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In It to Win It

(11,231 posts)
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 11:00 PM Tuesday

Voters See Dems as More Corrupt Than Republicans Despite Trump's Grifting - Rolling Stone

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-democrats-more-corrupt-than-republicans-poll-1235396092/

Archived: https://archive.ph/CN4bN

On Tuesday morning, the White House posted a livestream of the “Grand Opening Ceremony” of his newest golf club, Trump International Golf Links in Aberdeen, Scotland, on X — the latest in a long line of recent examples of Donald Trump using his public office for personal profit, with U.S. taxpayers covering the bill.

Yet, somehow, even in an era of presidential meme coins and library fund shakedowns, voters in the critical congressional districts see Democrats as the corrupt ones.

Impact Research — the exalted Democratic pollster used by the presidential campaigns of Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama as well as the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, the Democratic Senate Campaign Committee, and the Democratic Governors Association — is out with new research likely to turn the stomachs of the firm’s current and former clients.

The survey of frontline congressional districts, conducted on behalf of the liberal watchdog End Citizens United and shared exclusively with Rolling Stone, found that, across these districts, voters see Democrats as more corrupt than Republicans.

In a rage-blackout-inducing twist, the polling also found that, despite the staggering, previously unfathomable scale of corruption that Trump has brazenly engaged in since re-taking office, the president’s rating on corruption runs eight points ahead of his approval number in the districts surveyed.
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Voters See Dems as More Corrupt Than Republicans Despite Trump's Grifting - Rolling Stone (Original Post) In It to Win It Tuesday OP
Thank You Fox and 10-1 Hate Radio Chasstev365 Tuesday #1
Voters are idiots edhopper Tuesday #2
More facts about how incredibly stupid a large segment of the voting public are. NoMoreRepugs Tuesday #3
I want to see the survey... all of the data because this doesn't add up. nt Phoenix61 Tuesday #4
The dumbing down of education in America began decades ago and it is bearing fruit. Solly Mack Tuesday #5
Truth! I cant believe the number of kids whose reading is below where it should be... Mark.b2 Yesterday #17
We're fucked but maybe history will repeat like Hitler, Mussolini and the chicoescuela Tuesday #6
Would be interesting to hear where respondents get their "news." TikTok? emulatorloo Tuesday #7
'Voters' have no idea what's happening. elleng Tuesday #8
I recently watched a documentary about Dark Money on HBO AZProgressive Tuesday #9
Then it's hopeless. DavidDvorkin Tuesday #10
I do blame lack of Dem strategy against Republican corruption. blm Tuesday #11
Bad things about Democrats. W_HAMILTON Tuesday #12
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Yesterday #13
America's democracy has ended. It will be up to the rest of the world to proceed with civilization now. 0rganism Yesterday #14
Im skeptical about the data. oldmanlynn Yesterday #15
Ive been beating this drum for decades Cosmocat Yesterday #16
There's no proactive strategy still newdeal2 Yesterday #18
Correct - this is the one true fault dems have Cosmocat 21 hrs ago #21
The rich people who want to be oligarchs bought all the media Mysterian Yesterday #19
Bad and Dire "News" MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #20
Can't find this poll, but here's what Impact Research wrote for End Citizens United on May 1 muriel_volestrangler 19 hrs ago #22

Solly Mack

(95,376 posts)
5. The dumbing down of education in America began decades ago and it is bearing fruit.
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 11:13 PM
Tuesday

Rotten fruit.

Mark.b2

(590 posts)
17. Truth! I cant believe the number of kids whose reading is below where it should be...
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 12:30 AM
Yesterday

I sometimes wonder what kids are doing all day at school.

I have 12 nieces and nephews ranging in age from 7 to 19. I dont know if theyre representative or not, but the ones who are smart are very smart (four of them), and the ones who arent, well…they get by, I suppose. There doesnt seem to be any who are fair to middlin’. The ones you’d expect to be in the meaty part of the bell curve.

