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eppur_se_muova

(40,309 posts)
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 01:13 PM Oct 8

Rep. Grijalva does NOT need to be sworn in by the Speaker ..... others can do the job, and have done so in the past.

The Speaker or Speaker Pro Tempore must swear in members who miss the mass swearing-in ceremony on the first day afterward; on rare occasions, the House has authorized other Members or local judges to swear-in absent Representatives.

https://history.house.gov/Institution/Origins-Development/Oath-of-Office/


I.E. THAT'S THE HOUSE'S OWN F***ING WEB PAGE AS THE SOURCE

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Rep. Grijalva does NOT need to be sworn in by the Speaker ..... others can do the job, and have done so in the past. (Original Post) eppur_se_muova Oct 8 OP
Just effin malaise Oct 8 #1
So the House has to approve letting a judge do the swearing-in? Qutzupalotl Oct 8 #2
K&R UTUSN Oct 8 #3
Johnson is not going to do it, so get on with it. GoodRaisin Oct 8 #4
So how do we get around that? calimary Oct 8 #5
Taxation Without Representation.... we all know the next line Attilatheblond Oct 8 #6
Not likely onenote Oct 8 #13
Being forced to pay taxes but not allowed representation isn't enough to have standing? Attilatheblond Oct 8 #14
Nope. onenote Oct 8 #16
Ha. That's funny. Like rules and laws matter any more. progressoid Oct 8 #7
Perhaps Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson could be called-upon to remedy this Constitutional aberration. BurnDoubt Oct 8 #8
That's my thought. IrishAfricanAmerican Oct 8 #9
Only if specifically authorized by House resolution onenote Oct 8 #10
Aw, hell, I'd much rather be sworn in by Hakeem Jeffries Warpy Oct 8 #11
For the Epsteinth time, release the files surfered Oct 8 #12
Squeaker of the House is absent and unaccounted for MerryBlooms Oct 8 #15

GoodRaisin

(10,583 posts)
4. Johnson is not going to do it, so get on with it.
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 02:09 PM
Oct 8

Krasnov has told Johnson in no uncertain terms absolutely do not swear that woman in.

calimary

(88,084 posts)
5. So how do we get around that?
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 03:02 PM
Oct 8

Her constituents who chose her to represent them are being robbed, defied, and insulted - every minute that this drags on.

Attilatheblond

(7,487 posts)
6. Taxation Without Representation.... we all know the next line
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 03:13 PM
Oct 8

People in AZ 7 are generally well below wealthy. They have withholding taken out of their pay checks every payday. And they are without representation in the US House of Representatives. Any way some lawyers can file a class action suit against Mike Johnson?

onenote

(45,726 posts)
13. Not likely
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 04:36 PM
Oct 8

She would be the one with standing and she is unlikely to sue at least not yet.
It’s been 17 days since she was elected. While that’s an atypically long period to wait to be sworn in, there are several recent examples of members — of both parties— not being sworn for two weeks. If it was to continue to be delayed after Johnson reconvenes the House she will have a stronger case

Attilatheblond

(7,487 posts)
14. Being forced to pay taxes but not allowed representation isn't enough to have standing?
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 05:38 PM
Oct 8

Not gonna buy that, as I am a neighbor to those in that district.

onenote

(45,726 posts)
16. Nope.
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 09:40 PM
Oct 8

And its unlikely the courts would take the case, at least not under the current facts.

I'm not in any way defending Johnson, who is plainly avoiding swearing her in for partisan reasons. But its just a fact that there is no specific requirement for when a new member gets sworn in. There are examples where the swearing in has not occurred until a month after a special election and two weeks is pretty common. And those facts make court intervention, at least at this point in time, unlikely.


BurnDoubt

(1,118 posts)
8. Perhaps Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson could be called-upon to remedy this Constitutional aberration.
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 03:24 PM
Oct 8

onenote

(45,726 posts)
10. Only if specifically authorized by House resolution
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 03:43 PM
Oct 8

The assignment of the Speaker to swear in members is enshrined in statutory law — 2 usc 25 to be precise. The only instances where someone other than the speaker has sworn in a member have been situations where the House authorized that action by resolution. And so long as Johnson keeps the House in recess there can’t be a vote on such a resolution.

So, no, no judge or clerk or anyone can officially swear in a new member

Warpy

(114,038 posts)
11. Aw, hell, I'd much rather be sworn in by Hakeem Jeffries
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 03:54 PM
Oct 8

than Marshmallow Mike Johnson, a man so deeply in thrall to his Lard and Savior that even a marshmallow might be more substantial than he is.

Yes, it's Johnson's job and his refusal to DO HIS FUCKING JOB should be one thing Democrats hammer him with next year.

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