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DUMember24

(65 posts)
Tue Jul 15, 2025, 09:54 PM Jul 15

The whole Epsein files thing is a trap, and the Dems are walking right into it

This may turn out to be a huge one-sided embarrassment if files were bleached. No MAGA GOP is going to call for the release of something they know will implicate them they way Johnson is now doing today.

This has been one entire week of turning the news cycle away from the tariffs, and the Texas flood failures over what now seems to be a planted story. Gotta stop chasing decoys and distractors...

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The whole Epsein files thing is a trap, and the Dems are walking right into it (Original Post) DUMember24 Jul 15 OP
MAGA is a pile of fetid dog shit. Piss on those fucking turds. SoFlaBro Jul 15 #1
Johnson is pulling a rope a dooe Javaman Jul 15 #2
Nonsense. Anyhow, we can pay attention to more than one thing at a time. Ocelot II Jul 15 #3
Trump said the files are probably all fake news by Obama and Biden newdeal2 Jul 15 #4
LOL if you don't think there is a copy Historic NY Jul 15 #5
Sure, sure. LisaL Jul 15 #6
I agree that our Democratic officeholders' main focus should be elsewhere--- Jack Valentino Jul 15 #7
Never interfere with your enemy when he is making a mistake. comradebillyboy Jul 16 #21
I have also heard the files have been scrubbed. sheshe2 Jul 15 #8
Not to mention, other pedos likely warned him they will squeal & release videos SheltieLover Jul 15 #11
That too! sheshe2 Jul 15 #14
A trap? I don't think so, too many people are privy to it and one was named Elon? Brainfodder Jul 15 #9
WE DON'T GIVE A FUCK WHO IS IN IT Skittles Jul 15 #10
You should care if Bondi is 'caretaker' e.g. the one applying the filter for what is actually released AZJonnie Jul 15 #16
there are people who KNOW what is in those files Skittles Jul 15 #17
Yes, but anyone with that knowledge + any inclination to ever 'go public' and say 'those aren't the files' AZJonnie Jul 16 #25
Do you see what I wrote overnight, just above? AZJonnie Jul 16 #34
Welcome to DU orangecrush Jul 15 #12
Long Knives OC375 Jul 15 #13
I'm surprised it's a concern to MAGA, never was before. Like Pee Tape, we'll never know for sure but Silent Type Jul 15 #15
They think Bill and Hillary are in the Epstein files FakeNoose Jul 16 #20
This is an extremely bad and unconvincing take Prairie Gates Jul 15 #18
disagree kennyperkins Jul 15 #19
If these had been "sanitized" so only Dems were on the list... regnaD kciN Jul 16 #22
It is a distraction. valleyrogue Jul 16 #23
THIS - how many this is going to take him downs Cosmocat Jul 16 #31
if calling attention to oneself as a pedo is owning libs, uncle ray Jul 16 #24
Johnson is an endtimer who wants chaos and Armageddon JT45242 Jul 16 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author DUMember24 Jul 16 #27
No we need to Benghazi this MaineBlueBear Jul 16 #28
They never have to be released JustAnotherGen Jul 16 #29
I've been saying "snipe hunt" for a long time. BlueTsunami2018 Jul 16 #30
There is, as you say, no list. But we know from a few sources there were cameras in all the rooms in Scrivener7 Jul 16 #32
Trump said Hillary and Obama wrote them. Blue Full Moon Jul 16 #33
I believe thinking it's a trap, can be a trap of its own making. B.See Jul 16 #35

Javaman

(64,307 posts)
2. Johnson is pulling a rope a dooe
Tue Jul 15, 2025, 10:05 PM
Jul 15

He knows the files will never be released, he’s just trying to keep the maga voters in his side

newdeal2

(3,460 posts)
4. Trump said the files are probably all fake news by Obama and Biden
Tue Jul 15, 2025, 10:08 PM
Jul 15

There’s no way to walk that back and release the files, even forged ones, and say they are legit now.

