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WhiskeyGrinder

(26,002 posts)
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 01:45 PM 16 hrs ago

House votes 285-98 to denounce 'horrors' of socialism ahead of Mamdani-Trump meeting

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/11/21/congress/house-denounces-horrors-of-socialism-00664412

The House voted 285-98 to approve a resolution condemning the “horrors of socialism” Friday morning, just hours before President Donald Trump is set to meet with New York’s incoming democratic socialist mayor Zohran Mamdani.

Eighty-six Democrats joined with Republicans to approve the measure. Two others voted present. No Republican voted to oppose it.

(snip)

The debate over the symbolic measure was derailed for about 10 minutes after Rep. Maria Salazar (R-Fla.) verbally attacked Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) on the floor, accusing her of being a “friend” of the late Cuban dictator Fidel Castro despite traveling to the country and seeing the abuses of his regime.

Waters asked for Salazar’s words to be taken down, but Salazer instead withdrew her remarks, allowing the debate to continue.
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House votes 285-98 to denounce 'horrors' of socialism ahead of Mamdani-Trump meeting (Original Post) WhiskeyGrinder 16 hrs ago OP
Why do Democrats Mad_Machine76 16 hrs ago #1
I Guess to Remind Us That Idiocy Does Not Scrupulously Observe the D-R Divide and Can The Roux Comes First 16 hrs ago #9
I blame the Jewish Space Lasers Stacey Grove 14 hrs ago #46
Democrats have bought into GOP performance art since losing in 1984. nt Gore1FL 15 hrs ago #28
those dems do not represent me mike_c 15 hrs ago #29
Eighty-six Democrats join in mental masturbation HAB911 16 hrs ago #2
Right? Especially knowing that fellow Dem Mamdani is meeting with Trump today. Incanus 16 hrs ago #16
K now do fascism. And capitalism. SSJVegeta 16 hrs ago #3
LOL Here's the list leftstreet 16 hrs ago #4
Hakeem Jeffries of course choie 16 hrs ago #11
Such leadership! leftstreet 16 hrs ago #19
A tactical masterstroke nt mr715 15 hrs ago #33
Denouncing the Khmer Rouge! leftstreet 14 hrs ago #47
F--- policy, period. mr715 13 hrs ago #48
I'm shocked, SHOCKED, I say, to see Henry Cuellar on that list Rob H. 15 hrs ago #39
Yep, my MAGA wing Dem congress waman sold out as usual. Ping Tung 16 hrs ago #17
Glad to not see Delaware on that list. woodsprite 15 hrs ago #30
Revealing beyond words. JCA Passages 10 hrs ago #79
I don't have a problem with Democrats voting for this. tritsofme 16 hrs ago #5
Why not? leftstreet 16 hrs ago #8
Why would I? Seems like a perfectly reasonable vote for these Democrats. tritsofme 16 hrs ago #14
Sure will bring back those Biden voters! leftstreet 16 hrs ago #18
Post removed Post removed 15 hrs ago #35
It is absolutely ridiculous. choie 16 hrs ago #13
Horrors like Social Security, Medicare, MedicAid, no_hypocrisy 16 hrs ago #6
Looks that way. I believe we have a Emile 16 hrs ago #23
All programs that Trump wants dead and gone. Lancero 13 hrs ago #50
Hope it mentions corporate socialism in particular! nt intrepidity 16 hrs ago #7
My very pale blue congresswoman voted for the new Red Scare. Ping Tung 16 hrs ago #10
So did mine... regnaD kciN 13 hrs ago #61
We're in the same state but diferent CD. Ping Tung 11 hrs ago #74
Even Michael Steele last night said . . . peggysue2 16 hrs ago #12
Because they're scared of their shadow. choie 16 hrs ago #15
I'm thinking Swing Districts for the UPcoming Cha 13 hrs ago #58
