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NewHendoLib

(61,823 posts)
Wed Feb 11, 2026, 12:50 PM Feb 11

Guardian "Point of no return: a hellish 'hothouse Earth' getting closer, scientists say"

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/feb/11/point-of-no-return-hothouse-earth-global-heating-climate-tipping-points?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

The world is closer than thought to a “point of no return” after which runaway global heating cannot be stopped, scientists have said.

Continued global heating could trigger climate tipping points, leading to a cascade of further tipping points and feedback loops, they said. This would lock the world into a new and hellish “hothouse Earth” climate far worse than the 2-3C temperature rise the world is on track to reach. The climate would also be very different to the benign conditions of the past 11,000 years, during which the whole of human civilisation developed.

At just 1.3C of global heating in recent years, extreme weather is already taking lives and destroying livelihoods across the globe. At 3-4C, “the economy and society will cease to function as we know it”, scientists said last week, but a hothouse Earth would be even more fiery.

The public and politicians were largely unaware of the risk of passing the point of no return, the researchers said. The group said they were issuing their warning because while rapid and immediate cuts to fossil fuel burning were challenging, reversing course was likely to be impossible once on the path to a hothouse Earth, even if emissions were eventually slashed.

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Guardian "Point of no return: a hellish 'hothouse Earth' getting closer, scientists say" (Original Post) NewHendoLib Feb 11 OP
Politicians and billionaires know exactly what is going to happen. Irish_Dem Feb 11 #1
I believe that's why they are obsessed with immigration Johnny2X2X Feb 11 #8
In part yes. Irish_Dem Feb 11 #11
They're engaging in fantasy plans. yardwork Feb 11 #9
Yes but the very rich think they can make all their fantasies come true. Irish_Dem Feb 11 #12
Well worth the read leftstreet Feb 11 #2
Maybe it's time to start pushing this as hard as Epstein files. chowder66 Feb 11 #3
K&R chowder66 Feb 11 #4
The planet is in very, very deep trouble. La Coliniere Feb 11 #5
Electric vehicles aren't going to save us fujiyamasan Feb 12 #35
It's worse. Politicians are aware but decided to kick the can down the road. AloeVera Feb 11 #6
Most people don't vote for courageous politicians. yardwork Feb 11 #10
This is not about Trump or Biden. It's a much bigger issue. AloeVera Feb 11 #13
I don't mind our mass suicide. We deserve it. Coventina Feb 11 #7
Same here. I'm a misanthrope at this point. BigmanPigman Feb 11 #14
Totally agree biophile Feb 11 #26
Last time we were over 420 ppm CO2 our planet was 20 degrees warmer overall IbogaProject Feb 11 #15
The more I learn, the more hopeless it seems. AloeVera Feb 11 #17
That's really horrifying leftstreet Feb 11 #18
Yes! More of IbogaProject please! AloeVera Feb 11 #21
My hope is for a brief volcanic cool down IbogaProject Feb 11 #19
Thanks. Link please? AloeVera Feb 11 #22
here IbogaProject Feb 11 #24
I'm not seeing the link? leftstreet Feb 11 #23
here IbogaProject Feb 11 #25
And we'll exceed 430 ppm this year . . . and after next year, we'll never see 430 again, even in monthly readings. hatrack Feb 11 #28
Yes methane hydrates, VGNonly Feb 14 #37
Yep, approximately 3 million years ago NickB79 Feb 14 #39
But, I need to chat with a shitty AI and make my fake Tik Tok videos of celebrities twerking! LudwigPastorius Feb 11 #16
We are on the brink of trophic cascade. VGNonly Feb 11 #20
It's gonna be 55F in Minneapolis this weekend NickB79 Feb 11 #27
goldilocks died about 1985. good luck kids. pansypoo53219 Feb 11 #29
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 12 #30
And winter isn't over yet. We're now facing a new cold spell. GP6971 Feb 12 #31
Yes climate change caused by measurable increases in CO2 surfered Feb 12 #32
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 12 #33
It is ending surfered Feb 12 #34
A hotter 1-2c degree will be horrific. VGNonly Feb 14 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Feb 14 #38
Thank you for posting about this important topic senseandsensibility Feb 14 #40

Irish_Dem

(80,984 posts)
1. Politicians and billionaires know exactly what is going to happen.
Wed Feb 11, 2026, 12:57 PM
Feb 11

They are fine with it.

They made a lot of money ruining the planet and refuse to pay one penny to reverse the damage.

Johnny2X2X

(24,108 posts)
8. I believe that's why they are obsessed with immigration
Wed Feb 11, 2026, 01:30 PM
Feb 11

They see the coming calamity and know hundreds of millions of people will be looking to migrate to safer areas.

yardwork

(69,272 posts)
9. They're engaging in fantasy plans.
Wed Feb 11, 2026, 01:31 PM
Feb 11

Buying Greenland, riding rockets to Mars, building underground bunkers.

La Coliniere

(1,901 posts)
5. The planet is in very, very deep trouble.
Wed Feb 11, 2026, 01:12 PM
Feb 11

And yet most Americans have no interest in owning electric vehicles and big pickup trucks are still very much desired. Ugh

fujiyamasan

(1,622 posts)
35. Electric vehicles aren't going to save us
Thu Feb 12, 2026, 01:58 AM
Feb 12

That’s the big lie that enriched Elon Musk.

