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Celerity

(52,463 posts)
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 04:16 PM Oct 4

Trump: anybody burning the American Flag will be subject to one year in prison. You will be immediately arrested.



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Trump: anybody burning the American Flag will be subject to one year in prison. You will be immediately arrested. (Original Post) Celerity Oct 4 OP
Fuck him and the NAZI flag he;s supporting!! bluestarone Oct 4 #1
Well this is just great. Another freedom GONE!!!! Well wait a minute....WE ALL KNEW THIS WAS GONNA a kennedy Oct 4 #2
What if we burn drmeow Oct 4 #3
... Celerity Oct 4 #7
I will burn one ....just be ause i can !!!!!! U Trueblue1968 Oct 4 #39
How much time for groping a flag? newdeal2 Oct 4 #4
What is the penalty for burning an orange man flag? efhmc Oct 4 #5
This doesn't sound legal. nt intrepidity Oct 4 #6
The President is NOT a Lawmaker (that is Congress) Nictuku Oct 4 #13
It's only "legal" in Trump's dreams. sop Oct 4 #27
Pretty sure proper ceremonial flag burning still exists? MerryBlooms Oct 4 #8
Yup, our American Legion burns them once they become tattered or faded......in fact they have signs saying a kennedy Oct 4 #22
It does Jilly_in_VA Oct 4 #28
I can only assume the caller thought the best way to dispose of an unserviceable American flag Aristus Oct 4 #37
Hey Pedoman don't you have some 4-year-old kids to zip tie? Blue Owl Oct 4 #9
That's not even close to what the EO says. Ms. Toad Oct 4 #10
So Fatass is now ok with someone Chipper Chat Oct 4 #11
If a flag's condition violates U.S. flag code Oeditpus Rex Oct 4 #38
How about fucking a flag? Aviation Pro Oct 4 #12
Texas v Johnson UpInArms Oct 4 #14
Starting with their Dear Leader, MAGAts are blasted ignoramuses. But with the current SCofUS, UTUSN Oct 4 #15
I would certainly hope that the outcry from such a blatant act UpInArms Oct 4 #20
Not to mention the already blantant acts of dictator ruling by fiat, "executive" orders, commands, et al., UTUSN Oct 4 #35
I do think that UpInArms Oct 4 #48
I'm sure the current 6 Scurrilous Supremes can turn that over right quick Bayard Oct 4 #18
How about PISSING on the American Flag as TACO Don ProudMNDemocrat Oct 4 #16
Nobody is going to prison for burning the flag Fiendish Thingy Oct 4 #17
He's pissed cuz that sculpture went back up on the Mall in D.C. Attilatheblond Oct 4 #19
Burn the MAGA flag. Let them know we consider them the real enemy within. Efilroft Sul Oct 4 #21
How bout just flying them upside down all the time, he can't jail us for that can he??? a kennedy Oct 4 #23
I am more inclined to believe the people responsible for BlueKota Oct 4 #24
Memorandum from the Bureau of Prisons to Trump jmowreader Oct 4 #25
Says the guy who wipes his ass with the Constitution five time a day BeyondGeography Oct 4 #26
Not true Traildogbob Oct 4 #33
In Trump 1.0 it was Barr's job Celerity Oct 4 #40
😂😂😂😂😂😂 Traildogbob Oct 4 #42
+1 dalton99a Oct 4 #45
That's not how it works. He doesn't make laws. Scrivener7 Oct 4 #29
I've said for years Oeditpus Rex Oct 4 #30
"If you want a symbolic gesture, don't burn the flag; wash it." - Norman Thomas Journeyman Oct 4 #31
can i burn the Confederate Battle flag? DBoon Oct 4 #32
Sick pedofelon is such a laughably ridiculous tyrant. Justice matters. Oct 4 #34
Didn't realize this is how the govt works now ck4829 Oct 4 #36
Okay, fine. Burn Trump flags, instead. synni Oct 4 #41
ANYBODY CONVICTED OF 34 FELONIES BOSSHOG Oct 4 #43
Executive Orders are not criminal statutes CanonRay Oct 4 #44
"Flags are bits of colored cloth that governments use first to shrink-wrap people's minds Ping Tung Oct 4 #46
I'd like to steal and burn trump flags. But I don't want Ilsa Oct 4 #47
Now he's back in the 60s and early 70s again. travelingthrulife Oct 4 #49

a kennedy

(34,597 posts)
2. Well this is just great. Another freedom GONE!!!! Well wait a minute....WE ALL KNEW THIS WAS GONNA
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 04:21 PM
Oct 4

HAPPEN. HE’S A FREAKING DICTATOR!!!!!! 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬

a kennedy

(34,597 posts)
22. Yup, our American Legion burns them once they become tattered or faded......in fact they have signs saying
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 05:07 PM
Oct 4

they’ll despose of them patriotically. 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸

Jilly_in_VA

(13,258 posts)
28. It does
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 05:32 PM
Oct 4

Yet someone actually called the cops in Morristown TN because the Boy Scouts were ceremonially burning some old disreputable American flags. The cops told the caller off and said the Scouts were doing the right thing and had a permit to do it.

