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Kid Berwyn

(19,971 posts)
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 06:31 PM Thursday

Putin Praises Elon Musk, compares him to Korolev, father of Soviet space program

Sergei Korolev was a genius. I knew Korolev -- not by name but by reputation...Sputnik, Vostok, etc. Korolev was an intellectual hero of mine. Elon may think he's the reincarnation of Werner von Braun, but, believe me, he's no Korolev.

If Korolev hadn't died on the operating table, the Soviet Union might have beaten the United States to the moon. Those who came after him were fools. In comparison to them, a flea inhabiting Putin's poodle makes Musk look tiny.



Putin praises Elon Musk, compares him to father of Soviet space program

Putin has previously praised Musk, whose business interests include the SpaceX space technology company, as "an outstanding person."


By REUTERS
APRIL 16, 2025

Russian President Vladimir Putin on Thursday praised Elon Musk, comparing him to Sergei Korolev, the chief engineer behind the Soviet Union's space success in the 1950s and 1960s, state news agency TASS reported.

TASS cited Putin, who was speaking on Russia's space policy at a meeting with students, as saying: "You know, there's a person who lives in the States, you could say that he's absolutely crazy about Mars."

It quoted him as drawing a comparison between Musk and Sergei Korolev, a Soviet engineer who was instrumental in the Soviet Union's success in sending Yuri Gagarin on the world's first crewed spaceflight in 1961.

Winning Putin's admiration

According to TASS, Putin said: "Such people rarely appear in the human population, charged with a certain idea. Even though it may seem incredible to me today, after a time such ideas are often realized."

Putin has previously praised Musk, whose business interests include the SpaceX space technology company, as "an outstanding person."

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https://www.jpost.com/international/article-850359?dicbo=v2-KK7Lsp1&utm_medium=obbow

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Putin Praises Elon Musk, compares him to Korolev, father of Soviet space program (Original Post) Kid Berwyn Thursday OP
Plus, Musk (DOGE) got Russian hackers into our Dept of Energy computer system, so Putin should praise him. surfered Thursday #1
DoE...SSA...DoJ must be on-going...DoD just ahead. Kid Berwyn Thursday #3
Send him to Russia then with a one way ticket Blue Owl Thursday #2
A most excellent proposal. Kid Berwyn Thursday #4
Oh My! malaise Thursday #5
So the two pee-residents have the same master. Kid Berwyn Thursday #7
Perhaps malaise Thursday #10
He was from Ukraine Comrade Citizen Thursday #6
The Chief Designer Kid Berwyn Thursday #8
Chelomey and Hlushko, also Ukrainians Comrade Citizen Thursday #12
They should make a movie based on that story. Crunchy Frog Thursday #14
It was Russia the whole damn time!!!! Initech Thursday #9
USSR busted FBI and CIA... Kid Berwyn Thursday #11
He knows how to flatter the egos of powerful narcissists. Crunchy Frog Thursday #13
He salutes enemies of the United States. Kid Berwyn Yesterday #18
I don't believe he says that with no sense of irony. David__77 Yesterday #15
Crony Commie Royalty Kid Berwyn Yesterday #19
Putin is a lame, puny troll MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #16
Where there's smoke, they're burning evidence. Kid Berwyn Yesterday #20
Putin Xolodno Yesterday #17
The poodle bites. The poodle chews it. Kid Berwyn Yesterday #21

surfered

(6,207 posts)
1. Plus, Musk (DOGE) got Russian hackers into our Dept of Energy computer system, so Putin should praise him.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 06:56 PM
Thursday

Kid Berwyn

(19,971 posts)
3. DoE...SSA...DoJ must be on-going...DoD just ahead.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 07:25 PM
Thursday

Putin sends everything to Semion Mogilevich.

Kid Berwyn

(19,971 posts)
7. So the two pee-residents have the same master.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 08:24 PM
Thursday

The most powerful fellow owes him big money.



The most rich fellow owes him everything else.

Comrade Citizen

(331 posts)
6. He was from Ukraine
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 07:42 PM
Thursday

Korolev was born, grew up and was educated in Ukraine.

His mother, Maria Nikolaevna (Moskalenko/Bulanina), was a daughter of a wealthy merchant from the city of Nizhyn, Ukraine with Ukrainian, Greek and Polish heritage.

Kid Berwyn

(19,971 posts)
8. The Chief Designer
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 08:30 PM
Thursday


https://www.amazon.com/Korolev-Masterminded-Soviet-Drive-America/dp/0471148539

From Astronautix:

Korolev's story was inextricably bound up in the deep passions and resentments of the three titans of Soviet space rocketry - Sergei Pavlovich Korolev, Vladimir Nikolayev Chelomei, and Valentin Petrovich Glushko. Each had his own patrons in the Kremlin hierarchy and Politburo. Each had been deeply scarred and mishandled by the Soviet system. Each was very sure that his technical and management approach was superior. The depth of their passions in their struggle for ascendancy can scarcely be imagined.

Korolev was born to a Russian literature teacher in the town of Zhitomir in the Ukraine. He was fascinated with aircraft at an early age and became a pilot. At the age of 17 he had designed his first glider, the K-5. After attending the Kiev Polytechnic Institute, he went on to the Moscow Higher Technical University (MVTU). There he was involved in design and construction of an increasingly ambitious series of gliders, culminating in the SK-4, designed for record duration flights in the stratosphere. He became interested in the possibilities of rocket-propelled aircraft and in September 1931, together with Tsander, founded the Moscow rocketry organization GIRD (Group for Investigation of Reactive Motion).

http://www.astronautix.com/k/korolev.html

Comrade Citizen

(331 posts)
12. Chelomey and Hlushko, also Ukrainians
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 08:43 PM
Thursday

Ukrainians were the brains of the Soviet Union.
They are clever, that's why they are still able to fight against a much larger enemy.

