Republicans renew a bid to remove noncitizens from the census tally behind voting maps

[In It to Win It]

Republicans in Congress are reviving a controversial push to alter a key set of census numbers that are used to determine how presidents and members of the U.S. House of Representatives are elected.

Ratified after the Civil War, the 14th Amendment says the "whole number of persons in each state" must be included in what are called apportionment counts, the population numbers based on census results that determine each state's share of House seats and Electoral College votes for a decade.

But GOP lawmakers have now released three bills this year that would use the 2030 census to tally residents without U.S. citizenship, and then subtract some or all of them from the apportionment counts. Republicans on the House Appropriations Committee unveiled the latest bill Monday.

Any attempt to carry out the unprecedented exclusion of millions of noncitizens from the apportionment counts of the 2030 census is likely to undermine the head count's accuracy and face legal challenges, as the first Trump administration did in its failed push for similar changes for the 2020 census.

https://www.npr.org/2025/07/15/nx-s1-5467533/counted-in-the-census-congressional-redistricting-electoral-college

[wolfie001]

1. The SC 6 christo-fascists will green-light all of this

Kinda like having a KKK meet-up in DC every now and then. Just like the 1920s.

[genxlib]

2. I even wonder what the math says on this.

Everyone assumes that California would be a big loser.

But are we certain that Texas and Florida wouldn't lose just as much?

And some of those midwest states have a lot of undocumented working in agriculture and meatpacking. Certainly the numbers are smaller but could still affect their totals.

Apportionment of congressional seats is only the big picture. Allocation of resources matters as well.

[gab13by13]

4. Who counts the people?

My guess is that it will be Magats who redo the maps.

[genxlib]

6. The census counts the people

But the census has always tried to count all the people.

They only want it to count citizens

[gab13by13]

3. Doesn't that mean that California

will lose a lot of Electoral College votes and House members?

Isn't that the point of this?

[mwmisses4289]

5. Seems like it.

Should we point out to these idiots that it means they would also lose? Relavetively speaking, maybe more than them dam librul states this is aimed at?

[JCMach1]

7. Texas and sunbelt would as well

[Jit423]

8. Do red states get to count their prison populations for apportionment? Wonder why they like to build prisons

in their districts? Hmmmm...