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bigtree

(93,688 posts)
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 02:09 PM 3 hrs ago

Republicans cooked their own goose with the Clintons testifying

Kyle Griffin @kylegriffin1 14m
Democrats now say Republicans have established a precedent when it comes to Congress' ability to subpoena and haul in past presidents and family members under threat of criminal charges — thanks to how Republicans threatened the Clintons — and they plan to use it against Trump.

"We are absolutely going to have Donald Trump testify under oath."



After Republicans push Clintons to testify on Epstein, Democrats warn they'll haul in Trump
Democrats say Republicans have set a precedent with subpoenas of an ex-president and first lady. "We will follow it ... Donald Trump, all of his kids. Everybody," Rep. Maxwell Frost said.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/republicans-push-clintons-testify-epstein-democrats-warn-haul-trump-rcna257275
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Republicans cooked their own goose with the Clintons testifying (Original Post) bigtree 3 hrs ago OP
Recommended. H2O Man 3 hrs ago #1
Constitutional Law isn't their strong suit, but it is ours MagickMuffin 2 hrs ago #8
Comer may be the dumbest Repub in Congress, and that's really saying something. FadedMullet 1 hr ago #17
Not by far Jilly_in_VA 1 hr ago #28
Comer is dumb and also willfully ignorant about Trump's blatant wrong-doing Redleg 45 min ago #35
Jim Jordan never passed the bar exam. iluvtennis 1 hr ago #21
They can't see past the next 5 minutes ToxMarz 1 hr ago #30
I always think Trump as a demented toddler ... ananda 51 min ago #32
Exactly. H2O Man 19 min ago #41
Don't tell them that Bill was more popular after the kerfuffle spanone 33 min ago #39
Right! H2O Man 22 min ago #40
But delay, Tom Delay, kick the can SCROTUS... GreenWave 3 hrs ago #2
LOCK HER U...no wait! leftstreet 3 hrs ago #3
Tomorrow he will be ranting that Bill and Hillary ran a horrific child torture center. travelingthrulife 48 min ago #33
Out of a Mexican restaurant..... SergeStorms 41 min ago #36
Well done UpInArms 3 hrs ago #4
I like that! "Jacketoff Jim Jordan". calimary 1 hr ago #31
"Jim Jacketoff"..... SergeStorms 38 min ago #37
Shows you how important I thought he was. calimary 35 min ago #38
republicons would still refuse to show up RandiFan1290 3 hrs ago #5
I don't think so ScratchCat 2 hrs ago #6
With any luck whatsoever Jilly_in_VA 1 hr ago #29
And family (I don't think Trump's going to make it to be an ex president) aeromanKC 2 hrs ago #7
Clinton Precedent gfarber 2 hrs ago #9
It will never happen, he will either be dead or in a mental facility before he ever Bev54 2 hrs ago #10
Not very good chess players C_U_L8R 2 hrs ago #11
Tic-tac-toe is the limit of their mental faculties..... lastlib 2 hrs ago #15
Ding ding malaise 2 hrs ago #12
king piggy: "I'm not worried..." Grokenstein 2 hrs ago #13
Yup yup yup. mr715 2 hrs ago #14
Let us "prey"...go to it Hil and Bill. yorkster 2 hrs ago #16
And how many years has Jim Jordan thumbed his nose at his congressional subpoena? dlk 1 hr ago #18
Comer... GiqueCee 1 hr ago #19
Do you suppose his name is really stage left 1 hr ago #26
I wouldn't be surprised... GiqueCee 1 hr ago #27
Bullshit. intheflow 1 hr ago #20
Exactly. This. n/t progressoid 1 hr ago #22
Post removed Post removed 1 hr ago #23
Wait wait wait. So a family of known law breakers is suddenly going to agree to appear from a subpoena that has no teeth progressoid 1 hr ago #24
Republicans are counting on him being 80+ Renew Deal 1 hr ago #25
Don't forget Jared. Kid Berwyn 46 min ago #34
That being said... 2naSalit 5 min ago #42

H2O Man

(78,853 posts)
1. Recommended.
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 02:12 PM
3 hrs ago

I think the Clintons played the republicans on this. I've long believed that one should always be mighty careful who they pick a fight with. The republicans have made a serious error here, and will pay a price.

