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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(130,394 posts)
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 02:53 PM Sep 30

Mitt Romney reveals he personally urged Biden administration to preemptively pardon Donald Trump

Former Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney revealed Monday night that he called the White House during the Biden administration when Special Counsel Jack Smith was investigating Donald Trump to urge President Joe Biden to preemptively pardon him.

“I called a member of the White House, one of the senior advisers to President Biden. And I said, if the Justice Department decides to indict President Trump, I hope President Biden will immediately eliminate that, and that he will provide a pardon immediately. Why? Number one, I don’t want the anger and the hate and the vitriol. But number two: We just can’t begin to be prosecuting political opponents,” Romney said during a conversation with CNN’s Dana Bash at an event hosted by Drew University in Morristown, New Jersey.

“Pardoning at that point would have been a way to make that very clear,” added Romney.

“What did they say back to you?” asked Bash.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/mitt-romney-reveals-personally-urged-050939987.html

I'm glad they didn't

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Mitt Romney reveals he personally urged Biden administration to preemptively pardon Donald Trump (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 30 OP
Sounds like Mittens is hoping he isn't on Trumps Retribution List and if so he can get some amnesty Pachamama Sep 30 #1
Another Christian Nationalist travelingthrulife Sep 30 #2
Yes by all means pardon traitors and child rapists. Irish_Dem Sep 30 #3
yadda, yadda, yadda, it would have just embolden the fascists more, shut your yap rummy, we don't care what you said. nt ImNotGod Sep 30 #4
It would have been wrong for the country and politically fatal for Biden Renew Deal Sep 30 #5
Ford's pardoning of Nixon was outrageous enough, and led to the mess we have now. Ocelot II Sep 30 #6
That pardon is a significant part of the path that got us here. themaguffin Sep 30 #7
And Nixon was done as President exboyfil Sep 30 #20
Gerald Ford is saving a space beside him in hell UpInArms Sep 30 #8
"Peace in our time." BannonsLiver Sep 30 #9
Fucken mittens what a 5 star creep. It should be the opposite punish the highest ranks harder to make point. Blues Heron Sep 30 #10
Fuck Romney. sheshe2 Sep 30 #11
I agree with most of that, although... TommyT139 Sep 30 #16
Idiot. None of you entitled white guys ever learn from your mistakes. Baitball Blogger Sep 30 #12
Considering all the indictments, trials, convictions, etc., pursuing trump didn't help us. Think both Biden and Garland Silent Type Sep 30 #13
Prosecution was the right thing to do. We have never had a President try to violently overturn an election, on TV. SunSeeker Sep 30 #19
Unfortunately, didn't work for us, unless you believe trump would have won by 10 points without the indictments, etc. Silent Type Sep 30 #22
Ridiculous. Trump won the Popular vote by just 1.5% Wiz Imp Sep 30 #35
Also ridiculous. Silent Type Sep 30 #36
Not being able to complete those prosecutions is what cost us. SunSeeker Sep 30 #39
Relying on courts to determine election by convicting trump is the mistake, IMO. Silent Type Sep 30 #40
We were not using courts to "determine an election." We were trying to convict a criminal. SunSeeker Sep 30 #41
Sorry, we thought he would be eliminated by courts. The right wing talk is trying to convince people Silent Type Sep 30 #44
We thought he would be eliminated by the truth. Lies (and sexism and racism) won. SunSeeker Sep 30 #45
Tough for some to accept truth. Hope we don't run on retribution and payback because we'll lose again. Silent Type Sep 30 #47
Running on retribution worked for Trump. SunSeeker Sep 30 #49
OK. Still hope we don't run on retribution just because it worked for trump. Silent Type Sep 30 #50
Your hope will be fulfilled. We don't run on retribution. We will run on restoring the economy & rule of law. nt SunSeeker Sep 30 #54
Trump broke the law AZProgressive Sep 30 #48
Those Prosecutions RobinA Sep 30 #43
Pardoning Trump would NOT have gotten him "off the stage." SunSeeker Sep 30 #46
Really Mittens ??? really you coward RANDYWILDMAN Sep 30 #14
Rather naive to think a pardon would have dissipated the anger Raven123 Sep 30 #15
Romney, is living in the delusion of a government of genteel statesmen. progressoid Sep 30 #17
Trump committed numerous crimes. yardwork Sep 30 #18
Does he really think a pardon would have stopped badhair77 Sep 30 #21
Magical underwear madness. n/t rzemanfl Sep 30 #23
Akin To Charlie Kirk, Mitt Romney Is A Massive Piece Of Shit Y'all, Don't Let Anyone Tell Ya' Different! MayReasonRule Sep 30 #24
What does he have to say about Comey ? JI7 Sep 30 #25
Of course. Aristus Sep 30 #26
Not good enough. hamsterjill Sep 30 #27
Is he angling for a job in the orange turd administration ? kimbutgar Sep 30 #28
Why? ' Because I'm a coward' he says. C_U_L8R Sep 30 #29
Fuck off !!! We are suppose to be a country of laws. SamKnause Sep 30 #30
"Country of Laws" for the common folk Wednesdays Sep 30 #31
Attn Mitt Botany Sep 30 #32
Stepford Republican. twodogsbarking Sep 30 #33
We shouldn't have pardoned Nixon. swong19104 Sep 30 #34
I don't know what Romney's motive is for publicly revealing it now. Wiz Imp Sep 30 #37
Fuck yourself, Romney. Paladin Sep 30 #38
Trump was prosecuted for breaking MANY, MANY laws, Mitt, not for political opposition. tanyev Sep 30 #42
I wonder if the Mormon Church attack mercuryblues Sep 30 #51
If that would have kept him from running for president, ok. nilram Sep 30 #52
Maybe Romney is in the Epstein Files, then. Would make sense. flvegan Sep 30 #53
I think I'd be keeping that to myself, Mitt. 3catwoman3 Sep 30 #55
Indictments followed by pardons could have neutered Trump Buckeyeblue Oct 1 #56
Romney's trying to stay out of Trump's line of fire. He'd like to see Trump in jail as much as we would. Vinca Oct 1 #57

