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turbinetree

(26,638 posts)
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 09:49 AM Oct 7

GOP strategist offers chilling plan for Trump-Maxwell pardon: 'Whether you like it or not'

By Travis Gettys
Published October 7, 2025 9: 19 AM ET

The U.S. Supreme Court declined to take up an appeal filed by convicted sex trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell, but President Donald Trump propped open the door to pardoning her Monday.

Trump was asked Monday whether he would consider freeing Maxwell, who's serving a 20-year prison sentence for her role in grooming and abusing underage girls with the late Jeffrey Epstein. The president claimed ignorance of the matter but added that he would discuss her case with the Department of Justice – which stuck out to Republican strategist Lee Carter as a bit convoluted.

"It does seem like a complicated answer, and one that you would think that he would be prepared to answer," said Carter, a regular fill-in host for Fox Business. "The thing that I think is really interesting about Donald Trump and his use of pardons and executive power is he looks at it really as an exertion of power, not as what's popular. So when he looks at what he's going to say, he's like, 'I just want to make sure that it's very clear I am in charge here, and I am the arbiter of what's going to happen or not,' and I think he might be laying the groundwork to do it."

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-pardon-maxwell-2674161524/

Hey Carter.................I hate to break it to you and CNN but the only reason why the 34 count fraudster and let's not forget what he did and was found liable by a jury in the Carroll case is that prior to this the traitor yes he is a traitor (took classified documents to be placed in his rat infested toilet in Florida) got not ONE but TWO free passes by your maga senators and an absolute FREE PASS by your maga US Supreme Court.........so just maybe you and CNN should report it has such because that is the fucking facts on how he is getting away with shit .......today......................JFC

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GOP strategist offers chilling plan for Trump-Maxwell pardon: 'Whether you like it or not' (Original Post) turbinetree Oct 7 OP
The price Johnny2X2X Oct 7 #1
Pretty sure the "price" is she doesn't release any more incriminating material Arazi Oct 7 #2
Yeah he is all in when it comes to blackmail.... .....and extortion.........but again there was a senate and court that turbinetree Oct 7 #3
Once she is released, TSF loses all leverage Seinan Sensei Oct 7 #7
Not necessarily. Disaffected Oct 7 #10
So, what she has is worth $billions Johnny2X2X Oct 7 #20
That is why you don't release all of the "data". Disaffected Oct 7 #23
Yeah he is all in when it comes to blackmail.... .....and extortion.........but again there was a senate and court that turbinetree Oct 7 #4
Trump is a Protestant Pope protecting horny pedophile priests. Or in Maxwell's case, horny priestess. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Oct 7 #5
If he does pardon her, the victims will explode and rightly so. vapor2 Oct 7 #6
If he does pardon Maxwell I think a class action suit by her victims would tie her up for the rest of her life. flashman13 Oct 7 #8
If they pardon Maxwell angrychair Oct 7 #9
Nah. Guarantee they'd still line up to eat his shit straight from the tap Orrex Oct 7 #12
Normally I would agree angrychair Oct 7 #13
They'll say that any named Democrats are guilty... Orrex Oct 7 #19
Fair enough angrychair Oct 7 #21
Me too! Orrex Oct 7 #22
I sadly agree. The maga orcs will believe absolutely any lie they are fed by their orange overlord LiberalLovinLug Oct 7 #16
Maybe he'll just fucking die Orrex Oct 7 #11
Do it Donny. Pardon her and P Diddy while you're at it. You're in charge! Just do it! Ray Bruns Oct 7 #14
Remember the expression IOKIYAR? How can a discussion like this be taking place without a torch-bearing mob..... FadedMullet Oct 7 #15
She'll have to turn over everything she has on him. flvegan Oct 7 #17
If he pardons her, he loses all leverage. Wiz Imp Oct 7 #18

Johnny2X2X

(23,504 posts)
1. The price
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 09:53 AM
Oct 7

So I don't think he'd pardon her for her silence, the price will be more than that. He'll only pardon her if she comes out publicly and exonerates him completely and maybe fabricates stuff about his enemies. I know she's said a few things on his behalf to get transferred to a cushy facilities, but a full pardon is going to take more.

Arazi

(8,431 posts)
2. Pretty sure the "price" is she doesn't release any more incriminating material
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 09:56 AM
Oct 7

He’ll take her deal and like it.

She has all the cards as he likes to say. Literally.

turbinetree

(26,638 posts)
3. Yeah he is all in when it comes to blackmail.... .....and extortion.........but again there was a senate and court that
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 10:01 AM
Oct 7

brought this shit show too where it is now..........and the media is failing in telling that fact about this .......everyday

Seinan Sensei

(1,193 posts)
7. Once she is released, TSF loses all leverage
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 10:33 AM
Oct 7

He cannot trust her to remain silent.
When she is released, she’s toast.
Tick tock, Ghis

Disaffected

(5,952 posts)
10. Not necessarily.
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 11:18 AM
Oct 7

I expect she would make sure to have a "deadman's" switch in place for "life insurance".

