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poli-junkie

(1,426 posts)
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 06:52 PM Oct 6

ICE-tapo: It's ethnic cleansing, folks!

Time to call it what this is. The indiscriminate assault, kidnapping and disappearing of non-criminal brown people is ethnic cleansing.

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ICE-tapo: It's ethnic cleansing, folks! (Original Post) poli-junkie Oct 6 OP
Genocide? JoseBalow Oct 6 #1
Hyperbole is not helpful. maxsolomon Oct 6 #2
I don't think the op said anything about genocide. As for B.See Oct 6 #3
Response 1 said Genocide. maxsolomon Oct 6 #4
Or maybe what's different is that Trump B.See Oct 6 #5
I completely agree that's what's different and I said as much. maxsolomon Tuesday #6
Based upon the Wikipedia link I provided, B.See Tuesday #7

maxsolomon

(37,538 posts)
2. Hyperbole is not helpful.
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 07:46 PM
Oct 6

Ethnic Cleansing has a specific definition. This isn't it.

ICE's raids, specifically on that apartment complex in Chicago where Citizens were pulled from their apartments and hogtied naked in the street, are an outrage - but they're not Ethnic Cleansing and they're not Genocide.

B.See

(6,978 posts)
3. I don't think the op said anything about genocide. As for
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 08:01 PM
Oct 6

ethnic cleansing, if people are being removed, persecuted, harassed, detained, arrested, deported on the basis of who they look like, then yeah, maybe it is.

Ethnic cleansing

maxsolomon

(37,538 posts)
4. Response 1 said Genocide.
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 08:29 PM
Oct 6

This is neither Genocide nor Ethnic Cleansing.

Just the 1st, simplest definition of Ethnic Cleansing in search results: the mass expulsion or killing of members of one ethnic or religious group in an area by those of another.

I should remind DU that the Biden Administration deported 271,000 people in 2024. Obama's Administration regularly deported over 300,000 a year. Deportations are normal. Deportations are not Ethnic Cleansing.

What's different now is the belligerance, the militarization, and racial profiling.

B.See

(6,978 posts)
5. Or maybe what's different is that Trump
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 08:39 PM
Oct 6

deliberately incites racist demagoguery, accused immigrants of eating the cats and the dogs, directed his Fascist goons to racially profile people, and sent his masked thugs and the military into cities with large minority populations under the bullshit auspices of fighting crime.

The Illinois State governor said that instead of 'fighting crime' they're just rounding up, harassing, and detaining Black and Brown people. His words, not mine.

So presumably the only people committing crime in Chicago are Black and Brown people.

maxsolomon

(37,538 posts)
6. I completely agree that's what's different and I said as much.
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 12:19 PM
Tuesday

I simply think "ethnic cleansing" is hyperbole.

B.See

(6,978 posts)
7. Based upon the Wikipedia link I provided,
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 05:27 PM
Tuesday

the nature of the rhetoric coming from Trump, Miller, Kirkers, and their proponents,

the actions taken by Trump's maladminístration, the attacks upon DEI, the disparate layoffs of minority government workers,

the assaults upon Black history and study while simultaneously reinstalling shrines to the Confederacy,

the mass removal and DISAPPEARANCE of immigrants of colour, including those LEGALLY here or dutifully engaged in the legal process of application,

COUPLED WITH the racist demonization of same, while SIMULTANEOUSLY WORKING to import white S. Afrikaners

and Trump's focus on disparaging, lying about, criminalizing communities of colour, to justify an armed INVASION and OCCUPATION,

I would respectfully disagree that a description of 'ethnic cleansing' is hyperbole - simply because the endgame hasn't yet been reached.

Imo, It has to do with INTENT.

And quite frankly, I think it captures (in a nutshell) the ESSENCE of their TRUE intent.

And I, for one, am disinclined to dismiss it as something less.

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