The Signal texts scandal is worse than we thought?

[kentuck]

They conspired to keep the information secret and they all knew the purpose of texting over Signal.

The CIA Director, the National Security Advisor, the Director of National Intelligence, and all the others knew why they were using the Signal app. They did not want anyone, the US Senate included, to know what they were doing. It was a conspiracy of the highest magnitude.

They all knew what they were doing.

No doubt, they will try to minimize it and say that it is no big deal but it is a very big deal. All of those folks were willing to break the law for Donald Trump. Except for maybe one? Somebody had to invite the journalist, Jeffrey Goldberg to the group? Was it an accident or was it intentional? I suspect it may have been the latter?

It is a very serious matter. It is time for the Republicans to step up. They either stand with our country or they stand with Trump?

This is many, many times worse than Watergate.

[kentuck]

1. Could it have been "Little Marco"?

He was once the Chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee.

[spanone]

52. He admitted he was on the thread...

and he sure as hell knew it wasn't in anyway secure, a senator of 14 years would know.

[relayerbob]

2. These traitors

Make Nixon look like George Washington

[House of Roberts]

3. Yeah but on the bright side...

we may not have the content of the breach, but you can be sure our adversaries do, and will no doubt use it as compromat as needed.

[Klarkashton]

4. What the hell else is going on that nobody else knows about with this signal shit.

It's NEVER just one thing.

[kentuck]

7. Who knows??

But one of them was in Moscow when he got the call. We do not know where Gabbard was but she was not in country?

[Think. Again.]

22. And I have no doubt...

...that Moscow monitors the devices of every American in Russia, especially American officials.

[markodochartaigh]

44. But, where in Moscow?

During the group discussion on Signal, Goldberg reported, Ratcliffe named an active CIA intelligence officer in the chat at 5:24 p.m. eastern time, which was just after midnight in Russia. Witkoff's flight did not leave Moscow until around 2 a.m. local time, and Sergei Markov, a former Putin advisor who is still close to the Russian president, said in a Telegram post that Witkoff and Putin were meeting in the Kremlin until 1:30 a.m.


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-envoy-steve-witkoff-signal-text-group-chat-russia-putin/

[colorado_ufo]

53. Somewhere in Asia.

She can't remember.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

13. You can be sure not first time they use apps to avoid government record-keeping laws to hide

... to hide their illegal conspiratorial destruction of the rule of law and attempts to install fascism.

[NH Ethylene]

28. Trump had a 'tell' in his comment on the news tonight.

He said 'app' questioningly as if it was a word foreign to him. He does that playing stupid thing when he is trying to dodge responsibility. It was probably recommended to him by someone slightly smarter as a way to avoid records of conversations and he ordered everyone to use it.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

29. Yup, he always plays stupid. He runs an app company: {un}Truth Social. . . . . nt

[DENVERPOPS]

18. Wasn't there a movie years ago titled

NO MORE SECRETS ??????????????

Or that was maybe just the premise of the movie.....Robert Redford????maybe starred in it.....and the actor that played Ghandi????

[CrispyQ]

30. Sneakers. Great movie!!

[DENVERPOPS]

31. Bingo CrispyQ.......

thank you, thank you, thank you...............

[ShazzieB]

34. And the actor who played Gandhi is Ben Kingsley!

Great movie, great actor. Both won Academy Awards (Best Picture, Best Actor).Gandhi also won Academy Awards in several other categories, 8 out of 11 that it was nominated for.

I have not seen Sneakers, but I think I'll look into it.

[Blue_Roses]

38. Yes!

[neohippie]

49. theres another scandal within this one

Apparently the Signal app is approved by the Whitehouse for comms use but since you can have messages that self delete after the set expiration time, the use of the app by all of these Federal officials and whomever else in the Whitehouse would be a violation the Federal Records Act because this gets around the ability to preserve the records

As well as the NSA itself released that bulletin in February that declared that the Signal app had vulnerabilities that were known to be exploited and recommended that it not be used for government communications not just classified information but any communications

[marble falls]

5. I certainly hope so.

[Beachnutt]

8. Glad I have no kids in the service and am sorry for those that do

How would you like to be the soldier or pilot going into hostile territory against an enemy and the enemy was told ahead of time that you were coming and the details of your attack.
It would be like a booby trap being set by your commanders.

[DENVERPOPS]

32. Worse yet

would be your kid being ordered to shoot citizens in the U.S. because they disagreed with the Supreme Commander of the Military...

[muriel_volestrangler]

9. Goldberg is clear that Waltz added him to the group

That's why Trump had to "defend" Waltz in particular today (scare quotes because it was pathetic. With defenders like that, who needed enemies?)

[Karasu]

10. Even fucking JD Vance was there.

[johnnyfins]

11. Pete Buttigieg mad an excellent point

It's not like you can copy/paste that info into Signal. The actual machines that the sensitive info lives on are different and segregated by clearance.

It was deliberate.

[Pinback]

25. Could be they were hoping Goldberg would release the info prematurely

and recklessly, giving them an excuse to jail a major liberal journalist.

[JHB]

39. Not with the response they've given

It's been the same uncoordinated mess as usually happens when these people trip up over their own incompetence: Hegseth claims it's a hoax even though others have already confirmed the story, Trump does his "never heard of it/barely knew him/I think he delivered some coffee once" routine, and FOX pretends it was no big deal.

[johnnyfins]

40. I was thinking the same thing.

Like none of them know who Goldberg is?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

12. This was not first time they violated Records Acts, not first time they used apps to avoid electronic "paper trails". nt

[DENVERPOPS]

20. Do you recall

during the first Trump occupation of the White House where they were using a Top Top Top secret server which is hardly ever used, and how Trump often had meetings, even with Russians, that had no stenographer present. Or even once when leaving a meeting he took the notes from a stenographer, tore them up, and kept them????????

