I'm 77 and I never thought I would see the day when elected politicans would

[sinkingfeeling]

not care about blatant national security breaches (Signal chat, non clearances for DOGE employees, TSF's stolen documents, etc.) and call for dismantling the federal courts. Then again, they are destroying every aspect of the US. History, Intelligence, NATO, international cooperation, education, research, healthcare, tourism, FEMA, and finance, to name a few.

And look at the freedoms we're losing. A right to choose to have a child or not, the right to state an opposing opinion, the right to read any book, the right to protest a corporation, and the right to hearing truth are a few being 'disappeared', along with some of our neighbors.

As many of you know, I'm currently in the act of packing a lifetime of belongings to make a permanent move to another country. It is heartbreaking to do this. But I also see a glimmer of living in peace, enjoying life without the stress and pain of being here. I'm watching everything I worked for being destroyed and just can't stay.

[SheltieLover]

1. How about considering ruskies our friends?

Good for you. I sincerely hope you live freely and enjoy your new home!

[muriel_volestrangler]

17. It's not that they're Russian; it's that they're fascists

Gorbachev was basically honourable. Yeltsin stood up against a coup, and he wasn't a mass murderer. It's Putin and his regime that are as bad as Stalin.

[valleyrogue]

35. The USSR and Russia are NOT the same thing.

Russia is owned entirely by gangsters. This ain't the Cold War.

[Justice matters.]

38. Well, Stalin and Khrouchtchev were also murderous gangsters.

To be honest.

[Irish_Dem]

2. Add invading Canada, Greenland, Panama.

And becoming best friends with Putin.
We are a Russian colony now.

[Irish_Dem]

27. I agree with every point you make.

Yes we have been sold out to the Russians, lock, stock and barrel.
And yes I toss and turn at night worried about all of it.
These are ruthless psychopaths who will destroy our safety net, our country, our democracy.
And not even blink.
Oh yes congress handed it all over to Putin. They are part of the coup.
They are not just complicit, they are part of the criminal enterprise.

If I were younger, I would leave this country.

[LiberalArkie]

3. All because we did not give to Stalin all the states that Hitler had conquered after Stalin had over run Berlin and

had accepted the Nazi defeat.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/End_of_World_War_II_in_Europe

[erronis]

6. Right. Stalin (and his successors) would have kept on rolling through western Europe

and finished the atrocities that the Nazis had begun.

[LiberalArkie]

11. If the U.S. governement was conservative like now, There would not be a Europe, Japan, S. Korea, Philippines etc, they

would have all been territories of the U.S.. Maybe states even.

[bluestarone]

4. Same age here. yea this

World has flipped upside down.

[not fooled]

5. You and me both.

I'm touring another country this month to figure out where in that country I will move should I get residency. Was gonna do this during Krasnov's first term but after waiting until Covid subsided, Biden was elected. I figured the US couldn't possibly be so stupid again so didn't pursue emigrating at the time. Then Krasnov resurfaced and began running, in earnest. I started planning for the move again, and after the election it's a done deal. If I don't get residency in one country I'll move down the list. Not staying in the US, no way no how.

[DENVERPOPS]

33. You're not the only one

For several years now, from the time Trump was 45, the IRS has reported AN EVER INCREASING NUMBER of UBER rich U.S. citizens becoming ex-pats......primarily relocating to Dubai and the Scandinavian countries.....Probably the same places where they have been "Off Shoring" their money for decades.....Even if those countries have stringent policies about accepting transplants, they would gladly accept the Uber Wealthy, considering all their money/assets..........

[Mr.Bee]

7. Never, never, ever

elect REPUBLICANs ever again!
They Can't be Trusted!
Vote Them All Out!!

[Botany]

8. Burning America to the Ground for Putin

This is directed madness.

[dalton99a]

9. +1

[Codifer]

10. I am 80, It would not matter

if I could find a paradise where I could be the carefree expat.

I would still know that the country I loved and served has gone shit-eating crazy and cruel.

..... that would spoil everything.

[moondust]

12. Abandoning the Bigotanic?

I looked into it decades ago but it wasn't an option. Since the millionaires and billionaires will buy up all the seats on the lifeboats, I guess I'll be enjoying the music while going down with the ship.

Have fun!

[markodochartaigh]

13. I hope that people fortunate enough

to be able to escape will continue to vote as expats.

[ananda]

14. All so true, and so sad.

Thank you

[Gordcanuck]

15. I wouldn't come

to 🇨🇦 if you are pessimistic. We are to be annexed, so your president says. Your fate could be even worse. In 1800 to,about 1830,
those loyal to England who came here were in a number of cases hunted down by the early version of the Fenians, an Irish nationalist association. Most United Empire Loyalists, as they were called, survived the vilification and made substantial contributions to early Canada.
Those early days are gone, you’ll have better luck elsewhwe. Will I flee? Unlikely, I am in the same age cohort as you. For better or worse I’m staying.
Gord

[Evolve Dammit]

16. I totally understand and agree. It is inflicted by a criminal mob boss.

[PatSeg]

18. Obviously, you are not alone

though many of us cannot move to another country. All the talk of "immigrants" in recent years and now it looks like Americans will be the immigrants. I wonder how welcome we will be in other countries.

Good luck to you. I know that must have been a huge decision.

[ERW]

19. Where are you moving?

I hope to do the same in a few years. Where are you going, and why did you choose there?

[maxrandb]

20. I'm a little behind you, but right there with you

This is what happens when there is NO ACCOUNTABILITY!