MagickMuffin

(18,188 posts)
8. Constitutional Law isn't their strong suit, but it is ours
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 02:26 PM
2 hrs ago


Comer a farmer. He is ignorant of Constitutional Law. Same thing goes for Jim Jordan.


Jilly_in_VA

(14,057 posts)
28. Not by far
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 04:07 PM
1 hr ago

That dubious honor goes to Tommy Tuberville, the fool "representing" Alabama while living in FloriDUH. Just above him are Ron Johnson and Marsha Blackburn. I leave out Chuck Grassley because he's obviously got dementia. Gym Jordan is right down there too.
Comer may be the dumbest committee chair, I'll give him that anyway.

Redleg

(6,863 posts)
35. Comer is dumb and also willfully ignorant about Trump's blatant wrong-doing
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 04:32 PM
45 min ago

I wish he represented my district in KY so I could vote against him. Instead I have Thomas Massie as my rep.

iluvtennis

(21,480 posts)
21. Jim Jordan never passed the bar exam.
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 03:34 PM
1 hr ago

Jim Jordan earned a Juris Doctor (J.D.) law degree from Capital University Law School in Columbus, Ohio. While he holds this degree, which he earned in 2001, he never took the bar exam and is not a practicing attorney. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jordan

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The Clintons may be older now, but both are very astute lawyers - the lying MAGAts are no match for them.

ToxMarz

(2,793 posts)
30. They can't see past the next 5 minutes
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 04:16 PM
1 hr ago
Children often don't understand consequences because their brains are still developing, lacking the mature prefrontal cortex needed for impulse control, long-term planning, and risk assessment. Younger children, especially under age 3, cannot connect past actions to present outcomes, often living in the immediate moment. Furthermore, when children are dysregulated, stressed, or in "survival mode," their brain cannot process logic or lessons, rendering traditional consequences ineffective.

ananda

(34,579 posts)
32. I always think Trump as a demented toddler ...
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 04:26 PM
51 min ago

with no impulse control and a mean streak
a mile wide.

H2O Man

(78,853 posts)
41. Exactly.
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 04:59 PM
19 min ago

I'll take it a step further -- there is no area of law that they know better than the Clintons. None. They are wasy over their heads. I know that republicans on the committee are in close contact with the DOJ on this and related matters. But the DOJ maga are not in the Clintons' league. They really just aren't.

H2O Man

(78,853 posts)
40. Right!
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 04:56 PM
22 min ago

Either one of the Clintons is a hundred times smarter than the combined sum of every republican in the House. When I first heard the committee was calling them, I thought it was a terrible mistake on their part. Of course, I find their terrible mistakes to be a very good thing.

leftstreet

(39,437 posts)
3. LOCK HER U...no wait!
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 02:15 PM
3 hrs ago
Jake Sherman
@JakeSherman
18h
"I think it's a shame," Trump says, of the House bringing Bill and Hillary Clinton into testify.

"I always liked him," Trump says of Bill Clinton.

"She's a very capable woman," Trump on Hillary Clinton.

"I hate to see it in many ways," Trump says.



?s=20



Sure changing his tune
DURec

SergeStorms

(20,192 posts)
36. Out of a Mexican restaurant.....
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 04:36 PM
41 min ago

run by "the worst of the worst."

Yeah, Trump's "opinions" depend solely on the last person he talked to.

calimary

(89,275 posts)
31. I like that! "Jacketoff Jim Jordan".
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 04:17 PM
1 hr ago

It’s deviously perfect!

Is that an “ UpInArms Original”?

SergeStorms

(20,192 posts)
37. "Jim Jacketoff".....
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 04:40 PM
38 min ago

has been used for years now. I'm surprised you missed it, calimary. You're pretty plugged-in to DU.

ScratchCat

(2,701 posts)
6. I don't think so
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 02:20 PM
2 hrs ago

James Comer solicited two Republican-leaning law firms who both told him that the courts would not uphold the committees subpoena against the Clintons for multiple reasons.

If a future Democrat-controlled house tries this in 2029 - assuming Donald Trump is even alive then - the courts will just tell the House what they would have told Comer.

