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Florida State University shooter Phoenix Ikner touted vile white supremacist views that raised serious concerns among his classmates including that Rosa Parks was in the wrong and that black people were destroying his community.Ikner, who allegedly killed two people and wounded six others when he opened fire on campus Thursday, horrified other students with his gross racial rhetoric.
https://nypost.com/2025/04/18/us-news/fsu-shooter-phoenix-ikner-allegedly-promoted-white-supremacist-views-spewed-racist-vitriol-against-black-people-report/

FalloutShelter
(13,264 posts)2naSalit
(96,423 posts)
malaise
(283,038 posts)malaise
(283,038 posts)Last edited Fri Apr 18, 2025, 11:14 AM - Edit history (1)
McNeil added that the 20-year-old suspect was also a "long-standing member" of the Leon County Sheriff's Office's Youth Advisory Council.Pheonix had been "steeped in the Leon County Sheriff's Office family," McNeil said, adding, "It's not a surprise to us that he had access to weapons," he added.
https://abc7ny.com/post/fsu-shooting-phoenix-ikner-alleged-florida-state-university-gunman-is-son-local-sheriffs-deputy-police-say/16192709/
Baitball Blogger
(49,805 posts)Hiding in plain sight because his views are not out of place with those he associates with.
chicoescuela
(1,960 posts)eppur_se_muova
(38,866 posts)A Southern sheriff's office is a haven for racists ? Color me shocked.
malaise
(283,038 posts)Were these hate crimes?
eppur_se_muova
(38,866 posts)malaise
(283,038 posts)Thanks
Pacifist Patriot
(24,966 posts)Knowing the shooter's views, I strongly suspect hate crime motivation. Whether he went in indiscriminately shooting or choosing victims based on appearance, we have no idea yet.
Pacifist Patriot
(24,966 posts)His views were known back when he was a high school student and many in his orbit found him "creepy" and "disturbing."
Keep in mind that Tallahassee is very much a college town. It is home to Florida State University, Florida A&M, and Tallahassee State College.
No, it isn't shocking that a sheriff's deputy's kid would have white supremacist and pro-Trump views. But the area he group up in is way more left-leaning than right.
eppur_se_muova
(38,866 posts)that is a pretty low bar. Many Southerners see their primary -- all too often -- only connection with universities as being affiliated with a football team, and an awesomely god-like coach. Ask them about their years spent in college and they'll describe pep rallies and championships won or lost. If you remember to ask them, they may mention what degree they sought there.
ScratchCat
(2,654 posts)50-year resident of Tallahassee here...
Its only "blue" because of a large African American population(33%) and the Universities/Medical centers. The two counties that bookend Leon are 50% plus AA as well. Outside that, this is just like any other "flyover" area of north Florida with Trump flags and yahoos. Rival college sports fans call us "Trailerhassee". The city just has an unusual demographic. Its not really "blue" like other areas in "blue states" may be.
Pacifist Patriot
(24,966 posts)The fact that it is because of the AA population and the universities doesn't matter. They break Democratic in an area otherwise solidly red.
Tommy Carcetti
(43,858 posts)Being a college town.
Outside of Tallahassee and I believe one or two black majority counties, that's a fair assessment for most of the Panhandle.
MagickMuffin
(17,563 posts)They groomed him good, they created this monster.
I hope he serves the rest of his miserable life behind bars and never released to walk the streets as a free man ever again.
sop
(13,735 posts)This sort of hardcore racism begins in the home.
atreides1
(16,617 posts)Children learn from their parents...
Happy Hoosier
(8,882 posts)ZDU
(298 posts)it's "Flaw-a-duh"
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Tommy Carcetti
(43,858 posts)It's okay.
JI7
(91,773 posts)Pacifist Patriot
(24,966 posts)NCDem47
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We would NEVER have heard the end of it if the shooter was anything but white (and likely straight and Christian)
He'll be described as a "lone wolf" and "possibly mentally ill" with "no clear motive at this time."
"Authorities say that investigations are ongoing and that they will release details to the public once more is known."
V850i
(99 posts)We shouldnt leave that affiliation to the imagination. Call it out every time!
Cirsium
(2,312 posts)Right wing white supremacist terrorist.
gulliver
(13,412 posts)I want the whole story. Was he on psychiatric meds? For how long? Were there red flags in the past? Did he go to public or private school? What was his upbringing like?
The trouble with the news is that it tends to give people the information they want, but they don't want good information.
hadEnuf
(3,110 posts)He's a White Supremacist, MAGA, Nazi asshole who murders innocent people in the name of his filthy social ideology.
That's all I need to know.
Zero questions and zero tolerance for these scumbags.
gulliver
(13,412 posts)I don't see him only as the role he chose to play, possibly after he was warped or just plain broken by our dumb society. I want the context. Is this guy's brokenness the same as shooters of other supposed "ideologies?" Is there just one root "shooter" ideology that results in flags and manifestos?
