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Miles Archer

(20,495 posts)
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 06:12 AM Oct 6

PORTLAND. If Trump ignores BOTH judicial rulings, who will stop him? John Roberts? MAGAt Moses Mikey?

Federal judge temporarily blocks any deployment of National Guard to Portland

LET'S SAY HE JUST IGNORES THIS RULING, like he did with the first one.

CONGRESS won't do a DAMNED THING.

If Trump kicks the can to the SCOTUS, do we really think they will back the lower court rulings?

AND, if he JUST IGNORES IT and sends in troops ANYWAY, what are the consequences for him? Another 3 day weekend on the golf course at taxpayer expense?

I'm not seeing ANYTHING IN PLACE to STOP him if he just says "UP YOURS" and sends in troops.
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PORTLAND. If Trump ignores BOTH judicial rulings, who will stop him? John Roberts? MAGAt Moses Mikey? (Original Post) Miles Archer Oct 6 OP
The Oregon National Guard Renew Deal Oct 6 #1
You maybe right.. CentralMass Oct 6 #2
I am so tired of Trump Season 2 leftstreet Oct 6 #3
I hear you. Miles Archer Oct 6 #4
The General of the National Guard lame54 Oct 6 #5
It's up to the military now. At this point, such action should normally be considered an illegal order 0rganism Oct 6 #6
He didn't ignore the first one. The first order was limited to the Oregon National Guard. Ms. Toad Oct 6 #7

Miles Archer

(20,495 posts)
4. I hear you.
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 12:16 PM
Oct 6

We knew he'd be worse. So, mission accomplished.

I don't think I've witnessed anyone in my lifetime so hell-bent on being a complete prick.

And, he'll get progressively worse until he's stopped. It might come from 2016 or 2028 voters. It might be the natural progression of his own mortality.

I shake my head in disbelief over all of the pundits in his first term who predicted that he would "pivot" and "become presidential." Of course, that never happened.

And in 2025, I'm shaking my head again over all of the Trump voters who thought he'd only hurt libs and leave them standing.

Hard to believe we have three more years ahead of us, but every day is a new day. Anything can happen. He's not invincible and he's not immortal, even though his cult would have you believe otherwise.

0rganism

(25,354 posts)
6. It's up to the military now. At this point, such action should normally be considered an illegal order
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 02:35 PM
Oct 6

Some of the military will be happy to do it regardless, using whatever half-assed justification F47 comes up with. Some won't. We're about to find out if any allies remain.

Ms. Toad

(37,872 posts)
7. He didn't ignore the first one. The first order was limited to the Oregon National Guard.
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 02:47 PM
Oct 6

His attempt to send in the California National Guard forced the judge to expand her ruling.

It isn't Congress's business to enforce court orders.

Hard to tell what SCOTUS would do.

Until he asks for an emergency intervention, they decide whether to hear it, they decide the case, it's too son to speculate.

As for the troops, the court rulings remove any presumption that the orders to any state's National Guard to report to Portland are lawful - and shifts a lot of risk to individual troops, who are duty bound to refuse to follow unlawful orders.



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