Pachamama

(17,518 posts)
1. Sounds like Mittens is hoping he isn't on Trumps Retribution List and if so he can get some amnesty
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 02:55 PM
Sep 30

Another coward

Irish_Dem

(77,149 posts)
3. Yes by all means pardon traitors and child rapists.
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 02:56 PM
Sep 30

And those destroying our country.

Damn cowards, all of them.

ImNotGod

(1,194 posts)
4. yadda, yadda, yadda, it would have just embolden the fascists more, shut your yap rummy, we don't care what you said. nt
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 02:57 PM
Sep 30

Renew Deal

(84,560 posts)
5. It would have been wrong for the country and politically fatal for Biden
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 02:58 PM
Sep 30

It would make it seem like there are no consequences for political corruption, and especially a coup attempt where they wanted to kill the VP.

Ocelot II

(128,042 posts)
6. Ford's pardoning of Nixon was outrageous enough, and led to the mess we have now.
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 02:59 PM
Sep 30

It also cost Ford the 1976 election. It would have been absolutely insane for Biden to pardon Trump, who is exponentially worse than Nixon, and would have destroyed Biden's reputation and legacy for all eternity.

Blues Heron

(7,956 posts)
10. Fucken mittens what a 5 star creep. It should be the opposite punish the highest ranks harder to make point.
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 03:08 PM
Sep 30

What you don’t do is let them off the hook, that’s puke fucking values, dirty fucking puke values. The dregs of humanity, with a fucking haircut and suit.

sheshe2

(94,661 posts)
11. Fuck Romney.
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 03:11 PM
Sep 30

He sucked as our Gov. Sucked as a Prez Candidate, sucked as a Senator and he sucked as a dog owner!

The story of Mitt Romney’s dog keeps rearing its ugly head. Now video has emerged of the 1983 incident in which Romney put his dog in a crate and tied it to the roof of his car for a 12-hour journey to Canada.

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The story of Mitt Romney’s dog keeps rearing its ugly head. Now video has emerged of the 1983 incident in which Romney put his dog in a crate and tied it to the roof of his car for a 12-hour journey to Canada.



https://www.businessinsider.com/we-have-video-of-mitt-romney-tying-his-dog-to-the-roof-of-his-car-2012-2


TommyT139

(2,034 posts)
16. I agree with most of that, although...
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 03:16 PM
Sep 30

Romney setting up MassHealth was somewhat of a model for the Affordable Care Act.

