Dumb Question of the day: Why do people refer to DJT as Krasnov?

[Jacson6]

[Scrivener7]

1. I believe it's the name by which the KGB refers to him.

[usedtobedemgurl]

2. It is what pooty's people/russian gov called him.

It is his asset name.

[cbabe]

3. That is his Russian asset code name.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

4. In-group vs out-group. "Krasnov" is so that outsiders won't feel as welcome on DU because they don't know the lingo

I know, it is not done on purpose, but that is the effect. I too use nicknames, but I try to use ones that are immediately recognizable. So "tRump", "RepubliCon", "Muck". Sometimes I use terms like Cantaloupe Caligula or Mango Mussolini when the context is clear and at least those have reference to fascism, authoritarianism, and makeup colour. Krasnov is orthogonal.

[edhopper]

8. Not really

It is clearly a reference that he is and has been a Russian asset for decades. It goes to the heart of his tratiorous actions and that he is an enemy of the United States.
It is not an in group cutey nickname, it is a direct accusation of the motivations for his actions.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

13. It is an in-group cutey nickname. Very few people outside of DU know the Krasnov connection.

Also, I think the Putin puppet theory is oversold and overbought on DU. tRump does what he does for narcissistic personal gain. He really doesn't care about anyone else. It is the simplest and most powerful explanation for his actions. We read all the time on right wing sites that "Democrats are actively working to destroy America because they hate it." Flipping it and saying it on DU is just as nonsensical. tRump probably had Russian help in 2016, and he reveres Putin for his authoritarian power and wealth, so for example he was very toady and puppy-doggy at the famous Helsinki summit.

Never forget two key points: 1) Rs and Ds have the same values: freedom, justice, family, country, and religion or rejection of. Ds add broader communities because they have more empathy. 2) They both act semi-rationally and semi-emotionally but have been trained to view things through very different lenses. Personally I think Ds are less trained, more diverse in view point, and clearer in vision.

tRump does not want to destroy the US. He just doesn't care what gets broken and damaged and who gets injured or killed, especially if they are not rich white people, especially males. He doesn't wake up saying "How can I destroy the US?" He wakes up saying "What can I do for myself today?" He thinks he is saving the US and the world from wokism and communism (and that he deserves to be ten times richer and twice as powerful). Hence his aspirations for the Nobel Peace Prize. But he is primarily very self-centered and not hardly at all introspective and has little or no empathy for others. He is famously transactional.

[muriel_volestrangler]

17. No, it's not "clearly", to people who don't spend a lot of time on DU.

If DUers said "Agent Krasnov", then there'd be a clue that it's about a claim he's an asset. But people don't, so it would leave most Americans clueless. It is a nickname. DUers may not intend it to divide readers into an in group and an out group, but it does. Not so much of a problem if the first use of it is inside a thread, but anyone using it in a thread title ought to realise that only regular DUers will know who they mean.

[Blues Heron]

18. Clueless for the fraction of a second it takes to google it. Anybody can look it up and have that lightbulb moment

There’s literally no mystery to it whatsoever.

[muriel_volestrangler]

19. Hah - I suspect you haven't googled it, then

I just tried. I get the Google AI response that it's a Russian surname, in particular a Tsarist general who went on to collaborate with the Nazis, and a Russian-Sebian architect; then I get the Wikipedia entry for the general. Third (and therefore after you've scrolled), I do get a Euronews article about Trump (note that this is "Euronews", not a source many people, especially Americans, turn to for info), then we're back to the general.

All in all, this is not the way to get Americans to read something. Why make someone look something up, rather than talking to them with information they understand at once? It's like a thread with a meaningless title and a video link with no explanation. It divides readers into "those who already know this" and "those who don't, and still don't".

[Blues Heron]

20. Cool story

[edhopper]

22. Fuck AI

first result from my web search.

Fact check: Was Donald Trump recruited by the KGB and codenamed 'Krasnov'?

https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2025/03/13/fact-checking-online-claims-that-donald-trump-was-recruited-by-the-kgb-as-krasnov

[muriel_volestrangler]

23. If you know how to stop google giving an AI result as its first return, I'd love to know

That would be a really useful thing (setting your browser to add "-AI" used to work, but they did something to stop that working).

[edhopper]

24. I do it by not using Google as a search engine

I use Startpage, better results, no tracking.

[edhopper]

21. It is mainly a DU nickname

we agree on that. But I don't think it's only for people who spend "a lot" of time here.

[BoRaGard]

11. Did a psychic channel that speculation about excluding outsiders?

Asking for the tarot card readers.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

14. Psychicisms & tarot are delusional shit. I read the OP who wrote it made them feel "dumb". Not a pleasant feeling. nt

[hot2na]

5. Commrade Kraznov aka Trump

More here on the Krasnov thing:

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[Xavier Breath]

6. "Boris Badenov" was already taken.

[Blues Heron]

7. It has a good ring to it, it kinda fits in in an ironic way, it means beautiful or cutie or hot stuff I think.

When in reality he is a vile orange pig-like creature

[Botany]

9. The KGB gave him that name in 1987 because they knew he was a traitor.

Krasnov fought for the old Czar and Royal Family order in the Bolshevik Revolution during
which he executed > 30,000 White Russians, and in WW II he fought with and for the Nazis.
The Soviet Union executed him after the war.

Look @ his Wiki page.

[BoRaGard]

10. Some say it was Jeffrey Epstein's Pet PlayPal name for the republicon felon

But they say many peculiar things.

[DFW]

12. It has a big advantage, too.

With a little imagination, you don't need a Russian keyboard to write it out or use Character Map one by one.

Краснов

[Jilly_in_VA]

15. I think it's kind of annoying, but whatever

I just call him the orange slime and leave it at that. My friend, who is a tad more charitable that I, refers to him as Dump or Donny Dumptruck.

[efhmc]

16. Good question. Thanks for the replies.