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Me and this guy have been friends for 53 years. The ironic thing is he actually texted me saying "Can we talk? Fuck Trump, piece of shit". After that text we didn't talk until last night. I was flabbergasted and while walking our dogs with my wife she was also blown away but did say, "i hope this isn't like some sort of click bait"
Well last night was proof he was just trying to get me to click. We talked baseball then OF COURSE got into politics. NO, Fuck Trump commentary at all, rather complaining about NO Kings, which I told him I went to a protest and that's first amendment stuff. He did seem to back down on that. Then he doubled down on ICE actions against people basically saying, "get them all out". Again, I tried to argue against it. Then he went off on California and he being a HUGE Civil War (and pro South) asshole was called out on states' rights. Again, he stood down. Didn't really agree with me but then the clincher for me was the murder of the two lawmakers in Minnesota.
He recited the same bullshit ghouls like James Wood, Lara Looner and Mike Lee said. And instead of shutting his fucking mouth and allowing me to actually explain who this guy really he was went off on him being a "Friend of Tampon Tim", i tried to remain sedate but he repeated it a second time. I immediately said, "never call me again and fuck you", threw my phone across the basement floor, retrieved it and blocked his number.
The fact this guy believes this shit is a product of whatever "news" he is consuming. But I can't control what he does/does not listen to, but what I can control is my association with morons and idiots.
Oh it gets better, this same night I goto Facebook and see my moron Aunt literally making posts about how No Kings was an "Anti-American" movement. I never responded to her, but made a couple of very aggressive PRO No Kings posts on my own page. Basically, refuting her. If she blocks me for actually believing first amendment right to free assembly and expression is "anti American" then fuck her too.
My wife posted some pics from the protest and I responded to that, "freedom and Democracy in action, only Nazis and Fascists would have a problem."
I am done with these people. I can't do this anymore. Peace.
I am starting this thread to see if any others have had similar "I can't take this no mo'" experiences?

BOSSHOG
(42,868 posts)THANK YOU MY FRIEND. WELL DONE! Now I will turn my attention to your written word.
I think I get your point.
BOSSHOG
(42,868 posts)To your point, Ive not (yet) had such a conversation but those with maga leaning opinions in our rather small community know Im a fucking commie liberal pinko loaded for bear, and prone to not listening to nonsense. We talk about everything but trump. However Im looking forward to that tipping point. Im also a military retiree which baffles people whom trump loves.
kwolf68
(8,096 posts)Ironically, I stood beside TWO veterans at the No Kings rally, a female (OH MY GOD) and a guy. Both looked either retired or close to that age, not that that matters.
The awesome thing is there was a pride event earlier that day that my wife and I attended and there again were two veterans running interference (what they were doing was holding up this blockade between this crazy religious nut and the pride event). No confrontation, just blocking him from the crowd.
Also, my son US Navy VOTED for Trump in 2016. He voted Harris in 2024. He was in San Diego at the time and wanted to vote in Pennsylvania as that's where he's from. He did everything he could to get his vote in. Pretty proud of him. I never asked him about his 2016 vote of Trump as I don't care to rehash that, so long as he's with us now.
Prof. Toru Tanaka
(2,654 posts)Hopefully he saw enough BS from Trumps first term to get him to see the truth.
SheltieLover
(70,218 posts)

kwolf68
(8,096 posts)I feel fine. He and I had a good run, but the next stage of my life won't include him.
It's so ironic he whined when I didn't choose him as one of my 3 groomsmen at my wedding.
I chose my father (duh) and two other friends. One hates politics and hates Trump, the other (deceased) was a Christian Conservative (I think on the Conservative part), but was awesome. He would often call me just to see what I thought about things. UNLIKE most Republicans he wouldn't preach to me, he'd bring up a topic and listen to me. Looking back on those talks, I miss that. I truly am not sure how he would have voted. He was religious, but it truly seemed like he was trying to do the right thing. I'll never know now.
In retrospect I chose the right 3 men to be in my wedding
SheltieLover
(70,218 posts)The one you dumped was just cluttet, a distraction from your life & well being from the sound of things.