He still goes to Hell for abusing his dog, though. Animal abuse deserves the death penalty.

Baitball Blogger

(51,338 posts)
12. Idiot. None of you entitled white guys ever learn from your mistakes.
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 03:11 PM
Sep 30

You all just double down on your bad behavior and enhance our suffering as a nation.

Silent Type

(11,733 posts)
13. Considering all the indictments, trials, convictions, etc., pursuing trump didn't help us. Think both Biden and Garland
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 03:13 PM
Sep 30

knew it would be a chitshow.

SunSeeker

(57,088 posts)
19. Prosecution was the right thing to do. We have never had a President try to violently overturn an election, on TV.
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 03:27 PM
Sep 30

Sadly, the Supreme Court delayed the cases and gave Trump immunity, sabotaging the prosecution. There should have been a trial and it should have been televised.

Silent Type

(11,733 posts)
22. Unfortunately, didn't work for us, unless you believe trump would have won by 10 points without the indictments, etc.
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 03:32 PM
Sep 30

Wiz Imp

(7,852 posts)
35. Ridiculous. Trump won the Popular vote by just 1.5%
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 05:50 PM
Sep 30

So realistically, you only need to think he would have won by 1.6% or more if not for the indictments. And it is not unreasonable to believe that at all.

SunSeeker

(57,088 posts)
39. Not being able to complete those prosecutions is what cost us.
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 06:00 PM
Sep 30

That and 49.5% of Americans couldn't bring themselves to vote for a woman of color.

SunSeeker

(57,088 posts)
41. We were not using courts to "determine an election." We were trying to convict a criminal.
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 06:10 PM
Sep 30

Please take your right wing talking points elsewhere.

Silent Type

(11,733 posts)
44. Sorry, we thought he would be eliminated by courts. The right wing talk is trying to convince people
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 06:43 PM
Sep 30

we didn’t lose. Biden and Garland were likely right.

SunSeeker

(57,088 posts)
45. We thought he would be eliminated by the truth. Lies (and sexism and racism) won.
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 06:55 PM
Sep 30

Pushing the lie that Trump’s prosecutions were political is right wing talk.

Silent Type

(11,733 posts)
47. Tough for some to accept truth. Hope we don't run on retribution and payback because we'll lose again.
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 07:09 PM
Sep 30

SunSeeker

(57,088 posts)
49. Running on retribution worked for Trump.
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 09:32 PM
Sep 30

But we will not run on retribution and never have. Democrats run to make life better for the American people, not for personal vendettas.

SunSeeker

(57,088 posts)
54. Your hope will be fulfilled. We don't run on retribution. We will run on restoring the economy & rule of law. nt
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 11:09 PM
Sep 30

AZProgressive

(29,762 posts)
48. Trump broke the law
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 07:12 PM
Sep 30

I don't think elections should have anything to do whether Trump or anyone commits a crime. If it comes to anyone else a jury may not find a person guilty the prosecutor should pursue charges if they have enough evidence. Same with Trump but with Trump he would have at least been found guilty in the federal cases. Don't know enough about the Georgia case but the grand jury in Arizona wanted to indict Trump but the prosecutors there begged them not to which I think was a mistake.

Those outside of the swing states may not care much about Trump's crimes or maybe even people in swing states don't care that much but the Republicans contested Arizona's electoral votes for Biden at the moment the Jan 6 rioters entered the Capitol.

I think the mistake was not electing Harris so the cases against Trump could move forward and he would have likely received guilty verdicts.

RobinA

(10,453 posts)
43. Those Prosecutions
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 06:38 PM
Sep 30

were never going to be completed before the election. Law doesn't work that fast.

I agree with Romney and I agreed with Ford. Get those turds off the stage where they can't do much damage. We may have gotten away without the Presidential immunity bestowed by the supreme court.

SunSeeker

(57,088 posts)
46. Pardoning Trump would NOT have gotten him "off the stage."
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 07:01 PM
Sep 30

It would have been seen as an admission that they were political prosecutions. Trump would have won by even more than he did.

RANDYWILDMAN

(3,105 posts)
14. Really Mittens ??? really you coward
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 03:14 PM
Sep 30

and this guy was the Repub nominee (which tells you everything about the Party of orange menace )

Why don't you go appease at a Trump rally and see how far that gets you

yardwork

(68,439 posts)
18. Trump committed numerous crimes.
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 03:24 PM
Sep 30

It wasn't a politically motivated prosecution.

