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say the felon craps out before '28. what's a vance presidency look like (Original Post) KG Jul 19 OP
I think he's a lightweight, surrounded by featherweights bucolic_frolic Jul 19 #1
Peter Thiel would call the shots. JD says whatever helps or doesn't hurt himself underpants Jul 19 #3
Yes.. and those Tech Bros along with the Project 2025 cretins would be calling the shots... hlthe2b Jul 19 #8
Pence 2.0. A houseplant that echoes whatever Dear Leader says underpants Jul 19 #10
I would see no change in course. WarGamer Jul 19 #2
Policies will be 99% the same Justice Brandeis Jul 19 #4
VD Jance won't be able to keep the Trump scam going. Dulcinea Jul 19 #21
Same shit different asshole IA8IT Jul 19 #5
I think worse... TommyT139 Jul 19 #6
I agree. Miller will still be orchestrating. underpants Jul 19 #11
This is 3 years in the future. Things change so rapidly one can't see 3 hours ahead. Things have changed since the Srkdqltr Jul 19 #7
I sincerely doubt that. TSF is on a downward trajectory healthwise--especially mental capacity hlthe2b Jul 19 #9
He'll dig in on the dictatorship takeover. GoodRaisin Jul 19 #12
No-Personality Vance won't be able to hold maga together lame54 Jul 19 #13
Probably not Jilly_in_VA Jul 19 #14
It'll be a mess. Iggo Jul 19 #15
I think it might happen sooner than that. chowder66 Jul 19 #16
one difference imo proud patriot Jul 19 #17
JD's your basic political meatloaf. He's about as pertinent as Dan Quail was. nt allegorical oracle Jul 19 #18
Peter Thiel (another billionaire South African) is his puppeteer and sponsor. What do you think? Hekate Jul 19 #19
Your eggs would then be valued in satoshis (fractions of Bitcoin) nt EarthFirst Jul 19 #20
There would be less danger of starting a nuclear war by 'Truth Social' post... Jack Valentino Jul 19 #22

bucolic_frolic

(51,623 posts)
1. I think he's a lightweight, surrounded by featherweights
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 02:50 PM
Jul 19

mental policy collapse should be expected.

underpants

(191,721 posts)
3. Peter Thiel would call the shots. JD says whatever helps or doesn't hurt himself
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 02:51 PM
Jul 19

Mayor Pete said he knew lots of people like that at Harvard (Ivy League).

hlthe2b

(110,810 posts)
8. Yes.. and those Tech Bros along with the Project 2025 cretins would be calling the shots...
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 03:47 PM
Jul 19

JD Vance may not be inherently stupid, but he remains insecure from his early years of dorkiness & bullying-- and is thus readily manipulated.

Justice Brandeis

(111 posts)
4. Policies will be 99% the same
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 03:11 PM
Jul 19

On the one hand, Vance is more disciplined than Trump (that's not saying much), but has at least an average knowledge of public policy that Trump very much lacks.

Trump has tremendous charisma AMONG HIS OWN SUPPORTERS. Vance has nowhere near that same level of magnetism.

Dulcinea

(8,795 posts)
21. VD Jance won't be able to keep the Trump scam going.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 08:56 PM
Jul 19

He lacks the Fascist Felon's salesmanship and ability to sway a crowd. Plus, no one likes him. He'll never be able to win an election on his own.

TommyT139

(1,658 posts)
6. I think worse...
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 03:17 PM
Jul 19

Mostly because Vance won't make some of the stupid errors that Trump does. He has more self-control, which will help his image. His corruption prior to being VP has only barely come to light, and attention faded quickly. Of course, he had less baggage than Trump, because of his age, and the fact of Peter Thiel sponsoring him.

Finally, he is younger, healthier, with at least two terms legally possible...and all the illegal tactics already in his tool box.

underpants

(191,721 posts)
11. I agree. Miller will still be orchestrating.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 04:06 PM
Jul 19

Vance would bring no full Bro rhetoric too.

JD isn’t anywhere near as flippant, erratic, and flat out stupid as Trump.

Srkdqltr

(8,702 posts)
7. This is 3 years in the future. Things change so rapidly one can't see 3 hours ahead. Things have changed since the
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 03:20 PM
Jul 19

Question was asked.

hlthe2b

(110,810 posts)
9. I sincerely doubt that. TSF is on a downward trajectory healthwise--especially mental capacity
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 03:50 PM
Jul 19

Jilly_in_VA

(12,534 posts)
14. Probably not
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 05:07 PM
Jul 19

But will he have the cojones to get rid of Miller et al? That's the real question. I don't think he has a mind of his own.

Iggo

(49,026 posts)
15. It'll be a mess.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 05:12 PM
Jul 19

A spineless guy totally run by others.

Think Dubya, but dumber and less in charge.

chowder66

(11,016 posts)
16. I think it might happen sooner than that.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 06:30 PM
Jul 19

As for what happens next, I shudder to think.

proud patriot

(102,160 posts)
17. one difference imo
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 06:34 PM
Jul 19

would be that no one really likes vance .

Vance has no cult do to his lack of charisma.

Hekate

(98,680 posts)
19. Peter Thiel (another billionaire South African) is his puppeteer and sponsor. What do you think?
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 06:57 PM
Jul 19

Jack Valentino

(2,881 posts)
22. There would be less danger of starting a nuclear war by 'Truth Social' post...
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 10:44 PM
Jul 19

if Vance were president rather than Trump. That's the best thing I can say about him.


Also, I think he'd be much more rational than Trump on tariff policies---
and quite possibly understand that a tariff is a tax on the American people,
which Trump continues to deny...

As for most everything else, he's your standard right-wing nightmare.

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