Aristus

(71,065 posts)
37. I can only assume the caller thought the best way to dispose of an unserviceable American flag
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 06:04 PM
Oct 4

is to throw it in the garbage, or bury it in a hole in the ground...



Ms. Toad

(37,855 posts)
10. That's not even close to what the EO says.
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 04:35 PM
Oct 4

If the flag is burned in a way that violates another criminal law, like open burning laws, the EO directs law enforcement to prosecute for the underlying law.

Believing his own Propaganda does not make it law.

Chipper Chat

(10,636 posts)
11. So Fatass is now ok with someone
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 04:37 PM
Oct 4

Who needs to dispose of an old flag with THROWING IT IN THE TRASH since he cannot burn it?????

Oeditpus Rex

(42,900 posts)
38. If a flag's condition violates U.S. flag code
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 06:09 PM
Oct 4

the owner is supposed to take it to an American Legion post, Boy Scout troop or other entity authorized to burn it "ceremoniously.".

How silly. I can burn it as well as they can, and even say a few words over it since ceremony seems to be their emtire point.

Let's see... "This was a good flag. It served its country well, just like the millons of other flags made in Taiwan sweat shops to represent the United States of America.

"I now commend this flag to a blaze of glory with this Bic lighter, also made in Taiwan, or China or some other country whose indentured servitude works to our advantage. USA!"

Aviation Pro

(14,896 posts)
12. How about fucking a flag?
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 04:40 PM
Oct 4

Like it’s your daughter or one of those underage enigmas, child rapist.

UpInArms

(53,539 posts)
14. Texas v Johnson
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 04:41 PM
Oct 4
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_v._Johnson

Texas v. Johnson, 491 U.S. 397 (1989), is a landmark decision by the Supreme Court of the United States in which the Court held, 5–4, that burning the flag of the United States was protected speech under the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, as doing so counts as symbolic speech and political speech.

Activist Gregory Lee Johnson was convicted for burning an American flag during a protest outside the 1984 Republican National Convention in Dallas, Texas, and was fined $2,000 and sentenced to one year in jail in accordance with Texas law. Justice William Brennan wrote for the five-justice majority that Johnson's flag burning was protected under freedom of speech, and therefore the state could not censor Johnson nor punish him for his actions.

The ruling invalidated laws against desecrating the American flag, which at the time were enforced in 48 of the 50 states. The ruling was unpopular with the general public and lawmakers, with President George H. W. Bush calling flag burning "dead wrong". The ruling was challenged by Congress, which passed the Flag Protection Act later that year, making flag desecration a federal crime. The law's constitutionality was contested before the Supreme Court, which again affirmed in United States v. Eichman (1990) that flag burning was a protected form of free speech and struck down the Flag Protection Act as violating the First Amendment. In the years following the ruling, Congress several times considered the Flag Desecration Amendment, which would have amended the U.S. Constitution to make flag burning illegal, but never passed it. The issue of flag burning remained controversial decades later, and it is still used as a form of protest.[2]

Time magazine described Texas v. Johnson as one of the best Supreme Court decisions since 1960,[3] with legal scholars since stating that "Freedom of speech applies to symbolic expression, such as displaying flags, burning flags, wearing armbands, burning crosses, and the like."[4]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_v._Johnson

Fuck him … and the horse he rode in on … he is not a king, he is a measly fat shriveled soul of a walking corpse

UTUSN

(76,004 posts)
15. Starting with their Dear Leader, MAGAts are blasted ignoramuses. But with the current SCofUS,
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 04:44 PM
Oct 4

disregarding precdedents, anything is possible.





UpInArms

(53,539 posts)
20. I would certainly hope that the outcry from such a blatant act
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 05:02 PM
Oct 4

would send everyone to the streets to stop the madness

UTUSN

(76,004 posts)
35. Not to mention the already blantant acts of dictator ruling by fiat, "executive" orders, commands, et al.,
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 05:57 PM
Oct 4

without reference to Congress, having his rats scurrying around to find loopholes everywhere that allow for ruling by Self.