Jack Valentino

(2,881 posts)
7. I agree that our Democratic officeholders' main focus should be elsewhere---
Tue Jul 15, 2025, 10:23 PM
Jul 15

mainly on Trump's tariffs raising prices instead of lowering them as he promised,
AND on the impacts of the Big Abominable Bill which Republicans passed,
which some are now trying to run away from....

MAGATS seem to be covering the Epstein issue well enough on their own

comradebillyboy

(10,805 posts)
21. Never interfere with your enemy when he is making a mistake.
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 12:37 AM
Jul 16

This Epstein thing really is a big deal and it's got MAGA tearing itself apart right now. Dems really don't need to get between the feuding factions.

sheshe2

(93,020 posts)
8. I have also heard the files have been scrubbed.
Tue Jul 15, 2025, 10:28 PM
Jul 15

Most likely, but they haven't 'scrubbed' Maxwell or the books/files/videos that she has stashed. They are her insurance policy that has kept her alive.

Brainfodder

(7,554 posts)
9. A trap? I don't think so, too many people are privy to it and one was named Elon?
Tue Jul 15, 2025, 10:28 PM
Jul 15

Cracks and leaks...
Next up, The Apprentice Files?

Skittles

(166,309 posts)
10. WE DON'T GIVE A FUCK WHO IS IN IT
Tue Jul 15, 2025, 10:36 PM
Jul 15

OUT THESE FUCKING PERVERTS ALONG WITH EVERYONE WHO IS COVERING FOR THEM

ENOUGH ALREADY

AZJonnie

(1,100 posts)
16. You should care if Bondi is 'caretaker' e.g. the one applying the filter for what is actually released
Tue Jul 15, 2025, 11:08 PM
Jul 15

That is the rub here. If this were a REAL DoJ, and Dems were in charge of the House, I'd agree with you.

But not like this. I agree with the OP in the sense that it could end up hurting us more than helping us

Skittles

(166,309 posts)
17. there are people who KNOW what is in those files
Tue Jul 15, 2025, 11:27 PM
Jul 15

if they could have scrubbed THEY WOULD HAVE ALREADY DONE THAT

AZJonnie

(1,100 posts)
25. Yes, but anyone with that knowledge + any inclination to ever 'go public' and say 'those aren't the files'
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 04:44 AM
Jul 16

have already probably quit or been fired from DoJ. So any such person will basically be ignored, called 'disgruntled', etc.

Basically, in some way, they will just say "these aren't everything, some things must be protected and/or are sealed by judges" (which I'm certain much of it is), and then it doesn't much matter what "the people who know" have to say about the omissions, cause they never said "it's everything". That avenue is easily defanged and the credulous M$M will help them do so.

Betting that there's *any* chance this DoJ is going to release anything about this case that hurts Trump, or MAGA, is NOT a safe bet. I'd rather it was let lie until we have a Dem POTUS, an honest AG, and control the house. I realize your point is predicated on 'everything being released' and if I thought that could possibly happen, I'd agree. It absolutely will NOT with Trump and Bondi. They are masters at lying, and getting away with it.

AZJonnie

(1,100 posts)
34. Do you see what I wrote overnight, just above?
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 07:41 PM
Jul 16

And now today, Maureen Comey is fired. Perhaps the most likely to call out a potential Bondi bluff, because she knows what's in the files and she's probably not a huge Trumper. Now she'll be "the disgruntled daughter of disgraced James Comey" if she calls out inaccuracies.

This is why I'm reticent to have *these* people 'release the files'.

OC375

(140 posts)
13. Long Knives
Tue Jul 15, 2025, 10:55 PM
Jul 15

Perhaps a good way to create space between him and some useful idiots who have reached the end of their shelf life?

