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marmar

(78,555 posts)
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 09:14 AM 23 hrs ago

Ice's 'inhumane' arrest of well-known vineyard manager shakes Oregon wine industry


(Guardian UK) In the early morning hours of 12 June, Moises Sotelo woke up to go to work in the rolling hills of Oregon’s Willamette Valley wine country, a place he has called home for decades.

But this morning was not business as usual. A car tailed Sotelo as soon as he left his driveway, according to an account from his coworker. Trucks surrounded him just outside of St Michael’s Episcopal church, where he was detained by federal immigration agents. By the end of the day, Sotelo was in an Ice detention facility.

“He was in chains at his feet,” Alondra Sotelo-Garcia told a local news outlet about seeing her father arrested. “Shoelaces were taken off, his belt was off, he didn’t have his ring, he didn’t have his watch. Everything was taken from him.”

His detention has sent shockwaves through the tight-knit Oregon wine community. Sotelo is a fixture of local industry – in 2020 he was awarded with the Vineyard Excellence Award from the Oregon Wine Board and in 2024 he established his own small business maintaining vineyards. .................(more)

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/19/oregon-vineyard-manager-arrest-ice




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Ice's 'inhumane' arrest of well-known vineyard manager shakes Oregon wine industry (Original Post) marmar 23 hrs ago OP
This truly breaks my heart ... LaRaven 22 hrs ago #1
Regime Change JustAnotherGen 21 hrs ago #5
What is CSA? Amaryllis 21 hrs ago #12
Confederate States of America littlemissmartypants 21 hrs ago #13
Another dangerous person captured tulipsandroses 22 hrs ago #2
Sounds like a bad dude. Thank god he was apprehended before Wingus Dingus 22 hrs ago #3
For a DUI that doesn't seem to exist... Historic NY 22 hrs ago #4
DUI's are nothing to them, so many have far worse records with devious sexual and fraud crimes. Bev54 21 hrs ago #7
Obviously MS13....🤦‍♂️ ashredux 21 hrs ago #6
Obviously a dangerous drug trafficker. American lives will be saved. Marcuse 21 hrs ago #8
Kind of a mixed message but I get your point and it's a very valid one. littlemissmartypants 21 hrs ago #15
The agents actually said asking questions was "assault" nuxvomica 21 hrs ago #9
Meanwhile a convicted felon sits in the White House Ohioboy 21 hrs ago #10
ICE is the enemy of the people. There's no question about it. Safe as Milk 21 hrs ago #11
ICE's inhumane behavior markie 21 hrs ago #14
Did I miss it? BidenRocks 20 hrs ago #16
his family asserts he entered the US in the early 1990s, and ICE says he entered illegally in 2006. But does it really Native 17 hrs ago #18
ICE hit my Home Depot in San Fernando BidenRocks 13 hrs ago #25
righteous rant, BidenRocks Skittles 13 hrs ago #27
LA is a preview of what's to come for all of us. Native 11 hrs ago #30
Bottom line - they can pick anyone up off the streets for any reason and then just fucking lie about it all. Native 17 hrs ago #17
So, waiting for Melania to smack pedo Trump's hand away Farmer-Rick 15 hrs ago #19
I wouldn't be surprised - I mean his last wife is in a weed patch on one of his golf courses. Native 14 hrs ago #20
And not tell your family: "In response to a Guardian inquiry about whether Ice had no obligation to inform families and Demovictory9 14 hrs ago #23
Exactly - Poof, you're gone. Native 14 hrs ago #24
inhumane and unconstitiutonal Skittles 13 hrs ago #28
Fuck this administration to the hottest circle of hell. Initech 14 hrs ago #21
In response to a Guardian inquiry about whether Ice had no obligation to inform families and attorneys of a detainees st Demovictory9 14 hrs ago #22
"When a large part of the workforce is afraid to come to work or of being detained, everything is affected," King said. riversedge 13 hrs ago #26
Violently fucking up families, community members, dedicated employees and our economy. Fuck ICE. Evolve Dammit 12 hrs ago #29
Surely he has an M-13 tattoo or sports team hat as a giveaway like Garcia live love laugh 9 hrs ago #31
It takes decades to master this expertise wolfie001 28 min ago #32

LaRaven

(138 posts)
1. This truly breaks my heart ...
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 09:30 AM
22 hrs ago

And makes me so angry! We know who the Real Criminals are and they need to be locked up! This is all so cruel and wrong.