Donald Trump will never sit in front of Congress under oath.

Jilly_in_VA

(14,057 posts)
29. With any luck whatsoever
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 04:09 PM
1 hr ago

A few current sitting justices will either be dead, retired, or better yet, impeached. Looking at YOU, Thomas and Alito!

aeromanKC

(3,850 posts)
7. And family (I don't think Trump's going to make it to be an ex president)
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 02:23 PM
2 hrs ago

But the family will!!

gfarber

(228 posts)
9. Clinton Precedent
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 02:40 PM
2 hrs ago


There once was a hearing so rough,
Where Congress cried, “Enough is enough!”
“You dragged Bill through the mud,
So we’ll return the good thud—
Now Trump gets the cuffs and the huff.”

The GOP smirked with delight,
Hauling Clintons in late every night.
But the Dems just laughed back,
Said, “You scratched a big crack—
Now it’s our turn to give you a bite.”

Said Frost with a leer and a grin,
“You opened the door—let us in.
If you like it real raw,
With subpoenas and law,
We’ll call Don and the kids and the kin.”

When Epstein got waved like a flag,
The whole damn thing started to sag.
“You wanted the past? Just
Hope you’re ready—because
We’re subpoenaing everything you brag.”

“There’ll be oaths,” said the Dems, “nice and tight,
No wiggle, no dodging, no flight.
You set the damn bed,
Now lie in it,” they said,
“And we’ll watch while you squirm in the light.”

So beware when you threaten with glee,
To drag ghosts in for all eyes to see:
If you tug on that thread,
Soon it’s your ass instead
Getting hauled in by precedent—whee!”

Bev54

(13,315 posts)
10. It will never happen, he will either be dead or in a mental facility before he ever
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 02:41 PM
2 hrs ago

testifies. This is completely empty threat for him but not for his kids, which you will see moving to the UAE when he is out of power. They will be investigated as will those who carried out his orders.

Edit to add: he will likely provide everyone in his admin pardons before he goes either way, if it hasn't already been done.

C_U_L8R

(49,102 posts)
11. Not very good chess players
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 02:43 PM
2 hrs ago

It's doubtful they'd do any better at checkers.
How about a nice game of Go Fish.

lastlib

(27,767 posts)
15. Tic-tac-toe is the limit of their mental faculties.....
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 03:12 PM
2 hrs ago

On a good day, they can count to three without using fingers.

mr715

(3,165 posts)
14. Yup yup yup.
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 03:02 PM
2 hrs ago

I know President Clinton and Secretary Clinton are going to run circles around Comer et al.

The GOP in Congress have no idea the forces they are meddling with.

For one, Sec. Clinton isn't even in the files, so it is blatantly a "witch hunt" on its face. Additionally, the Clintons are not political aspirants and need to be neutralized. They are, at best, elder statespeople. At worst, they have no influence on electoral politics anymore.

dlk

(13,168 posts)
18. And how many years has Jim Jordan thumbed his nose at his congressional subpoena?
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 03:21 PM
1 hr ago

The hypocrisy is epic.

GiqueCee

(3,596 posts)
19. Comer...
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 03:25 PM
1 hr ago

... you blithering idiot, it is rumored that there are telephone poles smarter than you. Careful what you wish for, dumbass.

intheflow

(30,066 posts)
20. Bullshit.
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 03:29 PM
1 hr ago

The only way Republicans will ever honor a Congressional subpoenas again is if they are already locked up and forced to comply by the bailiff. The Dems really screwed their own pooch by not hold Gym Jordan in contempt over his J6 subpoenas. Talk about shooting ourselves in the foot!

Response to bigtree (Original post)

progressoid

(52,784 posts)
24. Wait wait wait. So a family of known law breakers is suddenly going to agree to appear from a subpoena that has no teeth
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 03:48 PM
1 hr ago

just because the Clintons agreed to it?

On what fucking planet is this going to happen?

2naSalit

(100,860 posts)
42. That being said...
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 05:13 PM
5 min ago

They will likely be regretting it a few minutes in because both of them have, individually, more intellect than the entire republican caucus on a bad day. It will be a two batch popcorn day for sure.

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