[Biophilic]

14. I'm afraid the republicans have already shown where their loyalties lie and it isn't with the country.

I never in a million years would have foreseen this. Half the time I’m still standing like an idiot with my mouth open. I would never have foreseen such a large part of the country and the government so quickly turn to fascism.

[Skittles]

17. yup

I think the founding fathers allowed for a fucking moron like Trump - they just didn't envision and ENTIRE PARTY pimping for him.

[DENVERPOPS]

21. If you realize

that Fascism is basically the merging of Corporations and Government, you would realize that it has been shifting ever since Reagan was installed in the White House, and HW and his CABAL started cranking shit out..........Raising taxes on the middle class, and simultaneously doing MAJOR tax rate cuts for the Wealthiest in the U.S. and substantially lowering the corporate tax rates....

Interesting that the minute HW left the White House, he was installed as President of the Board of the Carlisle (sp) group....a private group of investors including over 600 of the top millionaires in the U.S.

The best title for a book about the past 45+ years would be:

WHILE THE NATION SLEPT.........

[Skittles]

15. why use Watergate

look at how repukes reacted to Hillary's emails

[ForgedCrank]

16. The do it

because the leaks are so bad. I've learned from watching and reading today that the Signal application is officially allowed in certain circumstances for that reason.
This has to stop. People who are leaking need to be serving heavy prison terms and this mess needs to be cleaned up. We can't have government employees and officials using outside methods for this purpose. And we need to stay consistent about it too, not just when Trump does it.

[Think. Again.]

23. But the signal app was officially put off-limits...

...by the Pentagon a couple of weeks ago.

[BadgerMom]

19. They learned after the Secret Service had to erase their Jan. 6 texts.

They figure this is easier. Signal will erase things first then. The treachery is breath-taking.

[Beartracks]

24. "They did not want anyone, the US Senate included, to know what they were doing."

Since you run the Senate, Republicans, let this be a reminder that this is what the Trump regime thinks of you while you bend over prostrate at their feet.

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[intheflow]

26. I've been saying since this broke that I bet an intern or low level staffer

leaked it because, although probably a Republican, maybe also a veteran who hates Hegseth’s cosplaying someone who is qualified to lead the armed forces. Conversely, maybe it’s courtesy of a Russian leak/interference. Because nobody likes Rubio. Or…

[Ponietz]

27. Immunity and impunity are inseparable

[kimbutgar]

33. Nothing will come of this!

But I’d love to be wrong. The orange Hitler is too powerful and can’t be stopped. Again hope I’m wrong but I’m not optimistic. We are watching the slow motion destruction of our countries secrets and intelligence gathering turned over to Putin.

And don’t get me started in our media…. That US attorney had a suspicious death last week and it’s forgotten news now.

[COL Mustard]

35. They should impeach Hegseth

And maybe Waltz and Tulsi.

[Cinjanik]

36. Signal texts

Our military needs to step in and deal with this menace!

[Simeon Salus]

37. These idiots are inviting terrorism by their partisan incompetence

These guys would just love to botch a terrorist attack (like Jethro Bush) just so they could clamp down on normal Americans even tighter.

[usonian]

41. Signalgate?

Next thing you know, they'll be using twitter.

[Andy823]

42. They took an oath

I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion, and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter.

Republicans don't seem to care about our country, they seem to be to busy kissing trumps ass!

[ancianita]

43. Way worse. Signal's ongoing use by national security teams and Putin are an ongoing persistent national security threat.

This military op was just a leak that better be completely stopped by SCOTUS.

When a Sec of Defense's transcript data with the rest of government heads are erased (except for the Goldberg transcripts) we'll never know the extent of the clumsy dumb ways this group will enable the stealth takeover by not just pro-Russia oligarchs but by other countries' cyberintelligence insurgencies.

If we survive both Heritage and Silicon infiltrators and operatives, and maybe win in 2028, this mafia-with-a-military will be leaving a hollowed out government devoid of expertise, data, money, and badly screwed up Internet and communications systems.

"Lesson learned" translation: "Never get exposed again."

[Gimpyknee]

45. The CIA Director blamed Biden today for use of Signal communications.

Ratcliffe left out two important details.

1. Could not use if classified information was involved.

2. Could not use Signal on their cellphones.

[HereForTheParty]

46. "Was it an accident or was it intentional? I suspect it may have been the latter?"

Oh, careful there. I was called a Trump asset for suggesting it may not have been an accident.

[eppur_se_muova]

47. This is right up there with Nixon secretly bombing Cambodia ... an act of war, carried out off the books. nt

[GoodRaisin]

48. "Time for the Republicans to step up"

It appears to me the Republicans have stepped aside. They are now effectively allowing an executive administration of nazis to install a full blown dictatorship. The only thing I see to repel their effort is reliance on our legal system and our courts to act, and for our people ro resist.

[Trueblue Texan]

50. The notion that rethugs stand with anyone other than TSF is ...well, let's just say wishful thinking...

I know I don't need to tell you this Kentuck. You've been onto their shit longer than me.

[Meowmee]

51. This should not be a surprise to anyone

These people were already foreign assets, nazis/ traitors etc. R are not going to step up.

[Javaman]

54. of course it is. just the bold faced incompetence begs the question: how deep does this rampant stupidity go?

we are sooooooooooooooo fucked.

[doc03]

55. In a week or so Trump will do something worse and this

will be ancient history.