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Pacifist Patriot

(24,966 posts)
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 08:23 AM Yesterday

"I'm okay, mom. I'm safe. Hope you're busy working and not watching the news. Love you!" 12:07 p.m. 04/17/25

That was the first of an avalanche of texts I received while in a Zoom meeting yesterday. Everyone in my life who knows my son works at FSU texted to tell me the news of the active shooter.

I know the campus well. My son earned both his bachelor's and master's degrees there and now works for the university. My daughter earned her bachelor's and started her master's degree there. It has been a second home for us for a decade. Literally, I co-own a condo with my son in Tally.

Over the the next few hours I learned that:

* my neighbor's son was locked down in Bellamy, a kid I have adored since he was in diapers, texting my son how terrified he was but didn't want his parents to know.
* one of my daughter's friends was in Oglesby at the time of the shooting texting with her in Boston to try to stay calm. She didn't realize she had peed herself until the police got them out. The kid on the floor next to her, a stranger holding her hand, had been at Parkland.
* one of my son's close friends had classes with the shooter (He's in the TSC political discourse group the media is mentioning - they sent me screen shots) and immediately identified him as a white supremacist who worships Trump. He introduced himself to his International Relations class by saying "multiculturalism and communism is destroying America."

There are a few other connections I won't mention that meant I was getting information well before the media. Which leads me to my plea.

My sister has a friend who is a trauma/tragedy junkie. She was constantly sending information being pushed out by an internet media outlet in our area of the state over 300 miles away. They reported things like:

* four dead, five injured
* more than a dozen casualties
* at least two shooters, there may be a third

well before anything concrete could be determined. She was pissed because the police waited until 4:30 to have a press briefing. I blocked her.

I know I am preaching to the choir here, but have to say it anyway. Our 24-hour media circus plus immediate communication capabilities has created a horror show of instant demand for info regardless of the veracity and validity.

Every shooting angers me. Every shooting depresses me. Every shooting rattles me. Some shootings hit me in ways I don't see coming. And for reasons I can sometimes never figure out. I know why this one had me sobbing in the shower this morning. I got ""I'm okay, mom. I'm safe. Hope you're busy working and not watching the news. Love you!" Too many Americans get texts like this one and way too many get the last text from their loved one that they'll ever receive. No one should get texts like these ever!

I have no words for how much I detest the NRA, the Republican party, white supremacists, Trump and Trumpism, gun manufacturers, and gun fetishists right now. A primal scream may be all I can manage. I'm so angry. So sad. So hopeless. Sunday marks 26 years since Columbine. 26 years!!! That's longer than so many school children have been allowed to live because of spineless greedy politicians.

I don't even know how to end my rant so I'll just stop here.




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"I'm okay, mom. I'm safe. Hope you're busy working and not watching the news. Love you!" 12:07 p.m. 04/17/25 (Original Post) Pacifist Patriot Yesterday OP
It was all over social media that the shooter is anti Trump and a Democrat. yardwork Yesterday #1
Well he wasn't. Historic NY Yesterday #2
I know that. Unfortunately, millions are fooled. yardwork 23 hrs ago #11
Not only was he a right winger DENVERPOPS 17 hrs ago #25
As soon as I was looped in to his politics, I knew the disinformation machine would kick into high gear. Pacifist Patriot Yesterday #7
Was it? kirby 23 hrs ago #9
I'm talking about the Florida State shooting yesterday. yardwork 23 hrs ago #12
How horrifying is it that we can't keep mass shootings straight anymore? Pacifist Patriot 23 hrs ago #15
Yes. How sad is that? yardwork 21 hrs ago #17
Pretty doggone horrifying. calimary 18 hrs ago #24
Sad thing is you don't even need something as "sophisticated" as bots... Montauk6 21 hrs ago #16
Probably a deliberately planted lie to make anti-trumpers look bad. calimary 18 hrs ago #22
Frightening. I am glad your loved ones are safe. LoisB Yesterday #3
What an horrific day for you SARose Yesterday #4
Exactly. People think they are being helpful while causing more harm. I do think it is ignorance and thoughtlessness. Pacifist Patriot Yesterday #5
Thank you for this report, and ms liberty Yesterday #6
May that Phoenix NEVER rise again. lastlib Yesterday #8
Take a number. calimary 18 hrs ago #23
First - let me give you a hug. I know you must've been panic stricken. hamsterjill 23 hrs ago #10
Best to wait for the authorities statements. Prairie_Seagull 23 hrs ago #13
Your words described how I feel perfectly, thank you Avalon Sparks 23 hrs ago #14
Braking News Consumer's Handbook NewLarry 21 hrs ago #18
I'm Glad That Your Kids Are Safe! Deep State Witch 21 hrs ago #19
I am so sorry ... UpInArms 21 hrs ago #20
I can't imagine experiencing this malaise 21 hrs ago #21
Great post by you. Not a rant at all, but interesting information and perspective. Thanks. FadedMullet 17 hrs ago #26
what a nightmare... stillcool 16 hrs ago #27
I learned of Sandy Hook the day my school vacation started. BigmanPigman 8 hrs ago #28

yardwork

(66,215 posts)
1. It was all over social media that the shooter is anti Trump and a Democrat.
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 08:47 AM
Yesterday

Instantly the bots went to work.

yardwork

(66,215 posts)
11. I know that. Unfortunately, millions are fooled.
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 10:17 AM
23 hrs ago

For years I've seen comments from people I know IRL that "all the mass shooters are Democrats."

This propaganda is pushed out every single time. And the response is the same:

Republicans: It's happened again! Democrats are violent and crazy! Whatever Trump is doing we have to support him. Save America!!!

