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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumssay the felon craps out before '28. what's a vance presidency look like
(missed it if it's been discussed)

bucolic_frolic
(51,623 posts)mental policy collapse should be expected.
underpants
(191,721 posts)Mayor Pete said he knew lots of people like that at Harvard (Ivy League).
hlthe2b
(110,810 posts)JD Vance may not be inherently stupid, but he remains insecure from his early years of dorkiness & bullying-- and is thus readily manipulated.
underpants
(191,721 posts)WarGamer
(17,598 posts)Justice Brandeis
(111 posts)On the one hand, Vance is more disciplined than Trump (that's not saying much), but has at least an average knowledge of public policy that Trump very much lacks.
Trump has tremendous charisma AMONG HIS OWN SUPPORTERS. Vance has nowhere near that same level of magnetism.
Dulcinea
(8,795 posts)He lacks the Fascist Felon's salesmanship and ability to sway a crowd. Plus, no one likes him. He'll never be able to win an election on his own.
IA8IT
(6,211 posts)TommyT139
(1,658 posts)Mostly because Vance won't make some of the stupid errors that Trump does. He has more self-control, which will help his image. His corruption prior to being VP has only barely come to light, and attention faded quickly. Of course, he had less baggage than Trump, because of his age, and the fact of Peter Thiel sponsoring him.
Finally, he is younger, healthier, with at least two terms legally possible...and all the illegal tactics already in his tool box.
underpants
(191,721 posts)Vance would bring no full Bro rhetoric too.
JD isnt anywhere near as flippant, erratic, and flat out stupid as Trump.
Srkdqltr
(8,702 posts)Question was asked.
hlthe2b
(110,810 posts)GoodRaisin
(10,377 posts)Yarvinism.
lame54
(38,156 posts)Jilly_in_VA
(12,534 posts)But will he have the cojones to get rid of Miller et al? That's the real question. I don't think he has a mind of his own.
Iggo
(49,026 posts)A spineless guy totally run by others.
Think Dubya, but dumber and less in charge.
chowder66
(11,016 posts)As for what happens next, I shudder to think.
proud patriot
(102,160 posts)would be that no one really likes vance .
Vance has no cult do to his lack of charisma.
allegorical oracle
(5,433 posts)Hekate
(98,680 posts)EarthFirst
(3,746 posts)Jack Valentino
(2,881 posts)if Vance were president rather than Trump. That's the best thing I can say about him.
Also, I think he'd be much more rational than Trump on tariff policies---
and quite possibly understand that a tariff is a tax on the American people,
which Trump continues to deny...
As for most everything else, he's your standard right-wing nightmare.