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kentuck

(113,501 posts)
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 08:46 AM Yesterday

"high crimes and misdemeanors"?

If articles of impeachment were filed against Donald Trump once again, would the Republican House pass them? Probably not?

So what would be the purpose of filing impeachment charges?

Were there high crimes and misdemeanors committed? Federal Judges are considering criminal contempt for ignoring a court order from the Supreme Court. I would say that is rather serious. The regime is involved in a heinous activity of shipping alleged terrorists out of this country into something resembling a
concentration camp in El Salvador. Congress should act.

Would it benefit Republicans to vote against impeachment? Would it hurt Democrats politically?

In my opinion, it needs to be done and it would be politically advantageous to the Democrats. It would force Republicans to take a stand. No doubt, they would try to paint Trump as a "victim" once again. But, could they sell it to the American people?

It would be a bonus opportunity for the Republicans to finally rid themselves of the plague that is slowly enveloping their Party. If they voted for Trump once again, and against our Constitution, I do not think they would be rewarded at the polls?

Democrats have been snake-bitten by the impeachment process and would be very hesitant to use it again, in my opinion.

But, they should.

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"high crimes and misdemeanors"? (Original Post) kentuck Yesterday OP
Al Green will introduce impeachment. FalloutShelter Yesterday #1
Abrogating due process, habeas corpus with detention, deportation are not "official duties". bucolic_frolic Yesterday #2
The process of impeachment begins in the House of Representatives. surfered Yesterday #3
Impeachment does not require violations of criminal statutes Fiendish Thingy Yesterday #4
Secret ballots Ferryboat 23 hrs ago #5

bucolic_frolic

(49,812 posts)
2. Abrogating due process, habeas corpus with detention, deportation are not "official duties".
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 08:56 AM
Yesterday

These actions are indefensible. Judge Wilkinson who wrote yesterday's opinion is a conservative Reagan appointee who supports presidential power, yet even he found the flaws in these actions. If citizens don't have rights there is no country of laws. I could foresee a world where we all face deportation if we don't pay up, a shakedown in other words.

"Official duties" will become a phrase. The die is cast. This is unstoppable because this is the incident that people feel. It's the same as DOGE, ripping everything apart against our will and our votes.

surfered

(6,207 posts)
3. The process of impeachment begins in the House of Representatives.
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 08:57 AM
Yesterday

It begins when a Member files articles of impeachment which goes to the House Judiciary Committee. The Articles cannot go to the floor for a vote without the Committee voting in the affirmative to do so.

With Republicans controlling the Committee and the House, the effort is unlikely to succeed. They’ve stuck with him so far.



The House’s Role

The House may bring impeachment charges against federal officials as part of its oversight and investigatory responsibilities. Often, the process begins when a lawmaker introduces an impeachment resolution, or when the House initiates proceedings by passing a resolution authorizing an inquiry. The Committee on the Judiciary ordinarily has jurisdiction over impeachments, but special committees have investigated charges before the creation of the Judiciary Committee in 1813. The committee then chooses whether to pursue articles of impeachment against the accused official and report them to the full House. If the articles are adopted (by simple majority vote), the House appoints Members by resolution to manage the ensuing Senate trial on its behalf. These managers act as prosecutors in the Senate and have historically been members of the Judiciary Committee. The number of managers has varied across impeachment trials but has traditionally been an odd number. The partisan composition of managers has also varied depending on the nature of the impeachment. But the managers, by definition, always support the House’s impeachment action.

Fiendish Thingy

(19,077 posts)
4. Impeachment does not require violations of criminal statutes
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 09:51 AM
Yesterday

High crimes and misdemeanours can be whatever congress says they are, since impeachment is a congressional, not criminal, procedure- no due process, not subject to review by any court.

Ferryboat

(1,147 posts)
5. Secret ballots
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 10:19 AM
23 hrs ago

Policitial figures need cover for these upcoming votes.

Repugs have voiced fear of maga voters coming after them. If it had been a secret ballot last go around he wouldn't be in office today.

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