His detention has sent shockwaves through the tight-knit Oregon wine community. Sotelo is a fixture of local industry – in 2020 he was awarded with the Vineyard Excellence Award from the Oregon Wine Board and in 2024 he established his own small business maintaining vineyards.

“We built this country on the backs of immigrant labor … To just round them up like criminals and throw them into these overcrowded detention centers, send them packing without telling their family or attorneys where they are or where they’re going, it’s inhumane. It’s a human rights issue.”

Something’s gotta give to Stop this Madness.

(flagpoles, seriously )

JustAnotherGen

(35,370 posts)
5. Regime Change
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 10:16 AM
21 hrs ago

And then bring the maga Repubs to heel. On this Juneteenth remember -

The CSA never went away.

They went underground.

They re-emerged in 2015.

It's enough. This time no voting, no office held for any magas. Nuremberg style trials and swift justice. We do NOT have to go back to the status quo of being manipulated by the legacy media and maga repubs to be gracious winners.

We win - we dominate - and never this way pass again. Germany did not go back to a republic on May 1, 1945. The wall didn't fall until 1989.
Rwanda is STILL having reconciliation trials.

We can do that and still be a democracy.

tulipsandroses

(7,452 posts)
2. Another dangerous person captured
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 09:37 AM
22 hrs ago

We are all safer now. Insert sarcasm thingy.
It was always a lie that they were going after dangerous criminals.

Historic NY

(39,038 posts)
4. For a DUI that doesn't seem to exist...
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 10:00 AM
22 hrs ago

How many Republicans serving have been arrested for DUI?

Bev54

(12,563 posts)
7. DUI's are nothing to them, so many have far worse records with devious sexual and fraud crimes.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 10:26 AM
21 hrs ago

Including the top one.

littlemissmartypants

(28,132 posts)
15. Kind of a mixed message but I get your point and it's a very valid one.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 11:12 AM
21 hrs ago

Alcohol abuse has been on the rise for a few years now. It's being glamorized again. Covid didn't help and it's So addictive.

nuxvomica

(13,387 posts)
9. The agents actually said asking questions was "assault"
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 10:36 AM
21 hrs ago

I underlined it in this excerpt rom the Guardian article:

Victoria Reader, who works for Sotelo as a vineyard manager, would know. She was in the car on 6 June, a week before Sotelo’s arrest, when another employee was also taken. Reader says that agents were masked and refused to identify themselves.

“They didn’t identify themselves. They just came out. They didn’t even say anything. They just started trying to open the doors,” Reader said. “I kept asking, who are you? What are you doing? And they wouldn’t answer.”

Reader said that agents would not tell her what immigration laws her employee violated, threatened her with assault of an officer for asking questions and told her she was not allowed to follow their cars or know where her employee was being taken.

Safe as Milk

(119 posts)
11. ICE is the enemy of the people. There's no question about it.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 10:53 AM
21 hrs ago

By extension, Trump is the enemy of the people. Full stop.

BidenRocks

(1,672 posts)
16. Did I miss it?
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 12:01 PM
20 hrs ago

Where in the OP does it state his status as citizen or migrant.
It matters as citizens are now targets.

Native

(7,110 posts)
18. his family asserts he entered the US in the early 1990s, and ICE says he entered illegally in 2006. But does it really
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 03:07 PM
17 hrs ago

matter? They can take anyone they choose to take.

BidenRocks

(1,672 posts)
25. ICE hit my Home Depot in San Fernando
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 06:22 PM
13 hrs ago

and Loews in Pacoima. This along with ICE across the street at a plumbing supply.
End this chumpian nightmare!
He knows how tight Mexican families are and is intentionally hurting them.