TheBlackAdder
(29,543 posts)Our family has remove all negative influences. Those who we felt obliged to invite, but they just added tension to the events and visits. Now holidays, sports get-togethers and picnics are enjoyable.
SheltieLover
(70,218 posts)
DeeDeeNY
(3,734 posts)You did good, as did your wife.
I let the first one go. But the 2nd one literally set the match off. I was in the basement going bonkers and my wife never showed to ask what was going on. Today she was like "last night was interesting". LOL.
PatSeg
(50,358 posts)He knew what buttons to push because apparently he wanted an argument. I really don't understand people who go out of their way to provoke a fight often with friends or family.
Meanwhile, he knows he isn't going to change your mind, so what on earth does he get out of it aside from losing a friend? Very disturbing behavior.
Skittles
(165,095 posts)that's all it is
littlemissmartypants
(28,136 posts)In 2023, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz signed a law that requires schools provide access to menstrual products in bathrooms regularly used by students in grades 4 to 12.
The law does not distinguish by sex or gender, saying period products "must be available to all menstruating students."
A legal expert from Period Law, a group that advocates for making menstrual products free, said the bill would allow schools to provide period products in boys bathrooms, but it does not mandate the products be provided there. A school that provides products in girls rooms and all gender bathrooms, for example, would be in compliance.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/aug/13/jesse-watters/claim-that-gov-tim-walz-forced-schools-to-stock-ta/#sources
Skittles
(165,095 posts)and there is absolutely wrong with that, unless one is a juvenile misogynist asshole
DeeDeeNY
(3,734 posts)Strong and even-handed, but above all compassionate. MAGAts find that threatening.
littlemissmartypants
(28,136 posts)timms139
(303 posts)Trump knows who's wearing a tampon since he grabs them all .
Dickster
(121 posts)When the Action started in Los Angeles, Shoot them all. Its still there after what happened in Minnesota.
kwolf68
(8,096 posts)No response to that other than, "you just showed how Democracy and freedom dies". Well done, I hope he doesn't revere the American flag.
Skittles
(165,095 posts)what was his opinion of the J6ers?
czarjak
(12,951 posts)calimary
(86,711 posts)Sorry to hear this. Sometimes I fear that the "United States" may have to change its name at some point. Seems to me we are NOT united - by any definition of the word.
pnwmom
(109,912 posts)because he didn't think FB should be a place for politics and I posted too much of that.
That's fine, I have plenty of friends who ARE interested in the articles I post there.
Thank goodness my husband and other close family members are NOT leaning MAGA.
Skittles
(165,095 posts)so.....fucking juvenile
Gimpyknee
(165 posts)kwolf68
(8,096 posts)Good question. My wife wanted has always hated him (for non political reasons as well as political).
She always said, "why are you so loyal to this guy?" I don't know, when you grow up in a heavy metal mosh pit with someone (lol) it's hard to break the bond, but I'm done.
kwolf68
(8,096 posts)Loyalty. That's it. And some innate belief he was better than that. When he texted "fuck trump" i was like WHAT happened. OMG. He is a big fisherman and complains about pollution a lot so I am was thinking maybe that's it. Dunno. But it was all a lie. He's still a fucking sheep.
Yea, my fault. I bought his bullshit. No more. He's history. I don't want fascists in my life.
Grumpy Old Guy
(3,918 posts)I live three miles from the ocean, but there are too many Trumpers on the fishing boats.
Efilroft Sul
(4,051 posts)To pretend otherwise is like being a Civil War re-enactor going over the same old ground and expecting a different result when the outcome was decided long ago. In short, we cannot win the hearts and minds of people who possess neither.
That said, I cut off a whole bunch of MAGA friends and family members throughout the years before I got off Facebook once and for all in 2024. Glad to see you eliminated some toxicity in your life.
kwolf68
(8,096 posts)I actually deleted another clown from Facebook. This guy was truly awful and is a mutual friend of me and this other guy. But I have a few who post crap.
Not sure how to take this. Is this the "arena of ideas"? Should I delete everyone on my friends list who are righties?
I will say this, I had planned to visit fam in North Carolina in October, but that won't be happening. I feel good about that, but it also feels weird to eliminate contact with family and friends because of politics. But I don't think this is "politics" anymore. This is far bigger.