What annoys me most is how incurious they are about basically everything. And you can forget anything civics-related! I found myself at the kiddie table at Christmas, and I was quizzing them about who our governor, Senators, Representatives and other politicians. Only a couple of them could name some of them. (sigh)

chicoescuela

(2,153 posts)
6. We're fucked but maybe history will repeat like Hitler, Mussolini and the
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 11:13 PM
Tuesday

French Revolution. It won’t be the ‘radical’ that overtakes tsf it will be a bunch of chumps wearing MAGA hats.

AZProgressive

(29,704 posts)
9. I recently watched a documentary about Dark Money on HBO
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 11:21 PM
Tuesday

There are two episodes but one is about Ohio Republicans which shows how corrupt they are though a lot of the corruption is technically legal thanks to Citizens United. The fact they dedicated an entire 1 hour and a half documentary to a state Republican party still shows that Democrats are nowhere near being as corrupt as Republicans with a few exceptions like Menendez & Eric Adams but overall the Republicans are a lot more corrupt than Democrats.

blm

(114,256 posts)
11. I do blame lack of Dem strategy against Republican corruption.
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 11:55 PM
Tuesday

In 2006 I posted often here that ‘corruption’ of Bush WH was becoming obvious to American voters. The pundits were surprised in Nov when corruption was the number one issue to voters in exit polling.

Develop an anti-corruption strategy and swarm the airwaves for the next 16 months.

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0rganism

(25,259 posts)
14. America's democracy has ended. It will be up to the rest of the world to proceed with civilization now.
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 12:03 AM
Yesterday

We failed, I hope other countries can find a way to do better with government despite the mess the biosphere now faces.

oldmanlynn

(697 posts)
15. Im skeptical about the data.
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 12:07 AM
Yesterday

It’s extremely obvious that Republicans are involved in more corruption yet voters see completely opposite? I think there’s some data skew here.

Cosmocat

(15,218 posts)
16. Ive been beating this drum for decades
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 12:13 AM
Yesterday

Republicans spend 24 hours a day negatively framing Dems/Libs, 99% distortions or flat lies, while Dems can't bring themselves to hit Republicans on their actual bad actions.

This has always impacted the way the country thinks about liberals and dems.

But, now w DT and maga its an absolute firehouse every waking second ...

newdeal2

(3,465 posts)
18. There's no proactive strategy still
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 12:34 AM
Yesterday

People in leadership have been asleep at the wheel for way too long (maybe 10-15 years) with no central themes or messaging that break through. Republicans have successfully painted a distorted picture of Democrats and it's working in their favor.

Cosmocat

(15,218 posts)
21. Correct - this is the one true fault dems have
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 12:47 PM
21 hrs ago

They just have never been able to focus on united messaging at all, but again, there is SO much they can justifiably hit Rs on and they don't even bother.

Mysterian

(5,797 posts)
19. The rich people who want to be oligarchs bought all the media
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 12:35 AM
Yesterday

There is nothing but right-wing propaganda everywhere in the U.S. media.

muriel_volestrangler

(104,222 posts)
22. Can't find this poll, but here's what Impact Research wrote for End Citizens United on May 1
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 02:42 PM
19 hrs ago

from focus groups:

https://www.endcitizensunited.org/impact-research

(I can only see their .jpg images, nothing copyable). Amazingly, their first recommendation is "Keep the focus on Congress, rather than Trump or Elon" (written before the break-up, of course). Apparently, the focus groups are dumb enough to have fallen for "drain the swamp", and see Trump as an "outsider". His extensive history of corruption and bribery, via his DC hotel, for instance, means little to uninformed voters, or his conviction for falsifying his business records.

Me, I'd say "shout about the obvious corruption in the Trump family - and by all means say the Republicans in Congress are complicit in supporting him. Call out any individual Republicans who are corrupt too."

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