Republicans are desperate to find an issue SocialDemocrat61 13 hrs ago #67
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave 16 hrs ago #20
Their position is to play it safe and do a lot of flag waving and tell everyone that they're REAL Ping Tung 15 hrs ago #26
Dems had better bring up a bill on JBTaurus83 16 hrs ago #21
Democratic Socialism as referenced by people like Bernie and Mandami is actually social democracy. walkingman 16 hrs ago #22
Oh, no! Not socialism! Someone might go to the library, a public school, mail a letter, ride a bus. Solly Mack 15 hrs ago #24
They might get to go the doctor or eat every day! mr715 15 hrs ago #34
The stuff of nightmares! Solly Mack 12 hrs ago #71
What an idiotic vote. Don't these clowns have anything better to do? Borogove 15 hrs ago #25
But fascism is just fine Orrex 15 hrs ago #27
Obviously, they have spiffy uniforms. nt mr715 15 hrs ago #36
Oh brother Fiendish Thingy 15 hrs ago #31
Here are the 98 Nay Dem votes and the 27 non voting Dem plus the 2 Dems who voted 'Present' Celerity 13 hrs ago #55
Sorry but the thing that attacked Maxine Waters Blue Full Moon 15 hrs ago #32
Embarrassing stuff Prairie Gates 15 hrs ago #37
Now you know who "to primary." DJ Synikus Makisimus 15 hrs ago #38
Shame on any Dem who voted Yea. They play right into RW framing. Here is the text of this asinine bill: Celerity 15 hrs ago #40
OMG I wish I hadn't read that leftstreet 15 hrs ago #43
That is a hard-right screed misanthrope 13 hrs ago #49
+1 leftstreet 13 hrs ago #51
The Democratic Representatives should ALL have voted 'Present' 70sEraVet 13 hrs ago #60
Based on this list of examples, the TSF regime should be facing imminent collapse LearnedHand 13 hrs ago #69
What idiot wrote that screed?. Autumn 11 hrs ago #73
They seem to have nothing better to do C_U_L8R 15 hrs ago #41
So, is Congress finally holding Civics or Political economics classes for their Members? haele 15 hrs ago #42
When will they denounce the horrors of Predatory Capitalism? Emile 14 hrs ago #44
Oh, no! -misanthroptimist 14 hrs ago #45
To be fair misanthrope 13 hrs ago #53
Doesn't change my point, really, does it? -misanthroptimist 13 hrs ago #68
I hate votes like this regardless of the subject KLK1972 13 hrs ago #52
Huzzah! misanthrope 13 hrs ago #57
WTF? 86 Ds voted with the Rs in favor of this? KPN 13 hrs ago #54
They don't want to talk about their policies for helping people on affordability on groceries, housing, healthcare, everyonematters 13 hrs ago #56
It's not a hill to die on. RandySF 13 hrs ago #59
HORRORS???? elleng 13 hrs ago #62
WTF????? Sewage. Dems should have walked out. 58Sunliner 13 hrs ago #63
All government jobs and The Wizard 13 hrs ago #64
Please tell me I'm having a nightmare or fever dream LearnedHand 13 hrs ago #65
Ignorant vote put forth by ignoramuses. Democratic socialism is NOT Marxist/Communist socialism. CousinIT 13 hrs ago #66
Most of these idiots couldn't define socialism Picaro 12 hrs ago #70
You think that Jim Clyburn, Hakeem Jeffries, Ted Lieu, Gregory Meeks, & Debby Wasserman-Schutz are idiots? MichMan 11 hrs ago #72
Do these idiots have any clue what socialism actually is? Initech 11 hrs ago #75
Do Trumpsters really denounce socialism? Not if there is money in it for them. Norrrm 10 hrs ago #76
Idiotic nonsense. BlueTsunami2018 10 hrs ago #77
What the f*** are they voting on and why Tribetime 10 hrs ago #78

The Roux Comes First

(2,009 posts)
9. I Guess to Remind Us That Idiocy Does Not Scrupulously Observe the D-R Divide and Can
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 01:55 PM
16 hrs ago

Show up in the nicest families!