Democratic administrations are largely responsible for him getting so wealthy.

AloeVera

(4,204 posts)
6. It's worse. Politicians are aware but decided to kick the can down the road.
Wed Feb 11, 2026, 01:14 PM
Feb 11

To our descendants.

Their only concern is winning the next election. They are politicians after all, not leaders.

We need visionaries and true leaders, combined with revolutionary changes in our societal and economic structures. I don't see that happening until the really bad times start and by then it will be much too late. It seems that as a species, we are not capable of putting our descendants' lives ahead of our own. Or future gain/survival before present comfort. All we can do is watch the ice melt in sorrow and powerlessness.

Edited to add:
And we're not as smart as we think we are. Or we'd learn from ant colonies and bee hives and work together as a COLLECTIVE. But you know, COMMUNISM and FREEDOM! As I said, revolutionary changes but those would require EVOLUTIONARY changes too.

yardwork

(69,272 posts)
10. Most people don't vote for courageous politicians.
Wed Feb 11, 2026, 01:33 PM
Feb 11

They vote for liars and conmen. Or they refuse to vote for somebody they perceive as being not good enough. Either way, the lying conmen win and seize control.

So here we are.

AloeVera

(4,204 posts)
13. This is not about Trump or Biden. It's a much bigger issue.
Wed Feb 11, 2026, 01:47 PM
Feb 11

About how our political and societal systems have failed our species - because they've made "courageous politicians" an impossibility as it relates to our future survival. Even before Trump, we fell far short of what was needed to save our planet - and us.

Also about how we lack certain evolutionary qualities of collective and species survival present in even insects.

Not the place to rehash old and tired arguments or score points about the last election. But to each his own.

Coventina

(29,633 posts)
7. I don't mind our mass suicide. We deserve it.
Wed Feb 11, 2026, 01:15 PM
Feb 11

I’m just sorry for our fellow creatures and the lovely planet.

biophile

(1,383 posts)
26. Totally agree
Wed Feb 11, 2026, 11:06 PM
Feb 11

Humans deserve what they get, for the most part. The other species unfortunately will go down with us.
Bless the beasts and the children.

IbogaProject

(5,825 posts)
15. Last time we were over 420 ppm CO2 our planet was 20 degrees warmer overall
Wed Feb 11, 2026, 03:33 PM
Feb 11

And with all that Methane under the Arctic ocean poised to release in mass there is a risk of our water evaporating off the planet. This isn't life will be hard, this is extinction level serious. The last methane caused extinciton cycle killed 90-95% of all life.

AloeVera

(4,204 posts)
17. The more I learn, the more hopeless it seems.
Wed Feb 11, 2026, 04:13 PM
Feb 11

Thanks for that info. I think.

That's so bad. But I keep hearing that we can't give up, though it may seem hopeless. Not yet...

Our capacity to fool ourselves and our capacity for hope may be what doom us as much as our rapaciousness for creature comforts, gizmos and wealth.

leftstreet

(40,298 posts)
18. That's really horrifying
Wed Feb 11, 2026, 04:16 PM
Feb 11

We need more of this: people who can put these things in perspective in understandable words

IbogaProject

(5,825 posts)
19. My hope is for a brief volcanic cool down
Wed Feb 11, 2026, 04:59 PM
Feb 11

I suspect the one remaining mechanism to head the worst off might be increased vulanism. Maybe a large volcano, hopefully not Yellowstone, goes off and gives us some temporary cooling and more polar snow and ice coverage. Here is a recent link, this is by university professors under pen names due to all the climate deniers.

https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2026/02/is-ssp5-85-the-worst-case-scenario.html

hatrack

(64,759 posts)
28. And we'll exceed 430 ppm this year . . . and after next year, we'll never see 430 again, even in monthly readings.
Wed Feb 11, 2026, 11:38 PM
Feb 11

Welcome to today's episode of "Shit Getting Really Fucking Real".

VGNonly

(8,476 posts)
37. Yes methane hydrates,
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 03:33 PM
Feb 14

they form ice-like masses underwater. Cold water and low pressure keep them under check.

Methane in the atmosphere cause about 85x more damage than C02.

NickB79

(20,315 posts)
39. Yep, approximately 3 million years ago
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 06:38 PM
Feb 14

Seas were 75' higher, spruce forests like those found in Minnesota grew at the North Pole, and alligators were living in the Midwest.

LudwigPastorius

(14,615 posts)
16. But, I need to chat with a shitty AI and make my fake Tik Tok videos of celebrities twerking!
Wed Feb 11, 2026, 03:57 PM
Feb 11

We humans were a promising species, but we opted to boil our own oceans just for the LOLs.

VGNonly

(8,476 posts)
20. We are on the brink of trophic cascade.
Wed Feb 11, 2026, 05:08 PM
Feb 11

In 20 years, extreme degradations. In 50 mass extinctions, maybe 5-10% of earth's inhabitants will still be alive.

NickB79

(20,315 posts)
27. It's gonna be 55F in Minneapolis this weekend
Wed Feb 11, 2026, 11:36 PM
Feb 11

In the middle of February.

When it should be below zero.

This isn't normal.

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surfered

(13,149 posts)
32. Yes climate change caused by measurable increases in CO2
Thu Feb 12, 2026, 12:43 AM
Feb 12

Which can cause the polar vortex to wobble and move cold arctic air to non polar regions.

Response to surfered (Reply #32)

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