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senseandsensibility

(23,059 posts)
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 02:28 PM Friday

They're normalizing a pardon for Maxwell

As Molly Jong-Fast just wrote on bluesky:" It's wild watching this happen in real time."

Trump on pardoning Ghislaine Maxwell this morning: "I'm allowed to do it", as Leavitt nods emphatically behind him.

This in combination with most of the corporate media ignoring the victims, will be the strategy for selling both the exoneration of trump and the "deal" for Maxwell to maga. The audience isn't Democrats, obviously. But I think there's a decent chance that his base will fall for it.

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They're normalizing a pardon for Maxwell (Original Post) senseandsensibility Friday OP
Yes, of course. It's all carefully calculated. MineralMan Friday #1
Recommended. H2O Man Friday #2
Your last paragraph is what helps me senseandsensibility Friday #9
I don't understand how this helps with MAGA EarlG Friday #3
You make excellent points senseandsensibility Friday #5
Its a cult GusBob Friday #10
Not in this case. A pardon for Maxwell will make the portion of MAGA whom are already upset Wiz Imp Friday #12
"Sucker me once, sucker me a thousand times... BoRaGard Friday #4
It will be political suicide, gab13by13 Friday #6
I sincerely hope you're right senseandsensibility Friday #7
They just kicked it up a notch senseandsensibility Friday #8
The portion of MAGA that are irate about the Epstein mess will not be pacified with a Maxwell pardon. Wiz Imp Friday #11
Newsmax is already declaring she is a victim in this. Liberal In Texas Friday #13
Not according to her victims senseandsensibility Friday #14
I believe that trump will pardon Maxwell LetMyPeopleVote Saturday #15

MineralMan

(149,574 posts)
1. Yes, of course. It's all carefully calculated.
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 02:32 PM
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Based on the public's willingness to forget anything in a couple of days, they're getting ready to do the deed, pardon her and let her disappear from public view forever. Willingly or unwillingly.

Most people will simple shrug and get on with their day.

H2O Man

(77,550 posts)
2. Recommended.
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 02:33 PM
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Last edited Fri Jul 25, 2025, 03:14 PM - Edit history (1)

The hard-core base will. We have to keep in mind that a portion of them believed John F. Kennedy, Jr was going to appear at a rally in Dallas. We are not talking about reality-based people there.

What I think is more important is that the outer base is coming apart at the seams. Also, he has lost support of those republicans and independents who, for their own reasons, voted for him.

senseandsensibility

(23,059 posts)
9. Your last paragraph is what helps me
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 03:00 PM
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get through the day lately. He's at 38% approval now, and that's a good thing!

EarlG

(23,078 posts)
3. I don't understand how this helps with MAGA
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 02:33 PM
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They thought Trump was going to release the Epstein files and bring down an entire pedo ring of famous elites. Now he’s refusing to release the files, and talking about setting free the only member of the pedo ring that was actually convicted and imprisoned.

How does pardoning a convicted child sex trafficker help him with his Epstein-fixated base? The only reason this is an ongoing scandal is because the media can’t blow it off as a partisan witch hunt — large numbers of MAGAs are angry about this. They want the files released, not the perpetrators.

senseandsensibility

(23,059 posts)
5. You make excellent points
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 02:38 PM
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and you may be right. But it is what they are attempting to do IMHO, and they're not being subtle about it either. I guess it boils down to whether the hardcore base believes more in their conspiracy theories or in the ultimate authority of their leader, trump.

Wiz Imp

(6,294 posts)
12. Not in this case. A pardon for Maxwell will make the portion of MAGA whom are already upset
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 04:44 PM
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about the non-release of the Epstein files even angrier. The only thing that will satisfy those people is for additional Epstein co-conspirators named and punished.

BoRaGard

(6,591 posts)
4. "Sucker me once, sucker me a thousand times...
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 02:37 PM
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...and I will keep coming back for more." - MagaRepube subgum BiglyDenial frame theme

* To be sung to the tune of "I'm your devoted doormat, darling,"

gab13by13

(29,077 posts)
6. It will be political suicide,
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 02:45 PM
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what's next, a pardon for Jerry Sandusky?

If Krasnov pardons her, Epstein Gate will never go away. Is he that stupid, or is this a show of force, is this his moment of shooting someone on 5th Avenue?

senseandsensibility

(23,059 posts)
7. I sincerely hope you're right
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 02:47 PM
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but in the ten years we've been subjected to this madness I have never seen his "base" stand up to him once.

senseandsensibility

(23,059 posts)
8. They just kicked it up a notch
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 02:57 PM
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Her lawyer went on FAUX just now and said "We haven't spoken to the president or anybody about a pardon just yet. The president this morning said he had the power to do so and we hope he exercises that power in a right and just way." So they're softening up the target audience.

Wiz Imp

(6,294 posts)
11. The portion of MAGA that are irate about the Epstein mess will not be pacified with a Maxwell pardon.
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 04:40 PM
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In fact, it will make that group even angrier.

Liberal In Texas

(15,459 posts)
13. Newsmax is already declaring she is a victim in this.
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 04:47 PM
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Never mind she was an active participant in raping children as well as trafficking them.
The magats will be perfectly fine when she is released that she was a victim and not a rapist. They will repeat this over and over.

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