Education and a sense of humor can help, but childhood trauma, cosmic rays, and etc. can trigger cerebral failure with little warning, in my experience.

mike_c

(36,854 posts)
29. those dems do not represent me
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 02:25 PM
15 hrs ago

I'm a socialist, if I'm anything. Oh, the "horror" of policy to improve the lives of everyone rather than mandating that the rest of us give everything for the rich and their profits!

Incanus

(179 posts)
16. Right? Especially knowing that fellow Dem Mamdani is meeting with Trump today.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 02:01 PM
16 hrs ago

Were they all Cuomo supporters or do they just not realize they're being used?

leftstreet

(38,461 posts)
4. LOL Here's the list
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 01:50 PM
16 hrs ago

Pete Aguilar of California
Gabe Amo of Rhode Island
Jake Auchincloss of Massachusetts
Ami Bera of California
Sanford Bishop of Georgia
Brandon Boyle of Pennsylvania
Nikki Budzinski of Illinois
Salud Carbajal of California
Ed Case of Hawaii
Kathy Castor of Florida
Sheila Cherfilus-McCormick of Florida
Gil Cisneros of California
Katherine Clark of Massachusetts
Jim Clyburn of South Carolina
Herb Conaway of New Jersey
Lou Correa of California
Jim Costa of California
Angie Craig of Minnesota
Jason Crow of Colorado
Henry Cuellar of Texas
Don Davis of North Carolina
Chris Deluzio of Pennsylvania
Shomari Figures of Alabama
Bill Foster of Illinois
Lois Frankel of Florida
Laura Gillen of New York
Jared Golden of Maine
Vicente Gonzalez of Texas
Maggie Goodlander of New Hampshire
Josh Gottheimer of New Jersey
Adam Gray of California
Josh Harder of California
Jim Himes of Connecticut
Steven Horsford of Nevada
Chrissy Houlahan of Pennsylvania
Hakeem Jeffries of New York
Julie Johnson of Texas
Marcy Kaptur of Ohio
Bill Keating of Massachusetts
Greg Landsman of Ohio
Susie Lee of Nevada
Mike Levin of California
Ted Lieu of California
Stephen Lynch of Massachusetts
Seth Magaziner of Rhode Island
John Mannion of New York
Lucy McBath of Georgia
April McClain Delaney of Maryland
Kristen McDonald Rivet of Michigan
Gregory Meeks of New York
Grace Meng of New York
Joseph Morelle of New York
Kelly Morrison of Minnesota
Jared Moskowitz of Florida
Seth Moulton of Massachusetts
Frank Mrvan of Indiana
Donald Norcross of New Jersey
Jimmy Panetta of California
Chris Pappas of New Hampshire
Marie Gluesenkamp Perez of Washington
Scott Peters of California
Brittany Pettersen of Colorado
Nellie Pou of New Jersey
Josh Riley of New York
Raul Ruiz of California
Pat Ryan of New York
Andrea Salinas of Oregon
Brad Schneider of Illinois
Hillary Scholten of Michigan
Kim Schrier of Washington
Eric Sorenson of Illinois
Daren Soto of Florida
Greg Stanton of Arizona
Haley Stevens of Michigan
Marilyn Strickland of Washington
Tom Suozzi of New York
Emilia Sykes of Ohio
Dina Titus of Nevada
Ritchie Torres of New York
Lori Trahan of Massachusetts
Gabe Vasquez of New Mexico
Eugene Vindman of Virginia
James Walkinshaw of Virginia
Debbie Wasserman Schultz of Florida
George Whitesides of California
Fredrica Wilson of Florida

Two Democrats, Representatives Janelle Bynum of Oregon and Deborah Ross of North Carolina, voted present.

https://www.newsweek.com/full-list-of-democrats-voting-to-condemn-socialism-as-mamdani-comes-to-town-11088383

leftstreet

(38,461 posts)
47. Denouncing the Khmer Rouge!
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 04:03 PM
14 hrs ago

F**k healthcare, wages, rent or grocery prices!

