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Nittersing

(7,428 posts)
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 04:50 PM Tuesday

Scientists think they found two key bacteria that cause multiple sclerosis

https://www.earth.com/news/scientists-think-they-found-two-key-bacteria-that-cause-multiple-sclerosis/

"For decades scientists have combed the gut looking for bacteria in the microbiome that push the immune system toward multiple sclerosis (MS). New evidence from a rare twin study now points a clear finger at two species of bacteria that hide in the small intestine.

The study, which compared 81 pairs of genetically identical siblings, singled out Eisenbergiella tayi and Lachnoclostridium as the most likely triggers of the nerve‑damaging disorder.

Dr. Anna Peters of Ludwig Maximilian University of Munich steered the international team that linked these bacteria to disease in both people and mice.

Tracing clues in identical twins
Identical twins share nearly every gene, so differences in health are often related to outside factors. By focusing on twins where only one sibling had MS, the researchers stripped away much genetic noise."



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Scientists think they found two key bacteria that cause multiple sclerosis (Original Post) Nittersing Tuesday OP
Wow. I really thought MS was genetic. ananda Tuesday #1
I did as well radical noodle Tuesday #10
It could be that it's partially genetic cannabis_flower Tuesday #11
It would be awesome to learn that's the case radical noodle Tuesday #26
Tes, but don't most families eat together, at least soldierant Tuesday #21
Not necessarily radical noodle Tuesday #27
Many believe environmental factors are involved womanofthehills Tuesday #17
I believe it has a genetic component, but there are other risk factors. TrollBuster9090 Tuesday #18
Thanks. My dad had an interesting RH factor anomaly. ananda Tuesday #23
If this is accurate, amazing harumph Tuesday #2
This would be an incredible finding if their is a andidote to these bacteria. erronis Tuesday #3
thanks for posting! ClaudetteCC Tuesday #4
fascinating - but what about Epstein-Barr virus? electron_blue Tuesday #5
Release the Epstein-Barr files ! nt eppur_se_muova Tuesday #6
OK. That was funny. Nittersing Tuesday #7
Kind of sucks to have a last name that matches one the worst pedos wolfie001 Tuesday #12
. Hassin Bin Sober Tuesday #24
Here lately, when they say "scientists found" angrychair Tuesday #8
Piece of shit kennedy has set us back decades wolfie001 Tuesday #13
Good. CAn we test them out on RFK Jr? mercuryblues Tuesday #9
In that case: Thank heaven for identical twins! This is great news! BComplex Tuesday #14
Interesting ProfessorGAC Tuesday #15
Oh! That could be true, couldn't it? Nittersing Tuesday #22
Wow, Good Luck and Keep Researching! electric_blue68 Tuesday #16
I've been on DU for years, and this is definitely a FIRST! Thanks for the find! TrollBuster9090 Tuesday #19
Terrific finding! WestMichRad Tuesday #20
Very interesting, indeed. I've lived with MS for 15 years now, looks like this could really improve the situation 0rganism Tuesday #25

soldierant

(8,774 posts)
21. Tes, but don't most families eat together, at least
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 07:52 PM
Tuesday

for large chunks of their lives? I don't know how else these bacteria would get into the small intestine.

womanofthehills

(10,065 posts)
17. Many believe environmental factors are involved
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 07:34 PM
Tuesday

Many toxins (and viruses)
effect the central nervous system. Lots of autoimmune disorders out there now.

TrollBuster9090

(6,077 posts)
18. I believe it has a genetic component, but there are other risk factors.
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 07:37 PM
Tuesday

You inherit a certain combination of gene alleles, which gives you a genetic predisposition to develop MS. But what triggers it (ie-environmental factors) has long been a mystery. At one time they thought it was exposure to pesticides. Now it appears that having certain bacteria in your gut microbiome is a risk factor. And those bacteria got there as a result of what you've been eating.

Interesting stuff!
By the way, something that I always thought was funny regarding medical genetic research. Looking at sets of identical twins has always been the 'Holy grail' for these kinds of studies. If you have an identical twin, you'll be hounded by scientists for your entire life to volunteer for studies.

Another funny thing about medical genetic research is that Salt Lake City Utah was always the Mecca of genetic research. Mainly because the Mormons practiced polygamy. And, to avoid accidentally marrying your second cousin, the Mormons kept extremely detailed family trees (pedigrees). Those are great for identifying diseases with a genetic component. For all the trash talking people do about Mormons, we owe them a debt of gratitude. A huge chunk of what we know about diseases with genetic components came from the Mormons volunteering their family pedigrees for genetic research.

ananda

(32,659 posts)
23. Thanks. My dad had an interesting RH factor anomaly.
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 09:16 PM
Tuesday

Most of the time he was type O positive.

But every now and then it would shift to O negative.

When my younger sister was born, she had an RH
difficulty that completely baffled the doctors because
she was the sixth child and none of the ones before
her had it.

So they paid my dad to study his blood and that's
what they found.

Life can be very strange sometimes.

erronis

(20,759 posts)
3. This would be an incredible finding if their is a andidote to these bacteria.
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 05:57 PM
Tuesday

So many people around the world are debilitated (and die) from this disease.

I imagine that other diseases would also be able to be traced to our guts (and skin/mouth/etc.).

ClaudetteCC

(82 posts)
4. thanks for posting!
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 05:59 PM
Tuesday

This is one of several articles I've seen just in the past few months highlighting the health importance of the makeup of ones intestinal microbiome

electron_blue

(3,614 posts)
5. fascinating - but what about Epstein-Barr virus?
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 06:06 PM
Tuesday

I thought it was caused by that - wasn't that in the news lately?

wolfie001

(5,759 posts)
12. Kind of sucks to have a last name that matches one the worst pedos
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 07:05 PM
Tuesday

.....and tRUMP's closest BFF for 15 years.

angrychair

(10,920 posts)
8. Here lately, when they say "scientists found"
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 06:54 PM
Tuesday

I know they mean scientists in other countries.
As is the case here.

It is not a mischaracterization to say that what is happening right now in the US-based scientific community is a literal apocalypse.

BComplex

(9,500 posts)
14. In that case: Thank heaven for identical twins! This is great news!
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 07:08 PM
Tuesday

So many people's lives could be restored if there was a cure for MS!

ProfessorGAC

(73,761 posts)
15. Interesting
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 07:11 PM
Tuesday

This definitely interests me as I've had MS for a bit over 30 years.
My recent scans appear identical to those from 2000. And, my condition at that point hadn't changed for a couple years.
I wonder if a natural or organic reduction in these two bacterial strains could explain a remission that has lasted over a quarter century.

TrollBuster9090

(6,077 posts)
19. I've been on DU for years, and this is definitely a FIRST! Thanks for the find!
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 07:43 PM
Tuesday

1. I have MS in my family. My mother developed it when I was 14, and I've been dealing with it, one way or another, for the last 50 years.

2. I teach clinical microbiology and genetics. I'm always looking for good, interesting research papers to show to my students. I was even up last night looking for them on PUBMED. But I never IMAGINED that I'd find an interesting paper on DU! Thanks for finding that!!

0rganism

(25,259 posts)
25. Very interesting, indeed. I've lived with MS for 15 years now, looks like this could really improve the situation
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 09:27 PM
Tuesday

I hope this leads to a cure. My life might be basically over due to damage from this shitty disease, but younger patients could benefit radically. I'll talk with my neurologist about volunteering for treatment studies that emerge as a result. Thanks for posting!

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