ProudMNDemocrat

(20,308 posts)
16. How about PISSING on the American Flag as TACO Don
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 04:47 PM
Oct 4

Has done many times over.

Figuratively speaking.

Attilatheblond

(7,451 posts)
19. He's pissed cuz that sculpture went back up on the Mall in D.C.
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 05:00 PM
Oct 4

They did it the right way, got a permit to put it up and everything, The crime was taking it down. It's back and people are still demanding the Epstein Files be released, in full. His big meeting with the flag officers got him no applause. The economy is tanking and jobs numbers are worse than anticipated.

Not enough Venezuelan boats to blow up to sooth his ego. The People are not rioting like he thought they were so ICE thugs can' mow them down with machine guns. He just can't fill the empty black hole in what's left of his mind.

BlueKota

(4,685 posts)
24. I am more inclined to believe the people responsible for
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 05:11 PM
Oct 4

figuratively ripping apart the Constitution and stomping all over its shreds should be the ones jailed, but hey just my opinion.

jmowreader

(52,702 posts)
25. Memorandum from the Bureau of Prisons to Trump
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 05:13 PM
Oct 4

FM: Director, Federal Bureau of Prisons
TO: Donald J. Trump, President of the United States
RE: Prison Sentences for Flag Burners
DTG: 151200Z June 2026

Dear President Trump:
Please either rescind or amend your 2025 order that anyone caught burning a flag be sent to prison for a year.

It is traditional in the United States that Boy Scout, Girl Scout, Trail Life USA, American Heritage Girls, 4-H, Junior ROTC, Young Marines, and veterans' organizations conduct Retirement ceremonies for unserviceable United States flags. According to the United States Flag Code, Title 4 of the US Code, the retirement of an American flag is to be performed "preferably by burning."

On Memorial Day, your goon squads arrested so many little children and honorable veterans performing their patriotic duties that we had to let all the criminals out of jail so we could lock up ten-year-olds and Medal of Honor recipients.

This is inexcusable. Fix it NOW!

Traildogbob

(11,992 posts)
33. Not true
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 05:47 PM
Oct 4

He can not reach back there.
That is KKKaroLyin’s job, of course, using the constitution to do it.

Traildogbob

(11,992 posts)
42. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 06:27 PM
Oct 4

Now THAT’s the kind of stuff Dems need to post back at Trump and Beardo.
Just having fun, right, plus it’s factual. Soooooo many characters could be in the image replacing Barr, and all true.
Graham would have his arm up to his shoulders in there like a vet helping a breached calf get out. Trying to get out a stray head of other cabinet members. Homan and Miller go in and out easy with those cleanly circumcised shoulder dicks.

Oeditpus Rex

(42,900 posts)
30. I've said for years
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 05:37 PM
Oct 4

it's kind of ridiculous to burn a flag in protest when it's legal to do so. But if it were ever made illegal, burning one would be an apt protest. An executive order, though, does not automatically convey illegality, especially in a case like this that defies decades of Supreme Court decisions.

This would be a great test case with any other SCOTUS. I wouldn't trust this one to uphold precedence in something of a "monkey trial," though. Still, I wish I had the fortitude to face the consequences that might come from being the flag-burning defendant.

Journeyman

(15,395 posts)
31. "If you want a symbolic gesture, don't burn the flag; wash it." - Norman Thomas
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 05:40 PM
Oct 4

I can’t imagine how much that would flip the MAGAt's minds.

Justice matters.

(8,981 posts)
34. Sick pedofelon is such a laughably ridiculous tyrant.
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 05:52 PM
Oct 4

He thinks he can rule by fiat... while he has no idea whatever fiat he signs really means.

synni

(582 posts)
41. Okay, fine. Burn Trump flags, instead.
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 06:20 PM
Oct 4

Burn red MAGA hats. Burn Republican Party logos. Burn everything related to Trump and his minions, just as they're burning the Constitution.

Ping Tung

(3,848 posts)
46. "Flags are bits of colored cloth that governments use first to shrink-wrap people's minds
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 09:18 PM
Oct 4
“Flags are bits of colored cloth that governments use first to shrink-wrap people’s minds & then as ceremonial shrouds to bury the dead.”

― Arundhati Roy

Ilsa

(63,428 posts)
47. I'd like to steal and burn trump flags. But I don't want
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 09:29 PM
Oct 4

to create a vacuum whereby the owner buys more shitty trump flags. I suppose I could make a crappy trump flag and burn it.

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