Johnny2X2X

(23,504 posts)
20. So, what she has is worth $billions
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 02:29 PM
Oct 7

If she has something like that. That's what Trump will want from her, all of her data. He could use blackmail data against his enemies and friends alike. Not to mention be able to destroy the child rape evidence against himself.

And he holds the cards, he can have her killed if she doesn't play ball.

Disaffected

(5,952 posts)
23. That is why you don't release all of the "data".
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 04:43 PM
Oct 7

You hold some, particularly incriminating info, to yourself with the arrangement it be released by a confederate if anything bad happens to you.

IIRC, Rudy Gouli alluded to something similar regards himself.

turbinetree

(26,638 posts)
4. Yeah he is all in when it comes to blackmail.... .....and extortion.........but again there was a senate and court that
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 10:01 AM
Oct 7

brought this shit show too where it is now..........and the media is failing in telling that fact about this .......everyday

flashman13

(1,646 posts)
8. If he does pardon Maxwell I think a class action suit by her victims would tie her up for the rest of her life.
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 10:42 AM
Oct 7

angrychair

(11,276 posts)
9. If they pardon Maxwell
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 10:54 AM
Oct 7

That would absolutely be a bridge to far for even many of them.
It will permanently fracture the Republican Party and likely put them in the wilderness for years to come.

Orrex

(66,186 posts)
12. Nah. Guarantee they'd still line up to eat his shit straight from the tap
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 11:49 AM
Oct 7

There is no “bridge too far” for them, because they’re a kkkult of ignorant racist fuckheads.

angrychair

(11,276 posts)
13. Normally I would agree
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 11:59 AM
Oct 7

But the Republicans made this monster and feed this monster. Absolutely sure that, in the end, Democrats wouldn't want to know what is in those files exposed to the world anymore than they do.

That was a huge miscalculation. I don't give a shit who is in those files, burn them to the ground. I'm not alone in that sentiment.
Honestly, i think at least 25% or more of their Party will permanently break. I even think it will have a material impact on House and Senate races.

Again, normally I would agree but the Epstein files is not politics as usual. It's a fixed object in the political land, that cannot be avoided or ignored. And Republicans only have themselves to blame for it

Orrex

(66,186 posts)
19. They'll say that any named Democrats are guilty...
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 02:04 PM
Oct 7

but any named Republicans are falsely incriminated.

That’s all the excuse they’d need. I’d love to believe that this will be the straw that breaks MAGA’s back, but it doesn’t seem likely to me.

angrychair

(11,276 posts)
21. Fair enough
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 03:23 PM
Oct 7

It's not that part of me doesn't agree with you. Not going to lie though I do hope I'm right and you are wrong

LiberalLovinLug

(14,525 posts)
16. I sadly agree. The maga orcs will believe absolutely any lie they are fed by their orange overlord
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 01:11 PM
Oct 7

"She was only Jeffery's girlfriend, she never participated in any actual crimes"
"She was working with the FBI to help take down Jeffery. (along with Trump)"
"She's a VICTIM of ruthless Democrats who are afraid she will spill the beans on prominent Democrats"

Then when she's out, and testifies that she hardly saw Mr. Trump on the island. And when he was it was only for business dealing. But also he was helping the FBI to help stop evil pedo Democrat friends of Jeffery.

FadedMullet

(537 posts)
15. Remember the expression IOKIYAR? How can a discussion like this be taking place without a torch-bearing mob.....
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 12:38 PM
Oct 7

Last edited Tue Oct 7, 2025, 03:26 PM - Edit history (1)

........surrounding Mar-a-Largo?

flvegan

(65,370 posts)
17. She'll have to turn over everything she has on him.
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 01:22 PM
Oct 7

She'll also have to turn over anyone in her camp that has kompromat and/or is acting as her deadman's switch. Even then, that will be a trust issue. Did she turn over everything? What does she have stashed away?

The other question is, does the Epstein child sex trafficking network need Maxwell. Does she serve a purpose should any of Epstein/DJT/the network's production centers get shut down? How does she make him future profits?

Remember that Tubby TuTone only cares about how a person or situation impacts him and him alone, and is always driven by greed.

Wiz Imp

(7,692 posts)
18. If he pardons her, he loses all leverage.
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 01:24 PM
Oct 7

Once free, what's to stop her from telling the truth about him then? Sure, he could impose "conditions" such as she has to keep her mouth shut, but once the pardon is granted, it can't be taken back. And any "agreement" that may have been made to keep her from talking would be blatantly illegal and thus unenforceable. I don't see how he can gain anything by pardoning her at this point.

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