I want to push back on your great post just a little bit.

They are trying to destroy all that we hold dear, and I predict that it will blow up in their faces.

I have nothing to say that would impact your decision, because I know nothing of your situation, or what you're dealing with, but I, for one, am not going anywhere, or giving up anything without a fight.

Almost all of the most egregious shit they are trying to do, is being blocked, and we are going to need people like you to pick up the pieces and get this country back on track.

The majority of Americans didn't vote for this shitshow, and everyday, more and more people are getting involved in the resistance.

We have gone through tough times before in this country, and a lot of those times were 100 times worse than these past two months.

America isn't perfect, but we have weathered stormy seas before, and are a better country for it.

I wish you well in your travels, but please don't go far. We're going to need you.

- Max

[c-rational]

29. Well said.

[crimycarny]

21. And with a total buffoon like Trump as the leader!

If I had imagined such a takeover of our democracy, the last person I thought people would roll over would be a complete cartoonish character like Trump. I would have imagined someone extremely handsome, intelligent, and articulate (albeit evil). Not some absolute laughable combover orange skinned moron.

[lindalou65]

22. To Leave the USA or to Stay?

I’m 77 also and, at times, my husband and I have discussed leaving. At this point, we have no idea where but likely Europe if we do. My husband is a geochemist and has many colleagues in Europe and South America. Some would likely help us if possible. On the one hand, It would be hard to leave my country where I have spent my entire life or my family and friends, and on the other hand I am fearful of living in a shit-hole country. You have to do whatever feels right for you. Best to you.

[Trailrider1951]

23. Fare well, wherever you land, SF

I hope you'll keep in touch with DU, and let us know what's up in your new neck of the woods.

[sinkingfeeling]

24. I'll be on DU as usual.

[OAITW r.2.0]

26. "elected politicians" or Republicans?

There is a difference.

[PJMcK]

28. I'm 67 and I agree

We’re buying a home overseas.

Enough.

[Lonestarblue]

30. I have been looking into buying a small condo on a Caribbean island that offers a second passport.

Given the deliberate destruction of our own government and the alienation of our allies, including nasty lies about the EU in that Signal chat, a US passport may not be welcome in the EU in the future. Several islands offer citizenship through investment. Have any of you ever invested in such a venture, and if so where?

[patphil]

31. Trump couldn't do more to destroy this nation if he was a Russian asset, following orders from Moscow.

Oh! Wait, he is....
President Krasnov.

Nothing else can explain his reckless moves that are undermining the safety and stability of America.

[rickyhall]

32. I hate say it. We need a Nixon. He was anti-Russian.

[valleyrogue]

34. That is the last thing we need, a real war criminal who should have been tried at The Hague.

The USSR is not Russia. The Russia of these days is run by gangsters.

[DENVERPOPS]

37. Actually, when growing up,

all I ever heard from the Republicans was about them hating Russians like nothing else.....
Pinko Commies, better dead than Red, etc etc etc

And then, they seem to have learned liking Russia and cooperating with them, led them to un-imaginable Power and Money....

Right after Trump completes his annexation of Canada, Greenland, and Iceland, then Russia will Annex Alaska to start with, then the United States......Putin realizes that there are tons of things in Canada, Greenland and Iceland, that he wants and needs. So even Trump taking them over, is as good as Russia owning them. Trump, Musk, and Republicans will allow Russia to do anything they desire up there....

Putin/Russia is already going all out building a huge fleet of Nuclear powered, Heavy Class IceBreakers.....in preparation for establishing a Northern Passage for shipping...........With Global Warming, and everything to the North Pole getting warmer and melting his job of building the Northen Passage seems more and more do-able.....

[Prairie_Seagull]

36. We have been considering something similar.

Put all heirloom stuff in a storage unit. Give keys to the heirs. Sounds easy peasy.

Very little is easy at 65 (my age) much less 77.

Feel for you sinkingfeeling.

We have to do what we must.

[DENVERPOPS]

39. There were a large quantity

of young men in 66-67-68-69-70 who made the decision to leave the country..........Many had figured out, that THE ONLY REASON for the U.S.'s Viet Nam involvement was to feed the Military Industrial Complex with un-fathomable amounts of profits, and they didn't even think about it costing tens of thousands of young men who were our nation's finest............

Of course if you were a rich kid, or privileged, you escaped the draft for four years of college, and places were reserved for you in the National Guard or Reserves when you graduated. Groups of Military that pretty much remained stateside. One most notable member of that GROUP was WBush who didn't even have to show up for duty..............

In 67-68 Defense Secretary McNamara told Johnson it was rumored the Norcoms were amassing a huge offensive, later called the TET OFFENSIVE. He needed 250,000 more draftees. He instructed recruiters that he had lowered the IQ requirement to 70? and to go after blacks because they were the easiest pickings. This group was known as: McNamara's Morons.......
Many young men left for Canada and other destinations rather than be sacrificed so a wealthy group of Corporations could make hundreds of millions of dollars off the Viet Nam mis-adventure......And, it has continued ever since then, one conflict or war after another.....

[LymphocyteLover]

40. the key thing to remember is that IOKIYAR

IT'S OK IF YOU'RE A REPUBLICAN!!!

[Michael Badamo]

41. evil bastards

I am 79. I resolved a few days ago that I will outlast and outlive the evil bastards. I won't be run out of my own country. No disrespect to anyone who chooses to leave.