Unbelievable.
Wait, do we get Disco back with this bill?

mr715

(2,360 posts)
48. F--- policy, period.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 04:07 PM
13 hrs ago

I am so disappointed with Hakeem Jeffries voting (as leader) in the affirmative. Especially since Mamdani has turned Trump on to the benefits of socialisms and affordability.

Sometimes I am so impressed by my party. Sometimes I am so disappointed.

woodsprite

(12,526 posts)
30. Glad to not see Delaware on that list.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 02:26 PM
15 hrs ago

Traveling so I hadn’t had a chance to look into this yet.

leftstreet

(38,461 posts)
18. Sure will bring back those Biden voters!
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 02:03 PM
16 hrs ago

The 6+million reliably Democratic voters who voted Biden, but sat out Harris

Yeah, this was probably what they wanted - denouncing "socialism." Clever strategy, denouncing socialism while people are moving towards it.

Response to tritsofme (Reply #14)

choie

(6,442 posts)
13. It is absolutely ridiculous.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 01:59 PM
16 hrs ago

They should be ashamed of themselves falling for the rethugs bullshit. Ooga booga socialism! So scary all that social security and Medicare.

no_hypocrisy

(53,839 posts)
6. Horrors like Social Security, Medicare, MedicAid,
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 01:51 PM
16 hrs ago

and Unemployment? Democrats voted to condemn these programs?

Lancero

(3,257 posts)
50. All programs that Trump wants dead and gone.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 04:30 PM
13 hrs ago

Seems like he'll be having bipartisan support in his efforts to kill them off.

Ping Tung

(4,052 posts)
10. My very pale blue congresswoman voted for the new Red Scare.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 01:56 PM
16 hrs ago

I've warned her that her semi-MAGA cuddling with Trump Inc will decide my vote in our open primary..

"Were parties here divided merely by a greediness for office,...to take a part with either would be unworthy of a reasonable or moral man." --Thomas Jefferson

regnaD kciN

(27,369 posts)
61. So did mine...
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 04:47 PM
13 hrs ago

Maybe we live in the same district? My congresscritter seems to hate only two things: socialism and advocating for the people of Gaza.

I hope someone primaries her next year. If I wasn't a senior citizen with all the charisma of a rotting log, I'd consider doing it myself.

Ping Tung

(4,052 posts)
74. We're in the same state but diferent CD.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 06:42 PM
11 hrs ago

She scraped in by playing to the middle in a purple distrist and watching the pubs destroy a sure win by a "moderate" pun who had held the seat easily for 12 years. But, she had pissed off Trump by backing Romney and saying that Donnie was unfit to hold any office.

In the primary the MAGAs backed a Super MAGA pro-life, pro-gun, ass kisser. There enough moderat pubs to combine with the Dems for her to win as a "moderate". . I held my nose and voted for her. Since then she's cuddled up to Trump to protect her from the furious Dems.

peggysue2

(12,320 posts)
12. Even Michael Steele last night said . . .
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 01:58 PM
16 hrs ago

There's a vast difference between Communism/Socialism and Democratic Socialism. Notice how the word "Democratic" was left out of the resolution.

Why in God's name would any Democratic Representative vote for this when they have to know it's pure propaganda to damn Mamdani's visit today. And no, I do not think Mamdani wants to turn NYC into Cuba.

Cha

(315,979 posts)
58. I'm thinking Swing Districts for the UPcoming
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 04:39 PM
13 hrs ago

Election in 2026... but I don't know, of course. It's a Stupid Resolution.. it Should be Fascism has No Place in America.

