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Sadly believable.

Ocelot II
(126,094 posts)orangecrush
(25,735 posts)Miriam Webster
authoress
noun
au·thor·ess ˈȯ-th(ə rəs
somewhat old-fashioned
: a woman or girl who is an author
yardwork
(67,260 posts)orangecrush
(25,735 posts)Or were you just interested in the op title?
orangecrush
(25,735 posts)Apologies.
Any thoughts on the racism?
Or did you only read the op title?
Ocelot II
(126,094 posts)I clicked on the link only because of the use of the word "authoress."
orangecrush
(25,735 posts)
dalton99a
(89,485 posts)
Samael13
(44 posts)I always thought author was a all inclusive term I didnt know there was a term specifically for women
orangecrush
(25,735 posts)authoress
noun
au·thor·ess ˈȯ-th(ə

somewhat old-fashioned
: a woman or girl who is an author
obamanut2012
(28,651 posts)orangecrush
(25,735 posts)yardwork
(67,260 posts)There's no need to call people poetesses, authoresses, actresses, stewardesses, waitresses, or any of the other silly terms that imply that women are less than the standard.
obamanut2012
(28,651 posts)maveric
(16,915 posts)orangecrush
(25,735 posts)That she has no business being in first class.
Accuse her of getting admission by sexual favors.
Karen kicks water in her face.
maveric
(16,915 posts)orangecrush
(25,735 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(25,341 posts)Despite having legitimate access to the area through special VIP cards, Toni faced escalating harassment that culminated in the female aggressor implying she had exchanged sexual favors for her cruise tickets. I was in so much shock, Toni explained in her video, describing how she refused to give her harassers the satisfaction of an emotional reaction despite the humiliation they attempted to inflict.
The confrontation began innocuously when an older man photobombed a picture Tonis mother was taking of her. Shortly after, the man approached Toni and questioned how she gained access to the VIP area despite staff confirming she had proper authorization. The situation escalated when the couple realized complaints to staff wouldnt result in Tonis removal from the area.
Toni described how the couple, whom she called Chuck and Stephanie from Alberta, Canada, attempted to provoke a reaction from her that might justify her removal. When Toni entered the hot tub where they were sitting, the woman deliberately kicked water into her face while the couple laughed. They explicitly questioned how a Black woman could have legitimately accessed the VIP area.
orangecrush
(25,735 posts)
LearnedHand
(4,815 posts)There is zero reason ever to diminish womens importance by adding the -ess diminutive to their professional title.
orangecrush
(25,735 posts)authoress
noun
au·thor·ess ˈȯ-th(ə rəs
somewhat old-fashioned
: a woman or girl who is an author
orangecrush
(25,735 posts)Sorry you have nothing of substance to say about the op.
yardwork
(67,260 posts)ProfessorGAC
(73,651 posts)I completely agree that adding the "-ess" is archaic & unnecessary.
Nobody calls Gretchen Whitmer "Governess". She's called "Governor".
Nobody called Jane Byrne "Mayoress". They called her "Mayor".
Where we disagree is that it's diminutive.
Doggie is a diminutive of dog. Kitty is a diminutive of cat.
Authoress is gender specific (needlessly) but not diminutive.
orangecrush
(25,735 posts)Usually if a term is deprecating, the dictionary will define it as such.
Still, I have no desire to offend anyone here, so I corrected it and will not use it.
obamanut2012
(28,651 posts)Sexism and racism are both very, very appalling.
orangecrush
(25,735 posts)Any comments on the racism, or didn't you make it past the op title?
Ocelot II
(126,094 posts)to indicate the female exception to some jobs or statuses, e.g., author, actor, host, waiter, steward, poet, comedian. To indicate the female exception, the suffix "ess" (sometimes "enne" or "ine", e.g., "heroine," "comedienne" ) was used but is now discouraged as sexist.
orangecrush
(25,735 posts)And thank you for informing me without presuming I meant offense.
I appreciate it.

B.See
(5,906 posts)a person had her cruise experience forever ruined by a pair of racist mfkrs who believed themselves entitled (as in PRIVILEGED) to question her legitimacy, based on the colour of her skin.
FUCK them..
JustAnotherGen
(35,698 posts)I saw,what happened here too.
orangecrush
(25,735 posts)Just incredibly ignorant.
B.See
(5,906 posts)the write up did state the male creep began the harassment by intentionally trying to spoil photos her Mom was taking of her.
If anything, it was they who should've been removed for the harassment.
She should sue the cruise liner, if for no other reason than to obtain identifying information (via discovery) so the rest of the world can learn who these cretins are.
They didn't mind trying to embarrass, disparage her. Return the favour.
orangecrush
(25,735 posts)Agree wholeheartedly.
Melon
(584 posts)JustAnotherGen
(35,698 posts)One in 1993.
JustAnotherGen
(35,698 posts)DU is focused on language usage instead of the fact that these two nasty *word 😃alerted at DU* fucking racists think their shit doesn't think.
I hope they both *tos violation*.
orangecrush
(25,735 posts)
Same
