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yankee87

(2,616 posts)
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 08:56 PM Monday

Mamdani for NYC

If I get a hide, fine. Why the FUCK isn't the DNC fully supporting Mamdani? I wonder if they'll support the sexual predator, Cuomo instead.
We need to support and Democrat, anywhere all the time. I wonder if we'll manage to snatch defeat from victory.
The country is ready for a new way.

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Mamdani for NYC (Original Post) yankee87 Monday OP
Vote blue no matter who... vote Mamdani!! InAbLuEsTaTe Monday #1
Well, my 25 year old bamagal62 Monday #2
I love him-he's thinking about NYers, it seems. I babylonsister Monday #3
Not my state. sheshe2 Monday #4
Making my point yankee87 Monday #7
family dynasties don't go quietly into the night cadoman 21 hrs ago #19
Personally I think it's a scam SocialDemocrat61 20 hrs ago #21
that's not a scam... cadoman 19 hrs ago #22
And political defeat LOL SocialDemocrat61 19 hrs ago #24
Cuomo can only do this because there is still substantial resistance to Mamdani cadoman 19 hrs ago #25
Possible yankee87 16 hrs ago #29
What is the DNC specifically doing? SocialDemocrat61 Monday #5
Why? choie Monday #6
Mamdani needs full support of the party; before, during, and after the election. thought crime Monday #8
Our party can't claim we believe in the will of the people as paramount... pat_k Monday #9
Post removed Post removed Monday #10
Pervy Cuomo didn't win the privilege to run as a Democrat. Buddyzbuddy Monday #11
Post removed Post removed 19 hrs ago #23
Cuomo and Adams both staying in helps Mandani JI7 Monday #12
Fingers crossed yankee87 Yesterday #15
He has a pro-Palestine/anti-Israel problem JoseBalow Monday #13
Anti Genocide yankee87 Yesterday #14
YES mainer 21 hrs ago #20
I'll ask again SocialDemocrat61 21 hrs ago #16
No support yankee87 16 hrs ago #30
Ok That's one member of the DNC SocialDemocrat61 16 hrs ago #31
do you expect the DNC to weigh in on every blue city mayoral race? cadoman 21 hrs ago #17
anywhere all the time. I wonder if we'll manage to snatch defeat from victory. cassidy.a51 21 hrs ago #18
Hmmmm n/t Lulu KC 13 hrs ago #32
When did the Democratic National Committee Start Endorsing Candidates MineralMan 18 hrs ago #26
In what way isn't the DNC fully supporting the Democratic candidate for NYC mayor? lapucelle 18 hrs ago #27
Maybe later. BannonsLiver 17 hrs ago #28
The omission of support by party leadership -- reveals the truth about leadership. Duncan Grant 12 hrs ago #33
Recommended. H2O Man 12 hrs ago #34

bamagal62

(4,011 posts)
2. Well, my 25 year old
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 09:18 PM
Monday

Last edited Mon Jul 21, 2025, 10:38 PM - Edit history (1)

Voted for Mandani. We need to pay attention to the younger voters.

sheshe2

(92,935 posts)
4. Not my state.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 09:29 PM
Monday

However, I always vote Democratic. I have never NOT voted and have never voted 'Uncommitted'.

We need to support and Democrat, anywhere all the time.


Your statement above is correct, however I wish you had told that to a State Congress person who told her district NOT to vote for Biden and that urging carried over to the GE. They chanted F**K Joe Biden and called him Genocide Joe.

You lecture about anyone voting for Cuomo is supporting a sexual predator, when those that voted for tsf, or sat out the vote were the very ones that willfully voted for a child molester.

yankee87

(2,616 posts)
7. Making my point
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 09:39 PM
Monday

Cuomo is running as an independent just to screw over Mamdani. His father is rolling over in his grave. Lived in The Bronx until married and his father was a lion. Not a lecture, but Cuomo was an embarrassment and now we have Hochul.
Not going over the 24 elections, still hurts so much.
The DNC should be 100% behind Mamdani, full stop.

cadoman

(1,495 posts)
19. family dynasties don't go quietly into the night
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 07:26 AM
21 hrs ago

I suspect many people have spoken to Cuomo and attempted to give him a profitable and dignified offramp, but you don't get to be at the top of the hill of NY political families by standing down when the odds are against you.

I think DNC knows what they have in Mamdani (future Governor/Senator or even higher for an increasingly Muslim public) and they are content to let the voters recognize that.

SocialDemocrat61

(5,206 posts)
21. Personally I think it's a scam
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 08:04 AM
20 hrs ago

I have no evidence of this, but Cuomo has to know he can’t win. So why stay in the race? It’s an excuse to fundraise. He can then use that money for another race in the future.

cadoman

(1,495 posts)
22. that's not a scam...
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 09:12 AM
19 hrs ago

...that's estate planning.

And yes, campaign funds do tend to linger well past the campaign. Such funds are frequently described as a "war chest" and are one of the spoils of political victory.

SocialDemocrat61

(5,206 posts)
24. And political defeat LOL
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 09:18 AM
19 hrs ago

In fact, one could make more with a losing campaign than a winning one and make millions. Sounds like the plot of a good movie.

cadoman

(1,495 posts)
25. Cuomo can only do this because there is still substantial resistance to Mamdani
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 09:29 AM
19 hrs ago

It happens. The genocide/defense operation in Palestine is clearly a big wedge issue.

Say what you will about Cuomo but his political instincts are spot on. It's a monetizable situation and he's going in and monetizing it for himself and his family. And in politics you never know when someone will get shaken out because of an October surprise (aka when the most potent dirt is released to be in the public's mind at voting time).