Aloha, PeggySue

Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Original post)

Ping Tung

(4,052 posts)
26. Their position is to play it safe and do a lot of flag waving and tell everyone that they're REAL
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 02:14 PM
15 hrs ago

patriots who will protect us from schools, health care. equality, and tho other horrors of socialism. Ugh, they are pathetic opportunists who'll vote based on the polls and MAGA mythology.

walkingman

(10,143 posts)
22. Democratic Socialism as referenced by people like Bernie and Mandami is actually social democracy.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 02:06 PM
16 hrs ago

They advocate for a capitalistic economic system with strong social programs. Those attacking Bernie and Mandami know this but think it serves their purpose to accuse them anyway.

I find it bewildering that Democratic representatives feel so compelled to be support this farce.

For context, remember that over 80% of Americans do not understand what is meant by the term "Democratic Socialism"

Solly Mack

(96,130 posts)
24. Oh, no! Not socialism! Someone might go to the library, a public school, mail a letter, ride a bus.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 02:10 PM
15 hrs ago

Oh, wait - all public goods that conservatives have always attacked or fought against... trying to destroy them.





mr715

(2,360 posts)
34. They might get to go the doctor or eat every day!
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 02:35 PM
15 hrs ago

Could you imagine if someone got a college degree and didn't owe $200,000 in debt? I choose to not imagine a world where that is possible.

Heaven forbid! There is nothing worse than SOCIALISM!

Celerity

(53,157 posts)
55. Here are the 98 Nay Dem votes and the 27 non voting Dem plus the 2 Dems who voted 'Present'
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 04:34 PM
13 hrs ago
https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2025305?Page=2&RollCallNum=305

Nay (98)

Adams Democratic North Carolina Nay
Ansari Democratic Arizona Nay
Balint Democratic Vermont Nay
Barragán Democratic California Nay
Beyer Democratic Virginia Nay
Bonamici Democratic Oregon Nay
Brown Democratic Ohio Nay
Carson Democratic Indiana Nay
Carter (LA) Democratic Louisiana Nay
Casten Democratic Illinois Nay
Castro (TX) Democratic Texas Nay
Chu Democratic California Nay
Clarke (NY) Democratic New York Nay
Cleaver Democratic Missouri Nay
Cohen Democratic Tennessee Nay
Courtney Democratic Connecticut Nay
Crockett Democratic Texas Nay
Davis (IL) Democratic Illinois Nay
Dean (PA) Democratic Pennsylvania Nay
DeGette Democratic Colorado Nay
DeLauro Democratic Connecticut Nay
DeSaulnier Democratic California Nay
Dexter Democratic Oregon Nay
Doggett Democratic Texas Nay
Elfreth Democratic Maryland Nay
Escobar Democratic Texas Nay
Espaillat Democratic New York Nay
Evans (PA) Democratic Pennsylvania Nay
Fletcher Democratic Texas Nay
Foushee Democratic North Carolina Nay
Friedman Democratic California Nay
Frost Democratic Florida Nay
García (IL) Democratic Illinois Nay
Garcia (TX) Democratic Texas Nay
Goldman (NY) Democratic New York Nay
Green, Al (TX) Democratic Texas Nay
Grijalva Democratic Arizona Nay
Hayes Democratic Connecticut Nay
Hoyer Democratic Maryland Nay
Hoyle (OR) Democratic Oregon Nay
Huffman Democratic California Nay
Ivey Democratic Maryland Nay
Jackson (IL) Democratic Illinois Nay
Jacobs Democratic California Nay
Jayapal Democratic Washington Nay
Johnson (GA) Democratic Georgia Nay
Kamlager-Dove Democratic California Nay
Kelly (IL) Democratic Illinois Nay
Kennedy (NY) Democratic New York Nay
Larson (CT) Democratic Connecticut Nay
Lee (PA) Democratic Pennsylvania Nay
Leger Fernandez Democratic New Mexico Nay
Matsui Democratic California Nay
McClellan Democratic Virginia Nay
McCollum Democratic Minnesota Nay
McGarvey Democratic Kentucky Nay
McGovern Democratic Massachusetts Nay
McIver Democratic New Jersey Nay
Menendez Democratic New Jersey Nay
Min Democratic California Nay
Moore (WI) Democratic Wisconsin Nay
Mullin Democratic California Nay
Neal Democratic Massachusetts Nay
Neguse Democratic Colorado Nay
Ocasio-Cortez Democratic New York Nay
Olszewski Democratic Maryland Nay
Omar Democratic Minnesota Nay
Pallone Democratic New Jersey Nay
Pelosi Democratic California Nay
Pocan Democratic Wisconsin Nay
Pressley Democratic Massachusetts Nay
Ramirez Democratic Illinois Nay
Randall Democratic Washington Nay
Raskin Democratic Maryland Nay
Rivas Democratic California Nay
Sánchez Democratic California Nay
Scanlon Democratic Pennsylvania Nay
Schakowsky Democratic Illinois Nay
Scott (VA) Democratic Virginia Nay
Scott, David Democratic Georgia Nay
Sewell Democratic Alabama Nay
Sherman Democratic California Nay
Simon Democratic California Nay
Smith (WA) Democratic Washington Nay
Subramanyam Democratic Virginia Nay
Takano Democratic California Nay
Thanedar Democratic Michigan Nay
Thompson (CA) Democratic California Nay
Thompson (MS) Democratic Mississippi Nay
Tlaib Democratic Michigan Nay
Tokuda Democratic Hawaii Nay
Tonko Democratic New York Nay
Tran Democratic California Nay
Underwood Democratic Illinois Nay
Vargas Democratic California Nay
Waters Democratic California Nay
Watson Coleman Democratic New Jersey Nay
Williams (GA) Democratic Georgia Nay



