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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHow Pissed is Trump at El Salvador's Nayib Bukele this Morning?
He will view Chris Van Hollen's being allowed to meet with detainee Kilmer Garcia as defiance or a personal slight.

lostnfound
(16,918 posts)is all that the koolaid drinkers will see or hear.
Chasstev365
(5,341 posts)Unless he didn't authorize it.
I wish Kilmer could have blinked "torture" in morse code like Vietnam War POW and future Senator Jeremiah Denton.
Scrivener7
(55,356 posts)didn't know anything about it. And then suddenly Bukele does a 180.
It means something, but I don't know what. I suspect Mump is freaked by the outcry, and possibly some of it is coming from people he thinks are "masculine" enough to listen to.
sop
(13,735 posts)Scrivener7
(55,356 posts)FBaggins
(28,081 posts)Not sure who would do the prosecuting or for what or why letting Garcia speak to someone (but not release him) would put off such a move.
sop
(13,735 posts)The International Criminal Court (ICC) prosecutes crimes against humanity, genocide and war crimes. Bukele likely realized his actions could have long-term consequences, and Trump won't be around forever to protect him.
Raine1967
(11,637 posts)I would like to know if the Trump administration, particularly those who don't have immunity, could be called or charged as accomplices. maybe a DU lawyer could help.
maxrandb
(16,503 posts)An American administration that actually believes in the rule of law and liberal democracy, will ensure authoritarian fascists like Bukele, and others like him, who think that this is some kind of permanent shift toward American fascism, and not the ravings of an insane cult, WILL NEVER KNOW A SINGLE MOMENT OF PEACE.
He will have to flee from one hellish hidey-hole to another, like Sadam Hussain, or Ghadafi.
If he's lucky, he'll chew on a Luger, like Hitler, before he gets sent to the general population of his own death prison.
FBaggins
(28,081 posts)First - there were plenty of authoritarian governments during the last several democratic administrations. Kicking Trump out isnt suddenly going to turn the US into some regime-overthrowing champion. Well be busy enough putting things back to rights here at home.
More importantly
why would letting a senator speak to a particular prisoner undo all of that?
maxrandb
(16,503 posts)America didn't kiss those authoritarian leaders and countries asses.
We never "aspired" to become them.
America has had its share of problems, and has often failed to live up to the values we champion, but we have never collectively, failed to champion them.
We don't really need to "overthrow" authoritarian regimes...we need to stop emulating them. Getting rid of Donnie Dipshit WILL solve a shit-ton of problems.
I am specifically referring to leaders and countries that are "actively" taking legal American residents, and potentially American citizens, and placing them in death prisons. Those "leaders" should NEVER assume that they will have a moments peace.
That's quite different than having a trade agreement with a place like Saudi Arabia, or China.
Neither China, nor Saudi Arabia are making deals with Donnie Dipshit to imprison American residents in death camps.
Please tell me you understand the difference?
Raven
(14,240 posts)allegorical oracle
(4,617 posts)dressed, wearing a hat -- looked like he was at a picnic outing. Sniffed of being a set-up photo-op.
ms liberty
(10,144 posts)The story was not developing in the way they hoped. They kept feeding people the line about Garcia being MS13 but even the old conservatives in Grassley's town hall were not buying it and ripping him one about it. That one old white guy was awesome and I think he hit a nerve with everyone who saw it. This whole operation is not really landing the way they anticipated.
Martin Eden
(14,142 posts)At least in part for the optics with Garcia wearing a nice shirt in a nice cafeteria setting with a stemware glass for his water.
The administration remains determined to keep him there, as their rhetoric to that intent has only escalated. They won't give an inch in their determination to excerise their power to throw anyone into a foreign gulag without due process of law.
claudette
(5,281 posts)hotel
According to reports. It was also reported that Bukele set up the drinks at the table
Martin Eden
(14,142 posts)If Garcia can be escorted to a hotel outside the prison, why can't he be escorted to an an airport?
claudette
(5,281 posts)tintinvotes
(75 posts)I think VanHollen reminded them that they are a part of the Rome statute, which says prisoners must be able to meet with council and can be held accountable by the ICC.
Prairie Gates
(4,860 posts)They WANT it to be an unaccountable torture prison - this is the point of the Noem visuals and the various idiots standing in front of the cells. But then they are also like "Oh, he looks healthy and not at all tortured, haha!" Which is it?
