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Botany

(73,848 posts)
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 08:56 AM 5 hrs ago

Why aren't Musk and his employees the Doge Boys under arrest right now? This was an act of espionage

Whistleblower claims DOGE gave Russia access to US data via Starlink

Good God in butter. America is fucked and Trump is working with Musk to burn America to
the ground. Election rigging unAmerican traitors are burning America to the ground on Putin’s
orders. Why aren’t they under arrest right now? Doge and Musk stole the passwords to the
DOE’s oversight of our nuclear weapons and sent that top secret information to Putin and his
GRU via Starlink. Within hours of getting that top secret information Russians were trying to
log into the DOE’s computers that had oversight of our nuclear materials.

This is part of the biggest criminal operation in America’s history that started with Russia installing
Trump as President in 2016.

(BTW why do I think that Musk was deep into the 2024 elections?)

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A whistleblower has alleged that DOGE systems linked to Elon Musk’s Starlink network were used by Russian IP addresses to access US government databases, raising fresh concerns over national security and infrastructure exposure.

Daniel Berulis, appearing on MSNBC's The Rachel Maddow Show alongside his lawyer Andrew Bakaj, claimed that DOGE systems were compromised and used by Russian actors to breach US government databases.

According to Berulis, unauthorised access was gained using recently created user credentials tied to Russian IP addresses.

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The whistleblower's claims included implications that DOGE engineers may have exposed critical infrastructure systems, including those within the US Department of Energy and agencies responsible for nuclear stockpile oversight. “It’s now open to the internet, which means foreign adversaries, like Russia, can and may have access to all of that,” Bakaj warned.

In a related claim, Bakaj said Berulis received a threatening note accompanied by a drone-captured photo of him walking his dog, raising concerns about whistleblower intimidation.


https://tribune.com.pk/story/2540291/whistleblower-claims-doge-gave-russia-access-to-us-data-via-starlink

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Meanwhile the DoJ, the State Department, and our intelligence agencies under Gabbard who is a
Russian asset have now all said they would no longer be looking @ foreign interference in America.

But really what about Hillary’s emails?

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Why aren't Musk and his employees the Doge Boys under arrest right now? This was an act of espionage (Original Post) Botany 5 hrs ago OP
There is no one to arrest Trump and his army of lawbreakers because he has turned the DOJ into his Gestapo. Lonestarblue 5 hrs ago #1
Same as he did in his first term with that pig Bill Barr Meadowoak 5 hrs ago #3
This is a war against the Constitution and Putin's foot soldiers Bluethroughu 5 hrs ago #2
This is why Trump had to get control of the DOJ, FBI, national security agencies. Irish_Dem 5 hrs ago #4
Yup this was in the works for a long time. Botany 4 hrs ago #7
It happened gradually and then suddenly. Irish_Dem 3 hrs ago #14
Great question malaise 5 hrs ago #5
The rule of law is dead. SamKnause 4 hrs ago #6
At least for now........... Bengus81 3 hrs ago #15
Kick SheltieLover 4 hrs ago #8
Simple - they are ALL traitors. dchill 4 hrs ago #9
Krasnov and his band of traitors have exposed the flaws Joinfortmill 4 hrs ago #10
Bondi is on it. Sneederbunk 3 hrs ago #11
Krasnov has owned her since he bribed her 25 k in 2013 not to prosecute him for his Trump U. scam Botany 3 hrs ago #12
There are no statutes of limitation C_U_L8R 3 hrs ago #13
Facile answer: Due process. Igel 3 hrs ago #16
How about there's ample evidence of multiple crimes... paleotn 1 hr ago #20
Trump has declared that we are at war with Venezuela and has used that to justify use of the Alien Enemies Act. colorado_ufo 3 hrs ago #17
It was evident early on that information was one of the driving forces behind the Musk attack on Govt. Agencies. patphil 3 hrs ago #18
They are not under arrest Mblaze 2 hrs ago #19
Yes Elon and the doge hackers belong in prison annielion 7 min ago #21
I assume that's rhetorical... OneGrassRoot 4 min ago #22

Lonestarblue

(12,550 posts)
1. There is no one to arrest Trump and his army of lawbreakers because he has turned the DOJ into his Gestapo.
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 08:59 AM
5 hrs ago

Bluethroughu

(7,156 posts)
2. This is a war against the Constitution and Putin's foot soldiers
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 09:00 AM
5 hrs ago

in our government aka Republican party, Elon, and Donald are carrying it out.

Irish_Dem

(68,207 posts)
4. This is why Trump had to get control of the DOJ, FBI, national security agencies.
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 09:02 AM
5 hrs ago

And destroy all the checks and balances.
And all the security apparatuses.

To allow Putin to take over the country.

Botany

(73,848 posts)
7. Yup this was in the works for a long time.
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 09:34 AM
4 hrs ago

Bondi fires all FBI agents who support the rule of law and then says the DoJ will no longer
be looking into foreign influence (my guess Russian) into America’s election, government,
media, or misinformation campaigns such as the danger of a trans girl playing on her high
school softball team.

