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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe whole Epsein files thing is a trap, and the Dems are walking right into it
This may turn out to be a huge one-sided embarrassment if files were bleached. No MAGA GOP is going to call for the release of something they know will implicate them they way Johnson is now doing today.
This has been one entire week of turning the news cycle away from the tariffs, and the Texas flood failures over what now seems to be a planted story. Gotta stop chasing decoys and distractors...

SoFlaBro
(3,581 posts)Javaman
(64,307 posts)He knows the files will never be released, hes just trying to keep the maga voters in his side
Ocelot II
(126,272 posts)newdeal2
(3,460 posts)Theres no way to walk that back and release the files, even forged ones, and say they are legit now.
Historic NY
(39,157 posts)LisaL
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Jack Valentino
(2,881 posts)mainly on Trump's tariffs raising prices instead of lowering them as he promised,
AND on the impacts of the Big Abominable Bill which Republicans passed,
which some are now trying to run away from....
MAGATS seem to be covering the Epstein issue well enough on their own
comradebillyboy
(10,805 posts)This Epstein thing really is a big deal and it's got MAGA tearing itself apart right now. Dems really don't need to get between the feuding factions.
sheshe2
(93,020 posts)Most likely, but they haven't 'scrubbed' Maxwell or the books/files/videos that she has stashed. They are her insurance policy that has kept her alive.
SheltieLover
(72,128 posts)
sheshe2
(93,020 posts)
Brainfodder
(7,554 posts)Cracks and leaks...
Next up, The Apprentice Files?
Skittles
(166,309 posts)OUT THESE FUCKING PERVERTS ALONG WITH EVERYONE WHO IS COVERING FOR THEM
ENOUGH ALREADY
AZJonnie
(1,100 posts)That is the rub here. If this were a REAL DoJ, and Dems were in charge of the House, I'd agree with you.
But not like this. I agree with the OP in the sense that it could end up hurting us more than helping us
Skittles
(166,309 posts)if they could have scrubbed THEY WOULD HAVE ALREADY DONE THAT
AZJonnie
(1,100 posts)have already probably quit or been fired from DoJ. So any such person will basically be ignored, called 'disgruntled', etc.
Basically, in some way, they will just say "these aren't everything, some things must be protected and/or are sealed by judges" (which I'm certain much of it is), and then it doesn't much matter what "the people who know" have to say about the omissions, cause they never said "it's everything". That avenue is easily defanged and the credulous M$M will help them do so.
Betting that there's *any* chance this DoJ is going to release anything about this case that hurts Trump, or MAGA, is NOT a safe bet. I'd rather it was let lie until we have a Dem POTUS, an honest AG, and control the house. I realize your point is predicated on 'everything being released' and if I thought that could possibly happen, I'd agree. It absolutely will NOT with Trump and Bondi. They are masters at lying, and getting away with it.
AZJonnie
(1,100 posts)And now today, Maureen Comey is fired. Perhaps the most likely to call out a potential Bondi bluff, because she knows what's in the files and she's probably not a huge Trumper. Now she'll be "the disgruntled daughter of disgraced James Comey" if she calls out inaccuracies.
This is why I'm reticent to have *these* people 'release the files'.
orangecrush
(25,868 posts)Interesting hypothesis.
OC375
(140 posts)Perhaps a good way to create space between him and some useful idiots who have reached the end of their shelf life?
Silent Type
(10,552 posts)trump is likely guilty of just about anything one might imagine.
FakeNoose
(38,021 posts)That's why they want it all released. Chump made a campaign promise that he would release Epstein's evidence once he's back in the White House. Isn't it weird that he never said such a thing before, and he was president for 4 years?
Prairie Gates
(5,727 posts)
kennyperkins
(72 posts)The Dems need to keep pushing Esptein and asking for it to be released.
regnaD kciN
(27,198 posts)wouldnt Trump have released it as promised?
valleyrogue
(2,238 posts)If Trump's antics during J6 weren't enough to keep him out of the White House, the Epstein deal certainly won't force him out.
It is a complete waste of time thinking this will sink him.
Cosmocat
(15,216 posts)do we have to go through for people to get it.
And, the country is more gaslit now than ever.
They absolutely would release THEIR version if it came to that, which won't have who they don't want in it and will have who the want to have in it - see Mueller Report.
But, either way, it won't take him down.
They will continue to firehouse bullshit, ginned up issues, scream Biden, Clinton, Obama and far left and three months from now this will be a butterfly fart in the wind.
uncle ray
(3,259 posts)then call me owned.
JT45242
(3,511 posts)Never forget that Maggot Mike, like his mike predecessors Pence and Pompeo actually wants the world to end to start the rapture.
This misguided hypocritical zealot wants to bring on his whacked out view if the revelation. He somehow does not realize that he is on the wrong side of the parable about judgement day and feeding the poor, taking care of the widow and orphan, etc.
He doesn't care if it blows up the party ...because deep down he wants to blow up the world with a huge WW3 that starts in the middle east. Preferably stemming from Israel/Palestine.
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MaineBlueBear
(202 posts)Keep it in the news cycle like we couldn't do with J6
JustAnotherGen
(35,923 posts)We just need to use it as a Cultural Hammer on our opponents - the maga Pub voters.
Who are the pedo lovers now?
BlueTsunami2018
(4,511 posts)It certainly banished everything else from the news. The outrage over the BBB was high on all sides before they decided to use this distraction. Now its as if it never happened.
Political assassinations? Gone.
Tariffs? Gone.
Hideous court rulings? Gone.
There are flight logs and all that but theres no defined list of people who had sex on the island. And even if there was, thats never coming out.
Snipe hunt.
Scrivener7
(56,536 posts)all the houses, and there was a monitoring room at least in the NYC townhouse, so presumably also in the other houses.
There is no list. But there are videos. The FBI took some away in their raid of the NYC house. Presumably they did the same in the other locations.
We will probably never see them. But they exist, and they were used against the people in them.
Blue Full Moon
(2,512 posts)Always projecting, means scrubbing or writing a fake.
B.See
(5,964 posts)I mean, one has to acknowledge that this thing has Trump & Co. frazzled. To the point where he's calling his own voters STUPID, (not that he's EVER thought otherwise of them), and first there is a list, then there isn't a list, and then Pammie has his royal pumba's permission to release 'credible' info for the non-existing list (notice how he keeps setting up the word 'credible').
Sure they'll either scrub the list, claim it's a fabrication of Democrats... i.e. their usual bullshit spin.
Doesn't mean we should 'forget about it' or let THEM forget about it. On the contrary. Run their faces in it.
Think we can manage to keep up with all the rest.