Efilroft Sul
(4,051 posts)Last edited Thu Jun 19, 2025, 11:47 AM - Edit history (1)
It calls into question the empathy and morality of MAGA. Ultimately their lack thereof is a matter of life or death for us, our neighbors, and our nation. There were people who once shared the same ideology as MAGA, who talked like them and hated like them, and previous generations of Americans had to put those fools into early graves during World War II. Pushing MAGA cultists out of our lives now, while they are still alive, is the first step in taking back our personal sanity and country. That's the bare minimum we all need to do, but I expect things will go much farther down the rabbit hole over the summer.
mountain grammy
(27,900 posts)AZ8theist
(6,748 posts)kwolf68
(8,096 posts)I have one friend in Colonial Heights, Virginia who has a friend very politically interested and he's on the left but is swarmed by the maggotts. My friend texts me and says this guy is struggling and frustrated and he likes what I post and wishes he could say what i say. I told him to put him in touch with me, we can be friends. Sure enough he asked for friendship and we have chatted a bit and he's a great fucking dude, but literally it's HIM against 1000 people. If I leave Facebook this guy doesn't have someone like me to talk to. So I stick with it. Can't leave a fellow Democrat behind enemy lines alone.
AZ8theist
(6,748 posts)Why not try Bluesky? Or have them come here. You can always DU mail each other....
(and at this point, ALL OF US are behind enemy lines. The civil war is all around us. )
stillcool
(34,257 posts)to spout off their bullshit, as if they're so proud they memorized the words. Like they live to spout. They have no common decency. I guess when they're with their buds they just talk trash about whoever was on Fox. And that's it?
Pat yourself in the back. Give yourself a hug. Do what you need to do to take good care of yourself.
Now... fuck that Trumper. Great riddance. He's a fucking loser, just like DJT is a loser.
Feel that weight lifted from you? Freed yourself and you deserve it!
I guess I am almost madder at him texting the "fuck trump" shit instead of a text saying, "i love trump, down with the Libs". At least "i love trump" would have been honest.
LOL
Regardless, you have our support!
DENVERPOPS
(12,667 posts)I literally disowned most of my Republican friends during the Cheney/Rumsfeld occupation of the White house..........
The few that remained, I wiped out at the beginning of Trump's occupation of the White House.
Many of us have been screaming our heads off from the rooftops, since HWBush corruptly committed Treason to put Reagan in the White House, with HW as VP.........the first of many Treasonous acts committed by HWBush and his CABAL during the next eight years and for four more during HWBush getting elected. The main reason they had to get HW in the presidency, was at the end of Reagan's occupation of the White House, over 100 of the administration under Reagan were facing FEDERAL charges and were going to trial for acts they had committed, and they needed HW to Pardon them all the minute he got in office, which he did on the first day........
Karasu
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In the '80s and '90s, it was something I was able to look past on occasion, since at that point in time there was at least still some semblance of a shared reality and the concept of objective fact. Bullshit like anti-vaxxers, climate change denial, and abject rejection of science (among a GREAT many other modern RW viewpoints, far too many to list here) were not mainstream. Social media had yet to come along and give every dumbfuck a platform. The world was better for that.
All of that shit is long, long, long gone now. Anyone who somehow still supports that party--for any reason--after everything that's happened in the last decade alone (particularly after 1/6/21) is fascist trash.
kwolf68
(8,096 posts)I am beyond it all. Like I said OVER IT.
These people are fucking ignorant, yet very confident they are right about...EVERYTHING.
And if you don't agree with them you are an infidel, commie, Marxist, libtard. THIS is what is political discourse today.
And because they are stupid, we need to "discredit" smart people, people with research experience in certain disciplines. THATS what the Republican have become, promote what I wish to be true and not what really is.
kwolf68
(8,096 posts)I grew up in the 80s, was a Reagan guy (don't shoot me).
But two things started to make me change. Exxon Valdez spill and crazy rapture loving whack a doodle righties at the 92 Repub convention.
I was like, FUCK THIS noise. Became Libertarian and cast my first Democratic vote for Kerry in 2004. Disgusted he didn't win over Chimp.
