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Chasstev365

(6,940 posts)
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 06:48 PM Sep 2025

A red flag in something JB Pritzker said:

Pritzker:

"We have reason to believe that the Trump administration has already begun staging the Texas National Guard for deployment in Illinois," Pritzker said."

How can unrequested National Guard troops being from one state to another by a president possibly legal?

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A red flag in something JB Pritzker said: (Original Post) Chasstev365 Sep 2025 OP
We know Texan males tend to wear big hats to compensate for ____________. Irish_Dem Sep 2025 #1
Beers, Steers & Queers ZDU Sep 2025 #2
Reason everything is bigger in texass! mwmisses4289 Sep 2025 #3
When did legality have anything to do with Trump or the National Guard? RockRaven Sep 2025 #4
A plot requires plotting. No red flag, TACO is not ad libbing regardless how stupid, illegal, unconstitutional ... marble falls Sep 2025 #5
Invasion should be met with deadly force. TommyT139 Sep 2025 #6
That would be an invasion Arazi Sep 2025 #7
Malcolm Nance said stop comparing this to the rise of the Nazis. Start comparing it to the occupation Scrivener7 Sep 2025 #8
Blockade the bridges over the Mississippi and Ohio rivers. roamer65 Sep 2025 #9
Oh, that's good! Chasstev365 Sep 2025 #10
Having Ben in the Texas National Guard many years ago, I've never heard of such... ashredux Sep 2025 #11
Isn't Texas more Democrat? KentuckyWoman Sep 2025 #12
No. LeftInTX Sep 2025 #23
Governors from multiple states sent NG to DC. Frasier Balzov Sep 2025 #13
DC is a Federal district. Illinois is a sovereign state. CanonRay Sep 2025 #14
If Texas invades Illinois Frasier Balzov Sep 2025 #15
I could see Pritzker blockading the bridges CanonRay Sep 2025 #17
I think that legally it's Congress that needs to request a deployment in DC AdamGG Sep 2025 #16
Under the Home Rule Act James48 Sep 2025 #19
Trump is pushing for a red state to invade a blue state. hadEnuf Sep 2025 #18
I don't think National Gaurd Troops serving in other sates is unprecidented. Gore1FL Sep 2025 #20
Doesn't the governor request them though? LeftInTX Sep 2025 #24
FWIW: A spokesperson for Texas Gov. Greg Abbott said that Texas "is not preparing to deploy troops to Illinois," ... mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2025 #21
I have more faith in Pritzker misanthrope Sep 2025 #22

RockRaven

(18,581 posts)
4. When did legality have anything to do with Trump or the National Guard?
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 07:05 PM
Sep 2025

Laws are tools for the powerful to use to hurt powerless, not to be bound by themselves.

marble falls

(70,170 posts)
5. A plot requires plotting. No red flag, TACO is not ad libbing regardless how stupid, illegal, unconstitutional ...
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 07:11 PM
Sep 2025

... his plots and plottings are.

Arazi

(8,675 posts)
7. That would be an invasion
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 07:30 PM
Sep 2025

And every Dem should phrase it like that.

“Illinois has been invaded by Texas armed forces”

Scrivener7

(58,042 posts)
8. Malcolm Nance said stop comparing this to the rise of the Nazis. Start comparing it to the occupation
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 07:49 PM
Sep 2025

of New York in 1775 when suddenly residents were forced to put British soldiers up in their homes, and the soldiers were everywhere on the streets preparing to fight the residents. And then they did.

We should compare it to that because we're close to that.

roamer65

(37,813 posts)
9. Blockade the bridges over the Mississippi and Ohio rivers.
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 07:54 PM
Sep 2025

That will help prevent heavy equipment from entry into Illinois.

KentuckyWoman

(7,365 posts)
12. Isn't Texas more Democrat?
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 08:12 PM
Sep 2025

Isn't that why they have to rig the vote? Fair maps would sink the Repyblicans in Texas. Well, most states.