Way too many Democrats: Well let's see... I'm not sure what to believe... He said this... but then there's this...maybe he's mentally ill? I heard he's a left winger?! Gosh. I guess maybe he was a Democrat?!

The rest of us:

DENVERPOPS

(11,760 posts)
25. Not only was he a right winger
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 04:24 PM
17 hrs ago

He was kicked out of a political club at the University for being a white supremacist........

Pacifist Patriot

(24,966 posts)
7. As soon as I was looped in to his politics, I knew the disinformation machine would kick into high gear.
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 09:51 AM
Yesterday

The kid has been a pro-Trump white supremacist dating back to his high school days. One of my daughter's friends went to high school with him. He was well known for his alt-right views back then.

yardwork

(66,215 posts)
12. I'm talking about the Florida State shooting yesterday.
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 10:18 AM
23 hrs ago

I missed the Dallas mass shooting. Too many shootings. Too much disinformation.

Montauk6

(9,011 posts)
16. Sad thing is you don't even need something as "sophisticated" as bots...
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 12:10 PM
21 hrs ago

Anyone else remember when McVeigh hit the Murrah Building in OK, first reports were Arab terrorists?

SARose

(1,321 posts)
4. What an horrific day for you
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 09:47 AM
Yesterday

People think they are being “helpful” passing along information from social media.

Easy to say ignore it - buy that is heard. Glad your kiddos are okay.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,966 posts)
5. Exactly. People think they are being helpful while causing more harm. I do think it is ignorance and thoughtlessness.
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 09:49 AM
Yesterday

ms liberty

(10,144 posts)
6. Thank you for this report, and
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 09:51 AM
Yesterday


What a stressful time you've gone through, I was wrung out after just reading it. To think that there were kids from Parkland (or any other) there, it's just heartbreaking. I know I'm not the only one here sending you and yours love and hugs!
But you are so right. The 24 hour news cycle, the internet, the shortened attention spans and the demand for instant gratification - be it be news, information or entertainment - has been so destructive for us as a nation, as individuals. When I'm asked if we're going in the right or wrong direction, this is one of the places my mind goes. It's a far deeper and more serious issue than many realize or are willing to admit.




lastlib

(25,735 posts)
8. May that Phoenix NEVER rise again.
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 09:56 AM
Yesterday

I want the whole NRA, the whole gun-humping culture, to burn in the hottest circle of hell for all eternity. Repuglikans too.

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hamsterjill

(15,756 posts)
10. First - let me give you a hug. I know you must've been panic stricken.
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 10:07 AM
23 hrs ago

I hope you can breathe and do some self care today. Grab your son and hold him at the first opportunity.

I grew up in Uvalde and I can relate to your comment about getting the texts, etc. Some people have this "need to be first" attitude or something, and a lot of disinformation gets passed around very quickly. It can be frightening as hell. The reality is that it takes time for a horrific situation to be assessed. I'd much rather first responders (don't get me started on Uvalde police!) be doing their jobs rather than answering questions.

I'm right there with you as to detesting them all, and I will primal scream with you.

Prairie_Seagull

(4,085 posts)
13. Best to wait for the authorities statements.
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 10:27 AM
23 hrs ago

Which initially are frequently wrong. If the folks investigating get it wrong . I can see why statements are later than we would like.

Shocked and thankful you and yours are OK. My kids are grown and have their own opinions about this shit. Both being teachers. I see their concern and fear first hand. My heart just breaks for them.

I have had some input in their career choice. Constantly on edge about this advice.

I think teachers should get Hazardous duty pay and the kids they teach? WTF, the kids, dumbfounded.

Pacifist Patriot, I/we are with you in spirit.

Avalon Sparks

(2,695 posts)
14. Your words described how I feel perfectly, thank you
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 10:28 AM
23 hrs ago

“Every shooting angers me. Every shooting depresses me. Every shooting rattles me. Some shootings hit me in ways I don't see coming. And for reasons I can sometimes never figure out. I know why this one had me sobbing in the shower this morning. I got ""I'm okay, mom. I'm safe. Hope you're busy working and not watching the news. Love you!" Too many Americans get texts like this one and way too many get the last text from their loved one that they'll ever receive. No one should get texts like these ever!“


10000000000000000%

That every human alive doesn’t feel this way is the most depressing thing of all.

stillcool

(33,632 posts)
27. what a nightmare...
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 05:36 PM
16 hrs ago

I'm glad you had the ability to communicate and you and yours are okay. False information is just life these days.

BigmanPigman

(52,863 posts)
28. I learned of Sandy Hook the day my school vacation started.
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 01:42 AM
8 hrs ago

I came home from teaching my 1st graders. I had many emergency drills that I did for myself and my class, not the school. The administrators at both schools where I taught for over 15 years did not even KNOW that the doors only lock from the outside until I brought it up at staff meetings. Did they do anything at all about it? NO!!!!!!!!! They do not give a shit! If it involves $$$$ on the school's part forget it! They did NOT care that my classroom door only locked from the OUTSIDE!

I'm not a moron and I said Fuck You! I went back to school 4 weeks later (year round schedule) and left teaching forever 3 weeks later. Best decision I ever made.

When you are a teacher and have to plan for a shooter when you are in a bungalow classroom you are a sitting duck. I planned to use the fire extinguisher to knock the shooter out as he entered my class, then I would use the jump rope to tie him up while I'd get the teacher in the connecting classroom's door to take then with her class and I'd boil water in my classroom microwave and pour it into the shooter's face and then I run like hell.

This is insanity! I didn't spend a ton of time and money training to be a teacher for poverty wages, no respect, constant shit from the admin and district. On top of that crap I'm supposed to prepare for an emergency shooter without any help from anyone?!? Fuck that shit!!!!!


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