At least W devested interest in a fucking baseball team. Trump continues to scam and profit in the White House. Shit...Trump makes W Bush look like fucking Ghandi (ignore the Iraqi invasion on that, lol)
NoMoreRepugs
(11,424 posts)They THINK theyre right, You KNOW you are.
erodriguez
(877 posts)There are several people that I have written off due to their brainwashing by Fox news. I don't see any hope for them. No point in talking to them.
Doodley
(11,064 posts)CanonRay
(15,362 posts)I've no time for fools.
littlemissmartypants
(28,136 posts)Who I used to walk with every day in the evening down the road where we live, where our great great grandparents' house still stands. It's exactly a mile.
But here's the thing she's a racist and a radical Christian who is always bragging about how many times she has read the Bible, preaching hell and damnation, plus trying to convert everyone she meets.
I used to just stay quiet and walk. It's only a mile, I kept telling myself.
One day, I snapped. I gave her the earful she deserved. She lashed out on social media in front of our entire family and then blocked me. I thanked her for the favor in our group because she "saved me the trouble."
I miss our walks. But she's a lunatic.
pat_k
(11,357 posts)Last edited Thu Jun 19, 2025, 01:59 AM - Edit history (1)
I do not have any MAGA people among my family and friends, but do know people who are struggling with it. How to be honest and compassionate? When is it time to stay "No More"?
The only comparison I have happened back in the 2000's with a friend I had valued for many years. I had moved out of state, so we just connected every few months or so. In one phone call, when I was lobbying for impeachment of Bush Cheney for war crimes, I talked about what I was up to. I don't recall exactly what he said, but it was an endorsement of torture. I was shocked and told him I couldn't continue the conversation. I was too shocked.
When I thought I had my feelings a bit sorted, I called him back. I don't recall exactly what I said, but started with how much I valued our connection over the years. That I assumed he knew me well enough to know how highly I valued integrity in personal relationships and our duty as Americans to hold leaders to account on fundamental values, and that perhaps the most basic of those values were the human rights embodied in the Geneva conventions. I asked him if he had meant what he said. That I really wanted to understand what was going on. His response was fox news propaganda. I told him what he sounded like to me and what I was interested in was his personal feelings. When he thinks about those who fought in WWII for the type of values embodied in the conventions, and then thinks about about how those conventions were being broken, what did he feel?
He didn't express any feelings, just more propaganda noises. I told him that as much as I valued how we had supported each other over the years, what he was expressing was breaking my heart and triggered a lot of fear because I didn't want to lose the relationship, but his views were so at odds with my identity I couldn't see our friendship continuing -- particularly in light of the claim he didn't really feel anything about the war crimes, that it was just politics. I told him I'd be happy to talk more when he had had a chance to reflect on his personal feelings.
He called a week or so later expressing upset over this "difference of opinion" being something I would end our friendship over. I tried to explain that to me such fundamental values were not opinion. That there were many things over which the people in my life and I disagree, but that for me, this was too basic. I told him I was so sad it came to this, but I just didn't want someone in my life who apparently didn't value basic human rights. I returned to the question of what he personally felt about torture, and I think I named off a couple other values. Didn't get anywhere. I said this was all too raw. That perhaps at some point in the years to come, we could talk, but that for now, I didn't want to hear from him. He told me that I was being ridiculous.
I did my best to express that his attitude toward my heartfelt needs and feelings in that moment cinched it for me and I said goodbye.
He left messages periodically over the years. We spoke again about a decade ago, but it became clear pretty quick his world view hadn't changed and he thought my feelings were just wrong. I did my best to let him know I could see how my position upset him. If he had questions, I'd try to answer, but we seemed to just cover the same ground. The upshot was me saying something like if he couldn't "get" me on this, it left me questioning whether he ever really "got me" on anything.
I said goodbye again. Who knows. Perhaps he'll shift perspective and want to talk someday, but I'm not holding my breath.
I try to engage. I try to understand. I believe my fellow human beings deserve compassion -- even when they seem to have disowned the compassionate parts of themselves. But compassion is not just about "getting along" -- it is about being honest. It is about setting boundaries, clearly. At no point did I try to coerce or change his mind, or belittle, or shame him. I just asked questions and did my best to give honest responses about where I was coming from as clearly as I was able to in the moment.