Cirsium
(2,312 posts)Do you not see Trump "only as the role he chose to play?" Do you need to understand his background and why he is broken? Trump's political career is "the role he chose to play, possibly after he was warped or just plain broken."
White nationalism is a political movement, a social phenomenon. It encourages violence and hate crimes. Focusing on the individual actor obscures that fact and is misleading.
hadEnuf
(3,110 posts)and then the right wing totally ignoring it or trying to blame someone else, like Democrats.
They are animals, period.
UpInArms
(52,587 posts)gulliver
(13,412 posts)And it's good to see ABC tracking it down and reporting it.
BoRaGard
(4,988 posts)Thou Shalt Not Kill.
Fil1957
(45 posts)IronLionZion
(48,488 posts)or will he get the mental illness excuse? He has dual citizenship with Norway so we could revoke his US citizenship.
https://nypost.com/2025/04/18/us-news/fsu-shooter-phoenix-ikner-biological-mom-anne-mari-eriksen-kidnapped-him-amid-custody-battle/
TheBlackAdder
(29,454 posts)Ray Bruns
(5,141 posts)Whaat the fuck?
Pacifist Patriot
(24,966 posts)To be extremely clear, TSC-PD is NOT a right-wing organization. Far from it. This group is largely comprised of serious students of political science and international relations participating on a forum to discuss politics. I'm personally acquainted with one of the members.
They found him disturbing and immediately reported him as a white supremacist who openly espoused far-right views when introducing himself in classes. He has not been an active participant in their discussion lately, but most of the members were familiar with him, some having had classes with him.
I received information from my daughter yesterday who is friends with one of his high school classmates at Lincoln High in Tallahassee. He wore his extremist pro-Trump views on his sleeves (and apparently his head) in high school as well.
Leon county/Tallahassee is a relatively blue dot in a sea of red in Florida.
I really wish the media would lead with this. It absolutely is the motivating factor for his horrifying actions yesterday.
malaise
(283,038 posts)Thanks
Jacson6
(1,134 posts)angrychair
(10,542 posts)When I heard he was a white supremacist. In my experience the two go hand in hand.
Often people that are misogynistic, xenophobic, bigoted or racist are also plagued with mental health issues.
The hate and anger these people bottle up in themselves is like building the foundation of your mental stability in loss sand.
GoYouPackersGo
(230 posts)He sounds a lot like my in-laws, actually.
SheltieLover
(66,489 posts)
sunflowerseed
(403 posts)AverageOldGuy
(2,532 posts)AG Pam Bondi will appoint DOJ lawyers to defend him.
Orrex
(65,020 posts)Totally unconnected to the hateful, bigoted, and xenophobic bullshit that Trump and his vile ilk have been spewing nonstop for years.
SheltieLover
(66,489 posts)I call bs on this! Everyone has issues to deal with but only sociopaths kill people!
dem4decades
(12,637 posts)Traildogbob
(10,944 posts)Terroristic Killer Gang residing in the U.S. all identified by their hat, no not a bulls hat, that is a real threat to every American is MAGA. Not Thirteen, not ISIS, not Taliban. It is trump, his cult and his Media. All of us are in the direct line of fire. And our justice system is in the gang. How many soldiers have died in other countries to keep terrorist out of here?
Now the gang leader was appointed as President.
All the weapons made are easy to get and allowed to be carried anywhere, especially in Floraduh, for this gang.
OK MAGA gun humpers, people kill, not guns. Well, go after the people that are saying out loud, they gonna kill.
Will he get Rittenhouse treatment, speaking ops at GQP events?
One Hat is a gang ID that is welcome in GQP.
Those trump head lapel pins, should be a one way ticket to El Salvador.
At the rate MAGA kills, Musk has gotta up his baby making to populate the world.
orangecrush
(24,196 posts)young_at_heart
(3,917 posts)It seems a lot of Americans really aren't traumatized at all by this incident because it has been "normalized"!
Zambero
(9,829 posts)DeSantis once boasted that Florida was "A place where woke goes to die". And indeed, examples of this "astute" observation are very much in evidence.
louis-t
(24,237 posts)maga!!!!
Warpy
(113,216 posts)All he had going for him was a low amount of melanin in his skin.
He'll like prison, it will make him even paler.
Stupid jerk.
tonekat
(2,201 posts)MSM is choosing to leave out those inconvenient details about his white supremacy.
kimbutgar
(24,844 posts)No wonder he did what he did between his traumatic childhood and probably being infused with right wing hate everyday growing up and being such a jerk no women would want to be with him why am I not surprised?
Sorry for the run on sentence!
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LetMyPeopleVote
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malaise
(283,038 posts)Norrrm
(1,208 posts)malaise
(283,038 posts)Phew
malaise
(283,038 posts)From Erickson (mothers surname) to Phoenix Ikner(fathers surname).
Report said the Phoenix part was about rising from the ashes of childhood trauma.
So you know whats coming - lone wolf, childhood trauma, not white supremacist.
RJ-MacReady
(365 posts)We need to paint this guy as the typical MAGAt supporter. Completely pin this on MAGAt ideology.