Frasier Balzov

(4,785 posts)
13. Governors from multiple states sent NG to DC.
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 08:15 PM
Sep 2025

Is a Presidential activation even being used in the case of Illinois?

It could just be an unlawful invasion by Trump-friendly states.

With the federal government being the only authority with the power to stop it.

Which it won't.

Frasier Balzov

(4,785 posts)
15. If Texas invades Illinois
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 08:50 PM
Sep 2025

does Illinois shoot at them?

I think not.

And if Trump hasn't formally activated anyone, is he in violation of the Court's ruling In Re Los Angeles?

AdamGG

(1,859 posts)
16. I think that legally it's Congress that needs to request a deployment in DC
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 08:54 PM
Sep 2025

It's not supposed to be something that the President alone can do. But, this Congress and this SCOTUS are absent in their duties to preserve constitutional checks and balances.

James48

(5,074 posts)
19. Under the Home Rule Act
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 09:23 PM
Sep 2025

He can become emergency manager for a period up to 30 days.

If Comgress authorizes, it can be longer. But so far, neither House nor Senate have taken up a bill to extend DC military past the 30th day, which would be September 8, isn’t it?

hadEnuf

(3,498 posts)
18. Trump is pushing for a red state to invade a blue state.
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 09:01 PM
Sep 2025

That should give the southern civil war morons wet dreams.

This is symbolic. The red states are practically Confederate at this point and Trump is stroking that to the hilt.

Gore1FL

(22,805 posts)
20. I don't think National Gaurd Troops serving in other sates is unprecidented.
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 09:45 PM
Sep 2025

It's their use as shock troops againsts U.S. citizens that's unique. In this instance, it isn't their origins that concern me.

mahatmakanejeeves

(67,909 posts)
21. FWIW: A spokesperson for Texas Gov. Greg Abbott said that Texas "is not preparing to deploy troops to Illinois," ...
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 10:04 PM
Sep 2025
Anna Bower
‪@annabower.bsky.social‬

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FWIW: A spokesperson for Texas Gov. Greg Abbott said that Texas “is not preparing to deploy troops to Illinois,” per the Austin American-Statesman.

https://www.statesman.com/politics/texas/article/national-guard-chicago-abbott-21027479.php

Gov. Greg Abbott's office disputed a claim from Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker on Tuesday that the Texas National Guard was preparing to deploy to his state as part of a law and order crackdown by the Trump administration.
Texas is not preparing to deploy troops to Illinois, a spokesman for Abbott said on
Tuesday afternoon.
ALT

‪Anna Bower‬
‪@annabower.bsky.social‬
· 5h
If it’s under Title 32 authority, the Texas guard remains under state control.

That would mean that one state is deploying armed forces into the territory of a non-consenting state.

And that’d clearly be a violation of the principle that states are co-equal, territorially limited sovereigns.
September 2, 2025 at 10:18 PM



Anna Bower
‪@annabower.bsky.social‬

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If it’s under Title 32 authority, the Texas guard remains under state control.

That would mean that one state is deploying armed forces into the territory of a non-consenting state.

And that’d clearly be a violation of the principle that states are co-equal, territorially limited sovereigns.

‪Quinta Jurecic‬
‪@qjurecic.bsky.social‬
· 6h
this is almost certainly under Title 32 authorities (meaning the TX guard will be nominally under TX state control but on a federal mission), meaning the posse comitatus issues that came up in California will not apply. that said, it raises a whole lot of other legal problems
September 2, 2025 at 5:50 PM

If it’s under Title 32 authority, the Texas guard remains under state control.

That would mean that one state is deploying armed forces into the territory of a non-consenting state.

And that’d clearly be a violation of the principle that states are co-equal, territorially limited sovereigns.

Anna Bower (@annabower.bsky.social) 2025-09-02T21:50:11.280Z
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