Amaryllis
(10,493 posts)Grumpy Old Guy
(3,918 posts)I have a relative who probably won't live much longer. I don't need to reconnect with that person before they die. They burned those bridges years ago.
Your friend was obviously baiting you. Good riddance!
Qutzupalotl
(15,387 posts)Secret police.
samsingh
(18,078 posts)orleans
(36,130 posts)a bigot? a racist? a misogynist? a homophobe? a hypocrite? a self-centered/self-important bully? a delusional trumper dickhead? someone whose morals, values, and ethics are vastly different than yours? someone who doesn't give one shit about things that might be important to you? someone with a total lack of social conscience or social responsibility?
someone who makes you laugh once in awhile or you can go out drinking with but when you take a good look at them you see what an ugly person they truly are? someone without heart or soul?
whatever the good part of the relationship was, was it worth it? worth the aggravation? the insults? the frustration? the anger?
some people have this tendency to think "if i only say the right thing, make them think about something long and hard, tell them enough facts, tell them enough times" they will have a "come to jesus moment" and realize the democrat was right all along and, finally convinced, they now hate trump. BUT is anything a trumper says to you going to make you hate democrats and love donald trump? just like a lot of alcoholics, that change or decision to stop drinking or get help has to come from within themselves.
i have a friend who was always arguing and fighting and referencing facts to trumpers on facebook. it didn't matter how often i'd tell him he wasn't going to change anyone's mind, he kept doing it. he never did change hearts and minds (as far as i know) but then he started a democratic fb page and only allows dems to be a part of it and now he posts political posts to his heart's content and doesn't get into pissing contests with anyone. i'm sure that has had a positive effect on his mental health. i know he's preaching to the choir but so what? he can vent, get constructive feedback, and not be triggered by a bunch of republican/trumper assholes
i'm glad you cut this asshole loose. he sounds like he was a real poison pill.
so congratulations on new beginnings
Karasu
(1,372 posts)kwolf68
(8,096 posts)I guess i had a glimmer of hope he'd see the light. He loves to fish and often complains about the pollution and I'm like well it's your side that doesn't care. Even aligns himself with Native Americans on the environment. But that's all window dressing. He's a drain on me. I went off and didn't like throwing phones and screaming profanities. So partially my fault for that reaction of course, but I allowed the negative stimuli into my life.
Bread and Circuses
(837 posts)I wish all people peace and happiness. But, Im under no moral obligation to share my time with those who actively support fascism through their arrogance, fear , or stupidity.
elleng
(139,790 posts)Jack Valentino
(2,393 posts)and a goodly number of 'conservatives' even agree with that !
Bluesaph
(913 posts)I called my uncle for his 90th birthday. He couldnt stop himself from saying things about how Biden let in all these illegals and now Trump has to be the bad guy. How they use our taxes and their kids go to our schools. I countered with how Im more worried about billionaires not paying taxes and he brushed it off saying all politicians pay back their donors. 🙄
I told him he and his wife should be careful shopping at Cardenas markets (specialty grocery store for Latin foods where we shop) because they are Hispanics with heavy accents and ICE wont be able to tell them apart from the ones hes spewing against. Got quiet for a moment. Let it sink in.
Then I said my goodbye. I wont be calling him again. Good riddance from my life.
blubunyip
(188 posts)but if they persist in their MAGA viewpoint, it's like they've gone away already. Some liberals are way too tolerant, way too nice. We're inclined to give people the benefit of the doubt, disinclined to write them off forever. Magas know this and bank on it. But these current insane times are a clear litmus test. If they like what's going on now, if they have no cognitive dissonance whatsoever, there really is NO hope. Engaging is a waste of time.
Sometimes you just have to show people the boundaries. It can be done without confrontation--in dealing with rigid personality types, you just become scarce, which can be done even if the situation requires further association on occasion. But if you keep close ties with people who you fundamentally do not respect, you will only lose yourself in the end. As the Samurai put it, "Do not allow a place for the sword to enter." A mental thing, not only physical. Do not be suckered back in out of misguided pity, a compassionate heart, or pangs of nostalgia. "He's really a good person" doesn't work as an excuse. (No, he's not). Put compassion elsewhere, deliberately. It's a practice that gets easier with time.