Anyway, if he's being repatriated, he should be processed and released. If he's being produced back for an immigration hearing, he should be processed and sent back. He's not been convicted of anything, so there are no grounds to hold him, whether it's a torture prison or an old folks home.
Free people don't tolerate indefinite, unaccountable detention.
BoRaGard
(4,988 posts)...and ease his frustrations with heaping platters of caviar-stuffed lobster tails,
feasting at the end of long days of luxury golffe indulgence -- all at taxpayer expense. Cute.
"Ha ha. Sucker US taxpayers." - Krasnov (R-Felon)
usedtobedemgurl
(1,642 posts)BoRaGard
(4,988 posts)while he and his GOP minions continue to STOMP AMERICA'S FOOD BANKS on Good flipping Friday.
DOZENS OF STORIES LIKE THIS on the net:
Stockton is short 500 cases of food a week after malicious USDA cuts.
https://stocktonia.org/news/community/2025/04/18/stockton-food-bank-usda-cuts-heres-how-you-can-help/
Republicons are systematically ripping food from the mouths of the hungry,
so GOP Gourmet Golffers can feed their faces - and claim to be Special Holy Saved Christians.
As if.
usedtobedemgurl
(1,642 posts)BoRaGard
(4,988 posts)The republicon-ruled regime in the House of Representatives has proposed a budget resolution that includes over $1 trillion in federal spending cuts, with significant reductions targeting SNAP and Medicaid.
2naSalit
(96,423 posts)He got so pissed that he decides to stop paying for the prisoners. How soon would they be sent back?
newdeal2
(2,312 posts)Nah seriously, he would find another country. Probably KSA or someplace in the Middle East farther away.
multigraincracker
(35,446 posts)With pressure from the voters, they could cut all of those funds.
2naSalit
(96,423 posts)A claw-back and sanctions. If they were to honor the Constitution or their constituents.
IF.
GoodRaisin
(10,095 posts)HereForTheParty
(841 posts)Senator Chris Van Hollen of Maryland looked like a fool yesterday standing in El Salvador begging for attention from the Fake News Media, or anyone. GRANDSTANDER!!!
claudette
(5,281 posts)Grandstander on earth accusing the Senator!! How rich. What an arsewhole
MorbidButterflyTat
(2,805 posts)Mad_Machine76
(24,848 posts)that Garcia is some kind of vicious gang member who didnt even need to be restrained during the meeting. In fact, I saw on Twitter that some GOPer suggested that he may be a potential FUTURE member of a gang or criminal. 🤪. I dont know if I can link it here but if you want it I can DM it. The political spin job has now just got even harder for Trump and Bukkele JMHO.
librechik
(30,820 posts)and there is no King of the World. Yet. I fear for El Salvador's future if they continue to defy Krasnov.
haele
(14,125 posts)As a country, they haven't been able to climb out of the hole United Fruit, parochial anti-Communist Church leaders, and the CIA dug for them in the early-mid 20th century yet.
The corruption in El Salvador has been going on for over 100 years, and the regular people - small indigenous businessmen and peasant farmers, have never been able to have even basic rights, let alone full representation in the government due to their ingrained patron culture.
WSHazel
(316 posts)Trump is learning something you would have expected a career criminal to learn decades ago. If you do business with criminals, they are likely to take advantage of you. Bukele is a dirt bag, but he knows Trump cant fire him and will keep sending prisoners, so why not make nice with the Democrat for when Trump is gone?
UTUSN
(73,859 posts)tulipsandroses
(7,175 posts)Even some ardent supporters of deportation are not on board with this. They don't mind families ripped apart and people deported but there is a stench about sending people to prison indefinitely without due process - Especially in this case where the government admitted to making a mistake.
IbogaProject
(4,259 posts)Is basically a publicity stunt by a hostage. It is good he is alive. But I'm concerned where this is going.
demmiblue
(38,242 posts)

MorbidButterflyTat
(2,805 posts)of volatile toddler put in timeout, I'd speculate no one could tell the difference.
Mike 03
(18,379 posts)He's behaving as if we will never have any president other than Trump. It may take a decade, but there will be a different administration--and we won't forget the disrespect the president of El Salvador has shown the citizens of the United States.