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Chasstev365

(5,341 posts)
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 07:57 PM Thursday

If Trump Invokes the Insurrection Act with Martial Law

What will the Stock Market do?

Seriously, it reacts to every stupid thing Trump says, but would American business even care?

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If Trump Invokes the Insurrection Act with Martial Law (Original Post) Chasstev365 Thursday OP
Just a little correction here, MarineCombatEngineer Thursday #1
ty, every time I read Marshall I think of other things 😹 Meowmee Yesterday #16
I think the market will tank. Irish_Dem Thursday #2
The dark mood of the nation will get darker yet BoRaGard Yesterday #18
It's martial law, and... it depends. unblock Thursday #3
Corrected Chasstev365 Thursday #6
It would be pretty messed up...maybe private prison stocks go up. crud Thursday #4
I think the market would implode, as it would sink in that the transformation Mike 03 Thursday #5
With all due respect, in a scenario like that, anciano Thursday #7
One thing to consider... VMA131Marine Thursday #8
And another thing to consider, MarineCombatEngineer Thursday #9
And... 2naSalit Thursday #10
Yes, there is that also, MarineCombatEngineer Thursday #11
Ditto. 2naSalit Thursday #12
Martial law doesn't necessarily mean troops in the streets. Aristus Thursday #14
Most of the cops would eagerly help them Mariana Yesterday #15
What do you think "martial law" is? onenote Thursday #13
Who knows... lets hope it doesn't happen Meowmee Yesterday #17
Depends on the business. If theres a curfew attached, Volaris Yesterday #19

MarineCombatEngineer

(15,071 posts)
1. Just a little correction here,
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 07:59 PM
Thursday

it's Martial Law, not Marshall Law, and as far as what Wall Street will do, probably drop even faster than so far.

Irish_Dem

(68,187 posts)
2. I think the market will tank.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 08:01 PM
Thursday

The American economy relies on a stable democracy, predictable, consistent, safe.

Trump invoking the insurrection act means all bets are off.
US is no longer safe, stable or predictable.

Very very bad for business, consumer confidence, or investment.

BoRaGard

(4,988 posts)
18. The dark mood of the nation will get darker yet
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 06:39 AM
Yesterday

The satanic anti-American moves of The Regime and the Kasino Hustler will make it darker yet.

unblock

(54,991 posts)
3. It's martial law, and... it depends.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 08:04 PM
Thursday

Personally, I would sell of what little I have left in the market, hopefully before that point.

But it all depends on what the investor community thinks the real deal is.

If they think Donnie might use his dictatorial powers to simply grab businesses and screw the owners, then expect the market to crater.

If they think Donnie will instead allow owners to screw everyone every which way for fun and profit, the market might shrug it off or every go higher.

crud

(963 posts)
4. It would be pretty messed up...maybe private prison stocks go up.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 08:07 PM
Thursday

Marshall law will probably be declared in a border county like San Diego. House to house searches. If you protest, all your stuff ends up in the yard, furniture torn up, you know the routine.

Mike 03

(18,379 posts)
5. I think the market would implode, as it would sink in that the transformation
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 08:10 PM
Thursday

we are going through is far, far beyond the tariff wars. Economists, investors, leaders of most nations would come to accept the unthinkable. There would be no way to deny it, despite all the wishing, hoping and self-delusion that some are offering up to rationalize the changes we are undergoing here.

ON EDIT:

What I mean is, if you listen to Bloomberg Radio, or maybe watch CNBC, you would think the only changes happening in the United States are the tariff wars. Most countries are only seeing Trump through the lens of how his policies impact their economies. They aren't talking about the loss of our democracy. They aren't seeing the Big Picture yet. Martial Law, or the abduction and deportation of a (white) citizen or a foreign dignitary--something dramatic like that would get the attention of everyone.

anciano

(1,762 posts)
7. With all due respect, in a scenario like that,
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 08:15 PM
Thursday

the stock market will be the least of our concerns.

VMA131Marine

(4,953 posts)
8. One thing to consider...
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 09:03 PM
Thursday

The U.S. military isn’t nearly big enough to impose martial law on the entire country.

MarineCombatEngineer

(15,071 posts)
9. And another thing to consider,
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 09:07 PM
Thursday

would the rank and file, IE: the line officers and NCO's actually go along with an illegal order like that?
The top brass may go along with it, but I have my doubts about the line officers and NCO's, who actually get things done, would obey such an illegal order.

2naSalit

(96,423 posts)
10. And...
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 09:35 PM
Thursday

They probably recognize, better than the idiots who would call for such a thing, that many of us have guns and many also are marksmen(people).

MarineCombatEngineer

(15,071 posts)
11. Yes, there is that also,
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 10:13 PM
Thursday

these MAGAt's just don't seem to understand that we liberals aren't afraid to stand our ground, they don't seem to realize that there are millions of us that are combat vets and know how to shoot and scoot.

I truly hope it doesn't come down to this, but if push comes to shove, they're going to learn a very painful lesson and I'm at the age where I'm not afraid to die defending the Constitution and fellow citizens.

Semper Fi.

Aristus

(69,662 posts)
14. Martial law doesn't necessarily mean troops in the streets.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 11:26 PM
Thursday

It means military judges in civil courtrooms. There aren’t enough for that, either. But that’s what martial law means.

Mariana

(15,499 posts)
15. Most of the cops would eagerly help them
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 04:08 AM
Yesterday

Along with who knows how many MAGAt Gestapo wanna-bes.

onenote

(45,122 posts)
13. What do you think "martial law" is?
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 11:04 PM
Thursday

A lot of posters use the term but don't seem to have a clear understanding of what it is. What it isn't is authorizing the military to engage in domestic law enforcement. Normally, that is prohibited under the Posse Comitatus Act, but the invocation of the insurrection act allows a president to override the Posse Comitatus Act. It's actually not unheard of for a president to invoke the Insurrection Act -- JFK did it, LBJ did it, and most recently, GWBush did it in response to the riots following the Rodney King beating.

Martial law is different -- it occurs when the courts are not open in time of war and military tribunals are authorized to act in place of the civilian judiciary.

Despite folks conflating the Insurrection Act and martial law, they are different. What is concerning isn't that the invocation of the insurrection act by trump would put the country under martial law. What is concerning is that the circumstances in which the Insurrection Act has been and can be invoked have been historically limited to times of actual violent uprisings, like the LA riots. What seems likely is not that Trump will invoke martial law but rather thant he will attempt to militarize civilian law enforcement despite the absence of the types of situation in which it has previously been invoked.

Meowmee

(8,596 posts)
17. Who knows... lets hope it doesn't happen
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 04:21 AM
Yesterday

My guess is it would not be good for the market or anything.

Volaris

(10,817 posts)
19. Depends on the business. If theres a curfew attached,
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 09:59 AM
Yesterday

Do you really think the barstool sports idiot and his millions of drunk Bros isn't gonna have some Feelings about that?

THOSE businesses will care.

As an aside, trump can declare all the martial law he fucking wants. The reality is he doesn't have enough cops, and that's math so basic even Speaker Mike can figure it out.

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