He could create an upset and have everyone in the Democratic power structure begging and bowing to get back in the family's good graces.

yankee87

(2,616 posts)
29. Possible
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 11:52 AM
16 hrs ago

Anything is possible. You’re correct, Cuomo could eke out a win and destroy momentum of the younger generations. Time for us old folks to step aside.

SocialDemocrat61

(5,206 posts)
5. What is the DNC specifically doing?
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 09:33 PM
Monday

And isn’t the DNC responsible for national/federal elections? Don’t really recall them getting involved in a local Mayor’s race in the past.

thought crime

(509 posts)
8. Mamdani needs full support of the party; before, during, and after the election.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 09:46 PM
Monday

This election is of national significance. Mamdani is the kind of leader we need at every level.

pat_k

(11,481 posts)
9. Our party can't claim we believe in the will of the people as paramount...
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 11:17 PM
Monday

... and then go into some freak out when the will of the people nominates a Democratic candidate that doesn't tow some "company line" that the crazy quilt coalition that has always made up this party has never quite bought.

I am sick and tired of the major push recently from some quarters that the "only" way to "save" our party is to embrace some new version of watered down DLC, "third-way" mealy-mouthed platitudes.

Accept it. This is a diverse party. We don't need to hit on some magical set of policy proposals that "everyone" agrees on. We don't need to silence inspiring voices who say we can do better or more.

We need to get clear on some basic, shared values. And recognize the direction those values point us. And be bold about advocating those goals -- goals like universal health care, even while we recognize that we have work to do to build the political will.

We need to welcome voices from across the Anti-Christian Nationalist, Pro-Christian Values, Pro-Universal Health Care, Pro-Workers, Pro-Climate Sanity, Pro-Agriculture, Pro-Democracy 2.0 (like actually funding citizen assemblies), and Pro-Other Shit that pisses off some of those other people, but is nevertheless aligned on some fundamental principles on which we can make progress.

Politics is messy. The ONE thing that we as Democrats should embrace is our belief in our fellow humans and our will to get into the game; our belief that expanding and engaging people in the process of shaping their own government, not some perfect candidate who will "fix it" for us, is the ONLY way we can even begin to redeem our national soul.

I am sick to death of calls for some "leader" or "the party" to emerge with the magic plan fix all this shit for us. True leaders will make it clear that we need to get engaged in the messy, fucked up, process of finding common ground where we can -- and there are LOTS of areas of violent agreement -- and build the political will to move forward on the things we can.

The government is not some alien being oppressing us. It is ours to shape. And that belief is the central difference between US and THEM.



Response to yankee87 (Original post)

Buddyzbuddy

(1,200 posts)
11. Pervy Cuomo didn't win the privilege to run as a Democrat.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 11:48 PM
Monday

So, how could they justify hiding your post?
We should all back the Democratic nominee even if we can't vote for him. Unless a photo of him at a party with EPSTEIN comes out, he should get all of the Democratic support.

Response to Buddyzbuddy (Reply #11)

JoseBalow

(7,963 posts)
13. He has a pro-Palestine/anti-Israel problem
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 11:58 PM
Monday

and it's hurting him.

"Why the FUCK isn't the DNC fully supporting Mamdani?"

SocialDemocrat61

(5,206 posts)
16. I'll ask again
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 07:13 AM
21 hrs ago

What is the DNC doing that is hurting Mamdani? And since DNC stands for Democratic National Committee, why should they be involved in a local election?

yankee87

(2,616 posts)
30. No support
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 11:55 AM
16 hrs ago

The House Minority Leader, Hakeem Jeffries says he needs to speak with him before we endorse him. What the hell. He’s a Democrat who is energized the electorate and is our standard bearer in NYC.

SocialDemocrat61

(5,206 posts)
31. Ok That's one member of the DNC
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 12:01 PM
16 hrs ago

What’s the rest of the DNC doing that’s different than they have done in other local elections?

cadoman

(1,495 posts)
17. do you expect the DNC to weigh in on every blue city mayoral race?
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 07:16 AM
21 hrs ago

They are the "National" committee for a reason, and it's not to focus on the politics of localities that already consistently vote correctly.

cassidy.a51

(1 post)
18. anywhere all the time. I wonder if we'll manage to snatch defeat from victory.
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 07:17 AM
21 hrs ago

anywhere all the time. I wonder if we'll manage to snatch defeat from victory.

MineralMan

(149,500 posts)
26. When did the Democratic National Committee Start Endorsing Candidates
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 09:57 AM
18 hrs ago

for mayor?

The Mayor of New York is, I understand, an important job, but it is not a national office of any kind. I think we should let New Yorkers decide. Why would anyone there care who I think should be Mayor of NYC?

lapucelle

(20,327 posts)
27. In what way isn't the DNC fully supporting the Democratic candidate for NYC mayor?
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 10:26 AM
18 hrs ago

What exactly is it that you think the DNC normally does to support Democratic candidates in municipal elections?

Zohran Mamdani is the Democratic candidate for mayor and has full access to and use of every resource that the Democratic Party makes available to any and every Democratic general election candidate during a NYC mayoral run.

None of those resources are available to Andrew Cuomo.

Why would anyone think that the DNC is supporting or will support any independent candidate? Where is that talking point coming from?


Duncan Grant

(8,757 posts)
33. The omission of support by party leadership -- reveals the truth about leadership.
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 04:03 PM
12 hrs ago

The Democratic Party and I want similar things, but not the same things. The omission of support has made this distinction much more clear to me.

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