https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2025305?Page=2&RollCallNum=305

Not Voting (27)

Representative Party State Vote
Beatty Democratic Ohio Not Voting
Bell Democratic Missouri Not Voting
Brownley Democratic California Not Voting
Casar Democratic Texas Not Voting
Davids (KS) Democratic Kansas Not Voting
DelBene Democratic Washington Not Voting
Dingell Democratic Michigan Not Voting
Fields Democratic Louisiana Not Voting
Garamendi Democratic California Not Voting
Garcia (CA) Democratic California Not Voting
Gomez Democratic California Not Voting
Khanna Democratic California Not Voting
Krishnamoorthi Democratic Illinois Not Voting
Larsen (WA) Democratic Washington Not Voting
Latimer Democratic New York Not Voting
Liccardo Democratic California Not Voting
Lofgren Democratic California Not Voting
McBride Democratic Delaware Not Voting
Mfume Democratic Maryland Not Voting
Nadler Democratic New York Not Voting
Pingree Democratic Maine Not Voting
Quigley Democratic Illinois Not Voting
Stansbury Democratic New Mexico Not Voting
Swalwell Democratic California Not Voting
Torres (CA) Democratic California Not Voting
Veasey Democratic Texas Not Voting
Velázquez Democratic New York Not Voting


https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2025305?Page=2&RollCallNum=305

Present (2)

Bynum Democratic Oregon Present
Ross Democratic North Carolina Present

DJ Synikus Makisimus

(1,131 posts)
38. Now you know who "to primary."
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 02:37 PM
15 hrs ago

It is down from the 95 who voted for the Kirk Resolution, but I would argue that all 94 of those need to be "primaried." Golden, the 95th, has already announced he's leaving. Good riddance. Probably should look closely at those who weaseled by abstaining or walking out as well.

Now about the Senate ...

Celerity

(53,157 posts)
40. Shame on any Dem who voted Yea. They play right into RW framing. Here is the text of this asinine bill:
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 02:44 PM
15 hrs ago
https://www.congress.gov/119/bills/hconres58/BILLS-119hconres58ih.pdf

CONCURRENT RESOLUTION

Denouncing the horrors of socialism.


