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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMrs. Betty Bowers: JD VANCE: "My mother got the drugs that almost killed her from Mexicans."
REALITY: JD's mother got the drugs that almost killed her from her hospital patients, whom she stole from.
JD VANCE: "My mother got the drugs that almost killed her from Mexicans."
— Mrs. Betty Bowers (@mrsbettybowers.bsky.social) 2025-10-05T00:05:00.246Z
REALITY: JD's mother got the drugs that almost killed her from her hospital patients, whom she stole from.

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(10,028 posts)SergeStorms
(19,823 posts)the only prerequisite to obtain employment in King-Kon's administration. 
Everything, and I mean every thing, is a lie.
AZJonnie
(1,983 posts)If, for example, she happened to OD after taking drugs she got on "the street", the statement could be true.
It is CERTAINLY a lie to say that "Mexicans" were responsible for her addiction (which is one reading of his words, but not the only one).  She already admitted she got hooked on opioids after starting on Rx'd pain pills, and then began stealing from hospitals where she worked, and then was eventually fired and lost her license.  BUT she also said that did not stop her using.  Ergo, it logically follows that it is possible (likely, in my experience) she was procuring drugs on the streets afterward.
These assholes are pretty good at CONVEYING lies without them being demonstrable, proven lies.  They use weasel words like these ALL THE TIME  
 
rampartd
(2,788 posts)their mo is to say whatever it takes for the media to deliver their message.
travelingthrulife
(3,662 posts)We make all sorts of illicit drugs in this country. How does he know the origin country?
AZJonnie
(1,983 posts)And those are not synonymous ideas  
 
I mean, to be clear, I think he's full of shit  But the meme in the OP has a logical flaw, e.g. it's a fallacious counter-argument.  That's really all I'm saying about it
   But the meme in the OP has a logical flaw, e.g. it's a fallacious counter-argument.  That's really all I'm saying about it  
 
sop
(16,661 posts)Mom wasn't responsible, she was a victim.
70sEraVet
(5,059 posts)But when it's GUNS, the manufacturers must be protected from lawsuits - after all, "guns don't kill people, people kill people"!
 
 
Marthe48
(22,176 posts)n/t
maxsolomon
(37,722 posts)All Mexicans don't deserve the blame for those that supplied a demand from American users.
JoseBalow
(8,859 posts) 
 soldierant
(9,094 posts)have (or did have) relatives who were killed (or almost killed) between 1943 and 1945 by blond white men.
TygrBright
(21,242 posts)AverageOldGuy
(3,111 posts)BurnDoubt
(1,172 posts)11 Bravo
(24,227 posts) 
 moniss
(8,267 posts)MorbidButterflyTat
(3,840 posts) 
   
  
GreenWave
(11,852 posts)Bowman, as in he will bow to his boss.
thomski64
(804 posts)Davenport...
Youre really showing your age my friend. I wonder how many of the younger DUers will make the association here. In any event, well done!
CTyankee
(67,444 posts)paleotn
(21,086 posts)He's proof that piles of shit sometimes fail upwards.
IbogaProject
(5,292 posts)Are all prone to lying, cheating, stealing and worse.
mgardener
(2,207 posts)She Got The Drugs.
They were not forced on her.
brakester
(494 posts)they weren't forced on her, maybe,
but as addiction goes, after that, she was a victim.
Hekate
(100,006 posts)The victims are the patients whose pain is not a trivial matter. I say this in the waiting period before knee-replacement  I have a high pain tolerance, but recently hit a tipping-point and experienced level 10 for a couple of days and nights. When I finally got it under control, it still remained high, exhausting, but below agony. We have others here at DU who live in a state of chronic very high-level pain all the time.
A person in a position of trust  doctor, nurse, PA, caregiver  who consigns their patients to intractable pain, is not the victim in this scenario.
lame54
(38,758 posts)eppur_se_muova
(40,446 posts)Hassler
(4,621 posts)Champp
(2,409 posts)According to my mother.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,557 posts)Did this actually happen, or is Mrs Bowers just skewering him?
rustbeltvoice
(471 posts)If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention, then thats what Im going to do.
There are many liars in the world, but this one tells you in advance, that he will lie anytime he wants.
Jilly_in_VA
(13,384 posts)How long do you have to spend in the confessional every week? Or do you have a friendly right-wing priest who just excuses everything? Maybe Uncle Clarence found one for you....
Ol Janx Spirit
(462 posts)...from Americans once her supply of drugs she could steal from patients ran out, but she just couldn't find a good made-in-America dealer--so she turned to Mexicans.  But if they hadn't been there then that would've been the end of the story?  She wouldn't have turned to the Hondurans or Guatemalans?  She wouldn't have looked to Canadians or some Asian source?
Let's help Shady make this an accurate statement:
My mother got the drugs that almost killed her from Mexicans because she was either failed by the support systems around her or she ignored them in a self-destructive quest to feed her own addicted mind and body.  She would have gotten them from wherever she could find them.
But by all means, offer up a scapegoat and justify violence against them.  That seems to be your addiction now doesn't it? 
Vinca
(52,930 posts)She probably needed them after she realized the offspring she'd produced.
twodogsbarking
(16,435 posts)twodogsbarking
(16,435 posts)vanlassie
(6,170 posts)Because he was drunk. 
Your mother put out the flames
How have you figured out your blame story for that one?  
Standard Oil??
Old Crow Whisky?
Your mother was fucked up by your Grandma, JD.  
airmid
(523 posts)I bought drugs from her frequently. Drugs she stole from the hospital and nursing homes she worked at. JD Vance is a shameless liar.
Cha
(315,369 posts) 
 Grins
(9,033 posts)It really bugs me when I see crap like this.
Curious about the context, I looked and looked to find the actual quote and date.  It wasn't easy.  All I got were repeats and repeats of this same comment. Finally - a better source.  Turns out it is from a 30-second campaign ad titled, "Are you a racist?"
Vance in that ad:
'Poison.' Not 'Mexicans nearly killed my mother.' So who changed the text to something completely different?
Vance made that ad for his senate run - in April of 2022! This is more than three years old! So why is it coming around again?
* As much as Vance and the Rethuglicans want to blame everything on Biden, his mother was stealing good old American-made drugs back when Clinton was president. Abuse of prescription opioids and heroin became long before Bush, Obama, and Biden. Fentanyl was the new kid on the block but not until 2012.





