Rubio says the State Department will no longer be trying to stop foreign (Russian) operations
and closes down “The Voice of America.”

Gabbard is an outright Russian asset and is in charge of intelligence services.

Krasnov (Trump) is owned by Putin.

Irish_Dem

(68,207 posts)
14. It happened gradually and then suddenly.
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 10:55 AM
3 hrs ago

Yes we are a Russian colony now, ruled by Putin's puppets.

Botany

(73,848 posts)
12. Krasnov has owned her since he bribed her 25 k in 2013 not to prosecute him for his Trump U. scam
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 10:28 AM
3 hrs ago

You know the scam where he stole money from people including the spouses of dead soldiers and
in some cases taking the widow’s death benefit money to take his phony real estate classes.

Bondi we will not be looking into “foreign interference” into America and now the head of
our intelligence services is Tulsi Gabbard who is a Russian asset. How convenient.



C_U_L8R

(47,114 posts)
13. There are no statutes of limitation
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 10:33 AM
3 hrs ago

for treason or capital espionage.
Another most excellent accomplishment by the Doge dumbasses.

Igel

(36,707 posts)
16. Facile answer: Due process.
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 11:03 AM
3 hrs ago

There's a claim.

The response to any claim is immediate sentencing. Let things like finding probable cause, indictment, trial by jury and then sentencing by a judge play out ... When we get around to it.

Sound good for a liberal democracy?

Even in high-school science a big push is to move away from the "scientific method", which sounds too straitjacketed, and go to "CER": claim, evidence, response (and I like adding a second "R", rebuttal, since it's a conversation and not a claim-counterclaim-done.)

Round 2. There was an in-house investigation that turned up nothing of consequence. Yes, it was biased. But the next question has to be whether or not the whistle-blower is biased. I mean, we dissed some whistle-blowers under Biden as not worth the time to actually hear.

Esp. since a the claims are all circumstantial. "This happened ... And it must be, I think, because of...." kinds of quotes. And even without the "I think" bit it's still a claim with evidence that's alluded to but which cannot actually be produced (or, if it can be, hasn't been--assuming it still exists).

paleotn

(20,259 posts)
20. How about there's ample evidence of multiple crimes...
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 12:22 PM
1 hr ago

but those who would investigate and bring charges are in cahoots with the potential perps. Your response is an obfuscation of the OPs point. And don't give me "well that's what they typed" bullshit. Generally speaking, those charged with espionage, who are significant flight risks, aren't granted bail. Nor should they be. So yes, in a normal world, they'd be in the pen awaiting trial. In any sane administration, we'd be well past investigate, charge and up to arrest in a situation as grave and dangerous as this. That's the point.

Since this appears to be sore point with you, my solution will really curl your hair. Once we get out of this mess, the Feds investigate just so we can figure out who to summarily execute. Put the democracy and Constitution on pause for a bit and go all Cicero on their asses as just punishment and a warning. Seriously, what's the point of the rules based system if you're the only one following the rules, and by following them to the letter, the whole goddamn system burns down around your head? Our democracy, like the Roman Republic, isn't a suicide pact. Sure, we could feel good about ourselves while slowly dying in a gulag. But to what point exactly?

OK, OK, if it makes you happy, we'll Nuremberg them like the Nazis. Then we'll hang the bastards Italian style. All of them.

colorado_ufo

(6,042 posts)
17. Trump has declared that we are at war with Venezuela and has used that to justify use of the Alien Enemies Act.
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 11:08 AM
3 hrs ago

Treason during wartime, if I remember correctly, carries the death penalty.

patphil

(7,682 posts)
18. It was evident early on that information was one of the driving forces behind the Musk attack on Govt. Agencies.
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 11:10 AM
3 hrs ago

Information is power, and is very marketable.
When you add it all together, the information taken from all these agencies constructs a very complete picture of our government, our infrastructure, our defense, the make up of our society, and detailed personal information on every citizen.
It's value is limitless.
In the hands of hostile nations, it represents a very serious threat to the United States.
That alone is absolute proof of the malicious intent of the Trump/Musk presidency.
Essentially, they are seriously weakening our government, while empowering our enemies.
This is a recipe for disaster.
I don't know if we can survive 2 years of this, let alone 4.
What's been done so far is more than enough to convict these bastards of Sedition, Espionage, and, ultimately, Treason.

Mblaze

(534 posts)
19. They are not under arrest
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 11:30 AM
2 hrs ago

Because we have a Republican Congress and Pam Bondi is our Attorney General.

annielion

(31 posts)
21. Yes Elon and the doge hackers belong in prison
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 02:05 PM
7 min ago

Elon and his little hackers scare me even more than Trump. I see things falling apart for Trump and the Trumpers now with people (including the SCOTUS) pushing back hard.
Elon said when "campaigning" in Pennsylvania "We should be hand-counting paper ballots.... It's just too easy to change one line in a computer program." So he did.
Stolen elections have consequences. There is lots of evidence of vote manipulation. See ElectionTruthAlliance.org

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