Kid Berwyn

(19,971 posts)
11. USSR busted FBI and CIA...
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 08:39 PM
Thursday

…like what Lemmy called a line in the sand from the PAPERCLIP git-go to today, foisting upon us Trump and the internal attack on the Constitution.

Kid Berwyn

(19,971 posts)
18. He salutes enemies of the United States.
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 08:58 AM
Yesterday


Those fuckers are still holding the USS Pueblo, which, per GOOGLE/Wikipedia, was never decommissioned and remains the second-oldest commissioned ship in the U.S. Navy (after the USS Constitution), according to the Naval History and Heritage Command. It is now open near The Victorious Fatherland Liberation War Museum in Pyongyang.



During a propaganda op, the US Navy ship’s officers sent a message via the universal language of photography to their then-captors:



Those who support the Constitution will appreciate their "Good Luck" middle finger salutes.

David__77

(24,017 posts)
15. I don't believe he says that with no sense of irony.
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 12:25 AM
Yesterday

I’m pretty sure he must consider Musk to be an odd anti-social element.

Kid Berwyn

(19,971 posts)
19. Crony Commie Royalty
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 09:09 AM
Yesterday
Here’s a look at Musk’s contact with Putin and why it matters

BY DAVID KLEPPER AND LISA MASCARO
Updated 5:35 PM EDT, October 25, 2024

WASHINGTON (AP) — Elon Musk, the billionaire owner of major government contractor SpaceX and a key ally of Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump, has been in regular contact with Russian President Vladimir Putin for the last two years, The Wall Street Journal reported.

A person familiar with the situation, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss the sensitive matter, confirmed to The Associated Press that Musk and Putin have had contact through calls. The person didn’t provide additional details about the frequency of the calls, when they occurred or their content.

Musk, the world’s richest man who also owns Tesla and the social platform X, has emerged as a leading voice on the American right. He’s poured millions of dollars into Trump’s presidential bid and turned the platform once known as Twitter into a site popular with Trump supporters, as well as conspiracy theorists, extremists and Russian propagandists.

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What they talked about

Musk and Putin have spoken repeatedly about personal matters, business and geopolitics, The Journal reported Thursday, citing multiple current and former officials in the U.S., Europe and Russia.

During one talk, Putin asked Musk not to activate his Starlink satellite system over Taiwan as a favor for Chinese President Xi Jinping, whose ties to Putin have grown closer, the Journal reported. Putin and Xi have met more than 40 times since 2013.

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https://apnews.com/article/musk-putin-x-trump-tesla-election-russia-9cecb7cb0f23ccce49336771280ae179

Socializing risk. Privatizing gain.

MorbidButterflyTat

(2,805 posts)
16. Putin is a lame, puny troll
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 12:33 AM
Yesterday

The rusty corroded gears in his decrepit mind turning out "outrage" bullshit almost as bad as the putrid POS polluting OUR White House.

"What can I say today to piss people off?" What a slimy worm.

Kid Berwyn

(19,971 posts)
20. Where there's smoke, they're burning evidence.
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 09:32 AM
Yesterday

And thanks to D.O.G.E., the trolls have our Social Security numbers and only Semion Mogilevich knows what else.

Kid Berwyn

(19,971 posts)
21. The poodle bites. The poodle chews it.
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 09:46 AM
Yesterday


Will Trump prove to be America’s Gorbachev?

Much like Mikhail Gorbachev's ‘reforms’ hastened the Soviet collapse, analysts say US President Donald Trump’s radical policies—on trade, foreign aid, and global alliances—may escalate America’s downward slide.


Abhishek G Bhaya
TRT world, (February 2025?)

Excerpt…

Eventually, ‘glasnost’ exposed deep-seated corruption, past government atrocities, and economic failures, fueling public dissent and nationalist movements that weakened Soviet unity. At the same time, ‘perestroika’ attempted partial economic and political reforms, but instead of revitalising the system, it led to economic turmoil, loss of central control, and the disintegration of Soviet influence.

Now, in the 21st century, a strikingly similar phenomenon is unfolding—not in Moscow, but in Washington. US President Donald Trump, much like Gorbachev, has set out to "Make America Great Again" through a radical overhaul of domestic and foreign policy. Yet, as he challenges the very institutions and alliances that have long upheld US supremacy, analysts suggest he may unwittingly hasten the decline of “American imperialism”.

“The most common similarity between Gorbachev and Trump, both representing the ruling elites, is their fight against the political systems of their respective countries through reforms,” Istanbul-based foreign policy and security analyst Elnur Ismayil tells TRT World.

“Gorbachev’s goal was to save the Soviet Union, but his policies sped up its collapse,” he notes.

The ‘reforms’ being pushed in the US can have a similar fallout.

“Similarly, Trump’s policies—though framed as making America ‘great again’—may actually hasten its decline by weakening institutions, straining alliances, and undermining economic stability,” adds Delhi-based geopolitical analyst Prashant Tandon.

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https://www.trtworld.com/us-and-canada/will-trump-prove-to-be-americas-gorbachev-18263712

PS: Some one or some thing may’ve been toying with an algorithm or something because the Google results seem to have missed articles that appeared on previous searches.
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