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Quiet Em

(2,094 posts)
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 08:15 AM Jul 21

The victims were children and no one should lose sight of that

The Epstein scandal is repulsive and horrific. It was heinous assault and abuse of children. That fact seems to be getting lost in some of the reporting and commentary. It's not, "sex with a child". It's the most atrocious form of abuse and assault committed on a child. 13 and 14 year old girls are not "young women". They are children.

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The victims were children and no one should lose sight of that (Original Post) Quiet Em Jul 21 OP
We know what Trump is. He talks and acts like a rapist. Walleye Jul 21 #1
Trump is a convicted rapist. Irish_Dem Jul 21 #2
Actually, he's never been convicted of rape. Gimpyknee Jul 21 #16
He was convicted of sexual abuse/assault. Irish_Dem Jul 21 #17
He was convicted of sexual assault in New York, soldierant Jul 21 #19
Some people here keep defending Trump's rapes. Irish_Dem Jul 22 #28
Under normal circumstances, being a long time pedant (although soldierant Jul 22 #32
He was found liable for assault, and the judge stated that it actually WAS RAPE, niyad Jul 22 #30
Absoloutely! SheltieLover Jul 22 #31
Here are some chums Aviation Pro Jul 21 #3
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 21 #4
I am willing to bet mercuryblues Jul 21 #5
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 21 #12
So very true. TommieMommy Jul 21 #6
horribly impacted for the rest et tu Jul 21 #7
Republicans use "underage women" for children because they are creepy predators who abuse children IronLionZion Jul 21 #8
G.O.P. pedos deserve justice BoRaGard Jul 22 #29
The movie Taken Marthe48 Jul 21 #9
Whatever happened Cherokee100 Jul 21 #10
You can buy or rent it on YouTube video TheRickles Jul 21 #11
Calling children, "young women," discounts snd minimizes the crime dlk Jul 21 #13
The helpless Godot51 Jul 21 #14
And that's the way it's always been in this country. slightlv Jul 21 #21
Absolutely! SheltieLover Jul 22 #27
he preyed on poor girls. pansypoo53219 Jul 21 #15
and trafficked! n/t AntiFascist Jul 21 #18
Trump's a pimp. Trump's a pimp. rickyhall Jul 21 #20
I'd love to ask a maga if they would be ok with their young daughter being alone with the orange Hitler ! kimbutgar Jul 21 #22
And this vulgar fucker had the audacity to sell autographed bibles -- AFTER FUCKING CHILDREN Blue Owl Jul 21 #23
look how many churchgoers voted for that fucking pedo Skittles Jul 22 #24
Epstein and Trump raped children. camartinwv Jul 22 #25
And the pedo perps going unpunished means they're likely raping more kids! SheltieLover Jul 22 #26

Walleye

(41,536 posts)
1. We know what Trump is. He talks and acts like a rapist.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 08:22 AM
Jul 21

He is constantly seen in the company of rapists. There should be a lot more people pointing that out, and not being afraid of being sued for telling the truth.

Irish_Dem

(72,736 posts)
17. He was convicted of sexual abuse/assault.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 06:37 PM
Jul 21

I am not in the mood to defend the son of a bitch or defend him.

soldierant

(8,774 posts)
19. He was convicted of sexual assault in New York,
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 07:23 PM
Jul 21

which has possibly the narrowest definition of rape in the nation. The judge at his trial actually said that in most other states, the charge would have qualified as rape. That is why so many people are calling it rape. And I get that.

soldierant

(8,774 posts)
32. Under normal circumstances, being a long time pedant (although
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 05:59 PM
Jul 22

I try not to be too obnoxious about it), I might think it was to try to be accurate so that you couldn't be called a liar. But today, when MAGA will call you a liar no matter what you say or do, nit picking accuracy doesn't matter.

niyad

(125,547 posts)
30. He was found liable for assault, and the judge stated that it actually WAS RAPE,
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 10:59 AM
Jul 22

but the NY statute defines it only with penile penetration.

Your posted defense of this entitled and busy and boastful sexual predator is disturbing, to say the least. And please do not try to split hairs about legal definitions. We are not a
court of law. We all know exactly who, and what, he is, whatever definitions are used, just as we do his supporters, whatever linguistic games they play.

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et tu

(2,368 posts)
7. horribly impacted for the rest
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 10:27 AM
Jul 21

of their lives and made also
to lose their childhood before
they should have. as i have said
before, standing room only in hell
for these abusers - just way to many.

IronLionZion

(49,507 posts)
8. Republicans use "underage women" for children because they are creepy predators who abuse children
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 10:31 AM
Jul 21

For the same reason they use "kids" and "youthful indiscretion" and similar for adult men who commit crimes against these young girls.

"locker room talk" that happens maybe in the Trump golf course locker room. They try to normalize horrible stuff that has no excuse.

Marthe48

(21,366 posts)
9. The movie Taken
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 10:56 AM
Jul 21

I only saw a minute, the part where the daughter and another girl were going to be raped by a fat old man, and I turned it off. But why was that aspect of rape such a trigger, but the same people who abhorred that are fine with the details coming out about felon rapist traitor, epstein and other foul predators? And the same kind of monster being asshole uber alles?

Cherokee100

(405 posts)
10. Whatever happened
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 04:07 PM
Jul 21

Whatever happened to the movie 'Apprentice' ? It was here, for a few days and then disappeared.

dlk

(12,802 posts)
13. Calling children, "young women," discounts snd minimizes the crime
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 05:08 PM
Jul 21

This was calculated child abuse and these monsters destroyed, and discarded children as though they were nothing more than used kleenex.

Godot51

(571 posts)
14. The helpless
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 05:25 PM
Jul 21

As is usual with "men of power" they prey on the helpless.

Then they claim those helpless were somehow responsible for their fates.

slightlv

(6,192 posts)
21. And that's the way it's always been in this country.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 10:27 PM
Jul 21

I was going to say everywhere, but I don't have experience and knowledge of elsewhere, to know if that die that was cast encompasses all evil males everywhere. Whether it's sex slaves, slaves, little girls or little boys, it's predatory behavior based on a power structure this country exalts. Until we can bring that power structure down to ground in shreds, where it belongs, we'll always have this evil in our midst. Sometimes, I wonder if testosterone shouldn't be regulated after a certain age.

kimbutgar

(25,642 posts)
22. I'd love to ask a maga if they would be ok with their young daughter being alone with the orange Hitler !
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 10:42 PM
Jul 21

Blue Owl

(56,796 posts)
23. And this vulgar fucker had the audacity to sell autographed bibles -- AFTER FUCKING CHILDREN
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 11:36 PM
Jul 21

If indeed there is a God — how has he not turned into a pillar of salt?

SheltieLover

(72,131 posts)
26. And the pedo perps going unpunished means they're likely raping more kids!
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 05:12 AM
Jul 22

Wtaf is wrong with this country???

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