Silent Type

(10,552 posts)
15. I'm surprised it's a concern to MAGA, never was before. Like Pee Tape, we'll never know for sure but
Tue Jul 15, 2025, 10:56 PM
Jul 15

trump is likely guilty of just about anything one might imagine.

FakeNoose

(38,021 posts)
20. They think Bill and Hillary are in the Epstein files
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 12:03 AM
Jul 16

That's why they want it all released. Chump made a campaign promise that he would release Epstein's evidence once he's back in the White House. Isn't it weird that he never said such a thing before, and he was president for 4 years?

regnaD kciN

(27,198 posts)
22. If these had been "sanitized" so only Dems were on the list...
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 12:38 AM
Jul 16

…wouldn’t Trump have released it as promised?

valleyrogue

(2,238 posts)
23. It is a distraction.
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 01:22 AM
Jul 16

If Trump's antics during J6 weren't enough to keep him out of the White House, the Epstein deal certainly won't force him out.

It is a complete waste of time thinking this will sink him.

Cosmocat

(15,216 posts)
31. THIS - how many this is going to take him downs
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 07:24 AM
Jul 16

do we have to go through for people to get it.

And, the country is more gaslit now than ever.

They absolutely would release THEIR version if it came to that, which won't have who they don't want in it and will have who the want to have in it - see Mueller Report.

But, either way, it won't take him down.

They will continue to firehouse bullshit, ginned up issues, scream Biden, Clinton, Obama and far left and three months from now this will be a butterfly fart in the wind.

JT45242

(3,511 posts)
26. Johnson is an endtimer who wants chaos and Armageddon
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 05:15 AM
Jul 16

Never forget that Maggot Mike, like his mike predecessors Pence and Pompeo actually wants the world to end to start the rapture.

This misguided hypocritical zealot wants to bring on his whacked out view if the revelation. He somehow does not realize that he is on the wrong side of the parable about judgement day and feeding the poor, taking care of the widow and orphan, etc.

He doesn't care if it blows up the party ...because deep down he wants to blow up the world with a huge WW3 that starts in the middle east. Preferably stemming from Israel/Palestine.

Response to DUMember24 (Original post)

JustAnotherGen

(35,923 posts)
29. They never have to be released
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 06:28 AM
Jul 16

We just need to use it as a Cultural Hammer on our opponents - the maga Pub voters.

Who are the pedo lovers now?

BlueTsunami2018

(4,511 posts)
30. I've been saying "snipe hunt" for a long time.
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 06:29 AM
Jul 16

It certainly banished everything else from the news. The outrage over the BBB was high on all sides before they decided to use this distraction. Now it’s as if it never happened.

Political assassinations? Gone.
Tariffs? Gone.
Hideous court rulings? Gone.

There are flight logs and all that but there’s no defined list of people who had sex on the island. And even if there was, that’s never coming out.

Snipe hunt.

Scrivener7

(56,536 posts)
32. There is, as you say, no list. But we know from a few sources there were cameras in all the rooms in
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 07:28 AM
Jul 16

all the houses, and there was a monitoring room at least in the NYC townhouse, so presumably also in the other houses.

There is no list. But there are videos. The FBI took some away in their raid of the NYC house. Presumably they did the same in the other locations.

We will probably never see them. But they exist, and they were used against the people in them.

B.See

(5,964 posts)
35. I believe thinking it's a trap, can be a trap of its own making.
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 08:07 PM
Jul 16

I mean, one has to acknowledge that this thing has Trump & Co. frazzled. To the point where he's calling his own voters STUPID, (not that he's EVER thought otherwise of them), and first there is a list, then there isn't a list, and then Pammie has his royal pumba's permission to release 'credible' info for the non-existing list (notice how he keeps setting up the word 'credible').

Sure they'll either scrub the list, claim it's a fabrication of Democrats... i.e. their usual bullshit spin.

Doesn't mean we should 'forget about it' or let THEM forget about it. On the contrary. Run their faces in it.

Think we can manage to keep up with all the rest.

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