Whereas socialist ideology necessitates a concentration of power that has, time and time again, collapsed into communist regimes, totalitarian rule, and brutal dictatorships;

Whereas socialism has repeatedly led to famine and mass murders, and the killing of over 100,000,000 people worldwide;

Whereas many of the greatest crimes in history were committed by socialist ideologues, including Vladimir Lenin, Joseph Stalin, Mao Zedong, Fidel Castro, Pol Pot, Kim Jong Il, Kim Jong Un, Daniel Ortega, Hugo Chavez, and Nicola´s Maduro;

Whereas tens of millions died in the Bolshevik Revolution, at least 10,000,000 people were sent to the gulags in the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, and millions more starved in the Terror-Famine (Holodomor) in Ukraine;

Whereas between 15,000,000 and 55,000,000 people starved to death in the wake of famine and devastation caused by the Great Leap Forward in China;

Whereas the socialist experiment in Cambodia led to the killing fields in which over a million people were gruesomely murdered;

Whereas up to 3,500,000 people have starved in North Korea, dividing a land of freedom from a land of destitution;

Whereas the Castro regime in Cuba expropriated the land of Cuban farmers and the businesses of Cuban entrepreneurs, stealing their possessions and their livelihoods, and exiling millions with nothing but the clothes on their backs;

Whereas the implementation of socialism in Venezuela has turned a once-prosperous country into a failed State with the highest rate of inflation in the world;

Whereas President Thomas Jefferson, the author of the Declaration of Independence, wrote, ‘‘To take from one, because it is thought that his own industry and that of his fathers has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, the guarantee to every one of a free exercise of his industry, and the fruits acquired by it’’;

Whereas President James Madison, the "Father of the Constitution’’, wrote that it ‘‘is not a just government, nor is property secure under it, where the property which a man has in his personal safety and personal liberty, is
violated by arbitrary seizures of one class of citizens for the service of the rest’’; and

Whereas the United States was founded on the belief in the sanctity of the individual, to which the collectivistic system of socialism in all of its forms is fundamentally and necessarily opposed:

Now, therefore, be it Resolved by the House of Representatives (the Senate concurring),

That Congress denounces socialism in all its forms, and opposes the implementation of socialist policies in the United States.



misanthrope

(9,329 posts)
49. That is a hard-right screed
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 04:27 PM
13 hrs ago

against not just the entire social safety net but the idea of paying taxes altogether. They even sprinkled in some disingenuous historical conflations for effect.

This looks like it came from a Libertarian Party chapter meeting.,

70sEraVet

(5,132 posts)
60. The Democratic Representatives should ALL have voted 'Present'
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 04:44 PM
13 hrs ago

And sent the message that after laying out for six weeks, the Republican Representatives have more important matters to address than wasting time on such worthless absurdities.

LearnedHand

(5,163 posts)
69. Based on this list of examples, the TSF regime should be facing imminent collapse
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 05:01 PM
13 hrs ago

Having implemented policies that accomplish the entire fucking list.

C_U_L8R

(48,591 posts)
41. They seem to have nothing better to do
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 02:47 PM
15 hrs ago

How about the horrors of a Republican-managed healthcare system? Or retirement plan? That’s some scary shit.

haele

(14,889 posts)
42. So, is Congress finally holding Civics or Political economics classes for their Members?
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 02:48 PM
15 hrs ago

The horrors of Socialism as practiced in Maoism and Stalinism...okay, I'm fine with being against stupid One Party or Autocratic Central Governments.

Oh, I know.... Let's do a resolution denouncing End Stage Capitalism as practiced by Fascists, Mobsters and Oligarchies, next.
Then we can go on to the high level corruption and horrors inherent in Theocracies and both Left and Right Radicalism.

Or just maybe, after the morning prayer service, have a two hour basic US Civics and Government Class every Tuesday and Thursday, instead of manning the phone banks for donations.