They tried to get into Dodger Stadium this morning and were turned back.
No kudos for the Dodger org as they have been silent on this. Yesterday the Mexican fans were talking a boycott of the games. That is a huge chunk in LA. Only then, today did they speak out. Other teams have already done so.

Another day of being angry. I'm almost looking for a magat to punch. So tired of this shit.

Skittles

(165,095 posts)
27. righteous rant, BidenRocks
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 06:42 PM
13 hrs ago

we are all soooo very tired of this shit and we're not even six months into Trump.2

Native

(7,110 posts)
17. Bottom line - they can pick anyone up off the streets for any reason and then just fucking lie about it all.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 03:05 PM
17 hrs ago

No one is safe. It doesn't matter if you're a citizen of this country, it doesn't matter if you have identification to prove that, nothing matters when they can grab you, shackle you, throw you in a van and whisk you away to parts unknown, asserting that they are required to tell no one where they've taken you. And if your family or attorney hit back, they come back at you with bullshit charges. How can anyone fight that?

Farmer-Rick

(11,783 posts)
19. So, waiting for Melania to smack pedo Trump's hand away
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 04:16 PM
15 hrs ago

Once too often. Then Ice will drag her angry ass away too, along with her string migrating parents and anchor baby. Those Slavic features have that foreign look to them too.

And all those illegal workers Trump hires for that sinking Miami hotel he lives in. Just a matter of time.........

Native

(7,110 posts)
20. I wouldn't be surprised - I mean his last wife is in a weed patch on one of his golf courses.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 05:35 PM
14 hrs ago

Demovictory9

(36,318 posts)
23. And not tell your family: "In response to a Guardian inquiry about whether Ice had no obligation to inform families and
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 05:44 PM
14 hrs ago

Last edited Thu Jun 19, 2025, 07:30 PM - Edit history (1)

In response to a Guardian inquiry about whether Ice had no obligation to inform families and attorneys of a detainees status, a spokesperson for US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (Ice) replied, “that is correct”

Demovictory9

(36,318 posts)
22. In response to a Guardian inquiry about whether Ice had no obligation to inform families and attorneys of a detainees st
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 05:43 PM
14 hrs ago

In response to a Guardian inquiry about whether Ice had no obligation to inform families and attorneys of a detainees status, a spokesperson for US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (Ice) replied, “that is correct”

riversedge

(76,153 posts)
26. "When a large part of the workforce is afraid to come to work or of being detained, everything is affected," King said.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 06:40 PM
13 hrs ago



“When a large part of the workforce is afraid to come to work or of being detained, everything is affected,” King said.

In a statement sent to local outlet KGW, Ice alleged that Sotelo “first entered the United States illegally in 2006” and has a “criminal conviction for DUI in Newberg, Oregon”. Sotelo’s family says that he came to the United States in the early 1990s. The Yamhill county district attorney’s office told local outlets that they had found no evidence of DUI charges.


Sotelo was first taken to a detention facility in Portland. By the weekend, he was in an Ice processing center in Tacoma, Washington. On Tuesday, Van Nice drove up to Tacoma to visit his friend. But Sotelo wasn’t there.

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Victoria Reader (center) works with Moises Sotelo. ‘He took me under his wing and made Oregon feel like home,’ she said. Photograph: Courtesy of the family

On Wednesday morning, Ice’s detainee locator showed that Sotelo had been moved more than 1,500 miles south-west to the Akima-run Florence service processing center in the Arizona desert. Ice did not notify the family or their lawyers about the relocation.

Evolve Dammit

(20,843 posts)
29. Violently fucking up families, community members, dedicated employees and our economy. Fuck ICE.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 08:11 PM
12 hrs ago

wolfie001

(5,353 posts)
32. It takes decades to master this expertise
Fri Jun 20, 2025, 07:46 AM
28 min ago

He's aware of the local grapes and conditions. Truly a master vintner. This is calculated cruelty that will destroy that label. Stupid white christian nationalism, or christian Talibanism.

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