need to know they should not put up with stuff like this.
Men should know there will be consequences.
None of this is cute or kidding. She did the absolutely right thing.
Tasmanian Devil
(85 posts)I am not an expert at fake videos, so I asked Gemini. You can obviously choose to believe or not, but remember just how much AI slop is taking over the Internet.
https://gemini.google.com
Link to tweet
And it responded that it was likely computer generated.
Here are the key reasons why its considered "faked" or, more accurately, digital art:
1. Visual "Perfection" : The lighting, shadows, and textures in the video are often slightly too smooth or consistent compared to real-world physics. Digital artists frequently use software like Unreal Engine 5 or Blender to create these hyper-realistic scenes, which can easily fool the eye on small smartphone screens.
2. Unnatural Camera Movement: If you look closely at the "handheld" camera shake, it often feels procedurallike a digital filter applied to a steady shot rather than the organic weight and momentum of a person holding a real camera.
3. Anomalies in Fine Detail: In these types of viral "is it real?" clips, you can often spot minor glitches (artifacts) where objects intersect, or where the reflections on surfaces don't perfectly match the surrounding environment.
4. The Source: This specific video has been widely circulated by accounts that specialize in showcasing "vibe" or "dreamcore" CGI environments. These artists create these short loops specifically to trigger a "liminal space" feeling or to test how realistic their rendering engines can get.
Verdict: It is a **digital creation**. While it's an impressive technical feat of 3D modeling and rendering, it does not exist in the physical world.
MineralMan
(150,920 posts)Look up next time you're in an elevator in a public building. There's a security camera up there, and it records continuously.
Gemini is just a freaking AI talking machine. It actually knows nothing. Again, look up next time you're in an elevator. And smile, you're on video.
Liberal In Texas
(16,115 posts)or on TikTok. It's amateur TV production. By claiming it's real video they can get more clicks and more people passing it on. Like here.
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,328 posts)AI says this is AI?
PeaceWave
(2,868 posts)Simply something intended to stir up animus between the genders as we head into the primaries.
Chicagogrl1
(632 posts)Bottom line is that you have to be on guard all the time everywhere.
mjvpi
(1,909 posts)Quite the ego on that one.
bluescribbler
(2,481 posts)nt
Swede
(38,819 posts)Drop him and leave. Contact the police after.
moonshinegnomie
(3,934 posts)hard right in the balls.
Omnipresent
(7,357 posts)She kept her back to him twice.
Its safer to keep your back to an elevator wall, to see where anyone is. She allowed him to creep up behind her twice.
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,328 posts)Sure.
If she had done as you suggested, she'd have been trapped in the back corner.
Staying close to the elevator doors was smart.
misanthrope
(9,436 posts)Every move she used on him looks like those used in staged fighting for audiences and cameras.
Tasmanian Devil
(85 posts)The action looked comic-book level fake to me. My wager would be that Gemini is correct and this is computer generated. I thought it looked a lot like something I'd expect in a video game. But who knows, clickbait is everywhere.
Dem_in_Nebr.
(340 posts)Bottom line, women: this is how it's done.
I don't know whether call Ladies or Women.