First step is accepting that there is a huge non-negotiable divergence. Congratulations on extricating! Thanks for posting.
Aristus
(70,193 posts)n/t
Paladin
(30,776 posts)Those individuals proved themselves totally unworthy of associating with me. I recommend that others do likewise---just because trump faces virtually no negative consequences for his crazed fascist takeover attempts, doesn't mean that his followers should get away with it. Maintaining your relationships with MAGATs just empowers and encourages them---cut them off.
Mblaze
(590 posts)Because my Republican family always has a 4th of July picnic which is a no-politics zone. That has worked for a while but this year, "no-politics" is just too much whistling past the graveyard for me. I'm not going and Trump's presidency is exactly the reason why.
I usually put family above politics but I can't do that this year.
they want us to be quiet- only they can speak
they want us to be subservient- to own the libs
they want us to adopt their ideas- to brainwash us
and they pretend to be holier than thou
so I have unfriended many but I won't stop being who I am
I will protest, I will be on fb for other family members, I will
speak out and I will resist.
it is my right and that is your right too.
kwolf68
(8,096 posts)I will stand up, be counted and voice my concerns about what is happening in this nation. It's not going to get any prettier or easier as the media fails to do its job as watchdogs of our Democracy and we crawl into our insular enclaves.
Nigrum Cattus
(640 posts)They combine RWRE with disinfo on the "social media"
sites and here we are !
RWRE = right wing religious extremist
project 2025 top to bottom
Chi67
(1,222 posts)I have had to do the same with a few people. Its unfortunate, but necessary for your sanity.
slightlv
(5,875 posts)I finally accepted an invitation to my friends barbecue. The maga husband amd his wife moved in next door to her, so they'll be there. Ive avoided them until now but my friends husband is so sweet and helpful and almost was my son in law many years ago. I miss him. These guys are true blue dems. I don't know how they handle the other couple, except they been friends since school.
Anyway something is innocuous is usually said by someone and he's off on his libertarian rant. Followed by me and my big mouth. I'm thinking of just excusing myself if the same happens tomorrow and going back home. It will take an act of will tho, because I've not been in a good place and really want to lash out at someone.
OMGWTF
(4,778 posts)This of course, includes all MAGAts and Rethuglicans. It's a peaceful way to live. At this point, they've proven they are irredeemable.
Abstractartist
(255 posts)I used to work in medicine. Although, I did not work in psychiatry, I knew many psychiatrists at our hospital. I remember one older doc
😆 he always reminded me of Sigmund Freud
the beard and everything
. So anyway, he told me this one thing that stuck with me for years
He told me
You must always look after yourself first. Yes, you love your wife, children, parents, but you are the most important person in your life. If you get involved with something or someone that is not seemingly good for you, you must completely remove that or them from your life forever.
I will always remember that one statement, and have followed it for a good number of years
. Why stay friends with some who does not agree with your life or lifestyle. You will be better off without them/it.
Terryshine
(34 posts)soldierant
(8,623 posts)ghosted me some years ago. I am sad about it, but am also not up for making any more effort to reestablish contact.
orangecrush
(25,119 posts)If I am willing to listen to theirs, no matter how much I disagree.
I am not losing friends or family for Donald fucking Trump if I can help it.
IrishBubbaLiberal
(2,178 posts)I have ZERO tolerance for Trump supporters.
I have ended using subcontractors that are MAGA nuts.
I have had enough of any service workers who are MAGA.
The local breakfast diner, I always joke and talk and usually put in a
slam at Trump
one of the wait staff obviously was MAGA,,
So now I never sit in her section if at all possible,
Theres another great progressive waitress that we always try to
get a table
chouchou
(1,991 posts)Most of it was: "So you want a King. You want to throw away your rights and the Constitution?"
"How about getting a King that's highly Intelligent, Passionate, well read, kind, understanding and a cornucopia
of all the best that humanity has to offer....BUt NO...Jesus Christ..You pick a walking human-cockroach that can barely spell
"Spell". A person that by-all-means, should be locked up in a dungeon on an island in the middle of the pacific ocean"
And..."What the fuck is wrong with you"
Hears MY THOUGHT>> I see that when you go the the grocery store, you buy a large vat of vomit.