-misanthroptimist

(1,551 posts)
45. Oh, no!
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 03:19 PM
14 hrs ago

Has anyone told Europe that socialism is evil? I ask because the people in Europe living with the most socialism also tend to be among the happiest on Earth.

misanthrope

(9,329 posts)
53. To be fair
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 04:33 PM
13 hrs ago

Those contented populations tend to live in mixed economies that blend capitalism with socialism, but with less of the fear-mongering that characterizes American life. The U.S. has a mixed economy as well and at one time it led to the most prosperous middle class the nation has ever had and was improving standards of living incrementally. Now that the post-Reagan fever dream has finally reached its apex, we are poised to plunge even further below those happy Europeans than we already were.

-misanthroptimist

(1,551 posts)
68. Doesn't change my point, really, does it?
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 04:59 PM
13 hrs ago

Those countries do have mixed economies, but as you point out, that includes socialism. The very socialism that our House condemned this very day. If we accept that condemnation then we are saying some evil is okay. Of course, the "horrors" associated with socialism isn't socialism at all. It was and is despotism. And that's what those countries lack. That is why they are happy. Economically, they have something approaching decency while retaining democracy.

KLK1972

(4 posts)
52. I hate votes like this regardless of the subject
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 04:33 PM
13 hrs ago

It's strictly performative and means nothing. Just a waste of taxpayer time and money rather than focusing on important issues and legislation that contains action items.

misanthrope

(9,329 posts)
57. Huzzah!
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 04:36 PM
13 hrs ago

Democrats should have simply abstained from voting and told anyone curious that they thought the time ever more precious since the session had been affected so much by the shutdown. "I"m trying to give the American people actual work in exchange for their money," they could have said on the record.

everyonematters

(3,982 posts)
56. They don't want to talk about their policies for helping people on affordability on groceries, housing, healthcare,
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 04:35 PM
13 hrs ago

or energy because they don't have any. All they have is fear. In this case, fear of a word.

elleng

(141,645 posts)
62. HORRORS????
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 04:47 PM
13 hrs ago

In President Harry's Truman's remarks in Syracuse, New York on October 10, 1952, he said this:

Socialism is a scare word they have hurled at every advance the people have made in the last 20 years.

Socialism is what they called public power. Socialism is what they called social security.

Socialism is what they called farm price supports.

Socialism is what they called bank deposit insurance.

Socialism is what they called the growth of free and independent labor organizations.

Socialism is their name for almost anything that helps all the people.

When the Republican candidate inscribes the slogan "Down With Socialism" on the banner of his "great crusade," that is really not what he means at all.

What he really means is "Down with Progress--down with Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal," and "down with Harry Truman's fair Deal." That's all he means.

You can listen to President Truman deliver this speech (and download it, if you want) on the Truman Library's website here: https://www.trumanlibrary.gov/soundrecording-records/sr59-160-president-truman-rear-platform-remarks-syracuse-new-york. The portion you're looking for is about 6:45 into the speech.

The Wizard

(13,495 posts)
64. All government jobs and
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 04:50 PM
13 hrs ago

all forms government intervention are a form of socialism as we as a society have decided certain government ventures like capital projects such as roads, bridges, hospitals, along with police and fire protection are for the greater good in promoting civility and the general welfare as prescribed in the Constitution's preamble.

LearnedHand

(5,163 posts)
65. Please tell me I'm having a nightmare or fever dream
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 04:50 PM
13 hrs ago

If true this is too discouraging to contemplate. I can’t take it when the Dems turn on their own supporters.

CousinIT

(12,051 posts)
66. Ignorant vote put forth by ignoramuses. Democratic socialism is NOT Marxist/Communist socialism.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 04:51 PM
13 hrs ago

They are pretty different.

RATHER THAN Democrats using this to illustrate Republicans' ignorance on the matter, they accepted Republican framing and voted for a stupid bill.

Ugh.

MichMan

(16,332 posts)
72. You think that Jim Clyburn, Hakeem Jeffries, Ted Lieu, Gregory Meeks, & Debby Wasserman-Schutz are idiots?
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 06:14 PM
11 hrs ago
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