Romney is useless.

badhair77

(5,045 posts)
21. Does he really think a pardon would have stopped
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 03:29 PM
Sep 30

trump from going after his enemies? Not likely. Seems like he’s providing cover for himself.

MayReasonRule

(3,945 posts)
24. Akin To Charlie Kirk, Mitt Romney Is A Massive Piece Of Shit Y'all, Don't Let Anyone Tell Ya' Different!
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 03:33 PM
Sep 30

JI7

(92,890 posts)
25. What does he have to say about Comey ?
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 03:42 PM
Sep 30

We just can’t begin to be prosecuting political opponents,” Romney said 

Aristus

(71,216 posts)
26. Of course.
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 03:46 PM
Sep 30

The billionaire assholes are going to hand-job each other. No surprise there.

I would have thought a Mormon might at least have done a head-fake in the direction of decency. But I guess not.

hamsterjill

(16,685 posts)
27. Not good enough.
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 03:54 PM
Sep 30

This is not a situation where Biden would have been prosecuting a political opponent. This was a situation where a person in power used that power to try to overthrow the government. That is treason. Trump should have been held fully accountable then and he still needs to be held accountable now.

Botany

(75,731 posts)
32. Attn Mitt
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 05:40 PM
Sep 30

We executed 2 people who did what Trump did with those documents (the Rosenbergs) and
a former FBI agent called Robert Hansen just died in the U.S. super max prison in Colorado
for doing what Trump did.

*************

https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/she-won-part-ii-seven-judges-direct

Just seven days after Trump lost the 2020 election to President Joe Biden, the Senate rammed through Judge Aileen Cannon—a Federalist Society loyalist—to the federal bench, again via the nuclear option. The seat? It would later oversee Trump’s classified documents case.

Think about that. Before he even walked out of the White House with stolen materials and a failed insurrection attempt, Donald Trump had already secured the judge who would protect him. He wasn't just breaking the law—he was fortifying his legal escape route in advance, with an assist from Senate Republicans.

swong19104

(550 posts)
34. We shouldn't have pardoned Nixon.
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 05:47 PM
Sep 30

And we’re sure as fuck shouldn’t pardon Trump. The whole lot of the GOP should take their last breaths at the gallows, including Romney. Traitors all.

Wiz Imp

(7,852 posts)
37. I don't know what Romney's motive is for publicly revealing it now.
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 05:54 PM
Sep 30

I'm pretty sure he's not really stupid enough to believe what he said. It's obvious to even most MAGAs (who are dumb as rocks) that Trump was going to go after his perceived enemies whether he was pardoned or not.

Paladin

(31,857 posts)
38. Fuck yourself, Romney.
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 05:56 PM
Sep 30

And profound thanks to the Biden team, for rejecting this idiocy. The last thing in the world that trump is worthy of is softer treatment.

tanyev

(48,194 posts)
42. Trump was prosecuted for breaking MANY, MANY laws, Mitt, not for political opposition.
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 06:11 PM
Sep 30

Throwing in the towel on that White Horse prophecy of saving the nation, Mitt?

mercuryblues

(15,968 posts)
51. I wonder if the Mormon Church attack
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 10:10 PM
Sep 30

by a MagaT has him running scared of retribution from the pumpkin head's cult members.

nilram

(3,410 posts)
52. If that would have kept him from running for president, ok.
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 10:11 PM
Sep 30

But there would have been no way to know that.

flvegan

(65,426 posts)
53. Maybe Romney is in the Epstein Files, then. Would make sense.
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 10:50 PM
Sep 30

I'm not accusing, I'm just asking questions here.

Buckeyeblue

(6,074 posts)
56. Indictments followed by pardons could have neutered Trump
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 07:38 AM
Oct 1

Biden could have explained to the American people what Trump did, what the evidence was and then issued a pardon. He could have said he was doing it to heal the country.

Would it have made any difference? I don't know.

A bigger difference maker would have been for Biden to have announced that he wasn't running for a second term in the fall of 2023. But we've been through that.

Vinca

(52,940 posts)
57. Romney's trying to stay out of Trump's line of fire. He'd like to see Trump in jail as much as we would.
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 07:50 AM
Oct 1
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