That's akin to worshiping Donald Trump
Festivito
(13,733 posts)Sounds like he tried to sucker you into a lecture. That is sad.
Although, I love the opportunity to correct bad information, it may not work.
When they try the repetition, I ask them: Are you trying to convince me, or are you trying to convince yourself.
Terryshine
(34 posts)Now. But you didnt end them in 2016 or 2020. Okay.
Americanme
(227 posts)My older brother has no computer, has no smart phone. Loves Fox News. He tells me he thinks I am wrong, but we do have good conversations, and he listens, or pretends to. We are close, regardless. My younger brother is a radical. He will get in yelling matches, with me, with our mother, with complete strangers when he overhears them disrespecting his cult leader. I went to his house with our older brother last weekend, to climb on his roof and trim tree limbs away, so roofers can work. He was sobbing to our mother that he couldn't do it. In the course of the work, we were talking about Social Security and Medicare. My brothers are both positive that the entire problem is fraud committed by poor people. I said Rick Scott was a bigger fraud problem, and instead of punishment, he got elected to public office. Little bro did not like that, yelled at me, said we cannot talk about his party, because he has very strong feelings. Well, I have strong feelings too, but his are more important, I guess. Anyway, now that he doesn't need anything, I'm sure it will be a few years before we speak again. We live less than 2 miles apart, but we only speak every few years. He is a moocher and a chronic complainer, and he is sure the problem is always someone else.
luvallpeeps
(1,210 posts)If they havent got it by now, they dont want to. No sense in beating a dead horse. This isnt merely policy disagreements. This is flat out who they are in their hearts, and what they believe America should be. Its been real, but I dont owe anyone an explanation. Really sad, but had to happen. I still love them. I just dont feel the same about them.
Evolve Dammit
(20,843 posts)and any kind of regulation by the government (who does some pretty amazing work BTW). I too, have thrown a device, although it was an NFL playoff game. It was a tv remote.
Don't blame you at all. They need to know but sadly, are up to their eyeballs in RW Kool-aid and I regard them as hopeless deplorables (to be kind). Life is too short to deal with numbskulls.
LetMyPeopleVote
(164,958 posts)

legallyblondeNYC
(95 posts)Friendship is voluntary.
And remember, we are all connected, so kindness will bring about more kindness.
kwolf68
(8,096 posts)So my friend is in rural Virginia, which is where I grew up. I live in Pittsburgh now and all our friends here are interesting and intelligent. There is even a Liberal group of people who get together with now and then at each other's house just to hang out and have food or drink. Wife and I went to a No Kings rally here too. I have always been politically engaged, but that is the very first time I've been to a political event like that. Just felt I needed to do it. Wife advertised on Facebook we went and I responded. Not backing down from these bastards anymore. Hell before that we had gone to a Pride event. Two of our closest friends are a gay couple and I love those guys so much. I'd be insane if anyone ever hurt either and the fascists are trying to hurt them. I was happy to goto the pride event and had as much fun there as the No Kings thing, since it was significantly smaller and there was a religious nutjob "protesting" we were kinda laughing and making fun of him.
mdbl
(6,719 posts)I don't associate with anyone even relatives that spew that crap.
oasis
(52,377 posts)
kwolf68
(8,096 posts)Wondering, any meaning to your username of "oasis"? Asking for a friend from Manchester, England.
oasis
(52,377 posts)by Scalias rogue Supreme Court, I was searching for a place to vent my rage with likeminded souls.
I found DU after lurking on MediaWhoresonline and Bartcop.
DU was, and is, my oasis.
I ventured here around the Bush years. I grew up "Republican", but was always progressive on social issues. I was like why the fuck do we care what gay people do and women should control their own bodies. So I was a really BAD Republican. So went Libertarian after the 1992 Republican culture war convention, but HATED Liberals in the 1990s thanks to Rush, Liddy, and Mike Savage telling me Liberals were going to kill the nation. I did NOT vote for Gore in 2000 (vote Libertarian) but since 2004 (Kerry) I've always voted for the Democrats. And yea I remember DU being a nice safe haven after the Pretzeldent came to power with his redneck stomp.