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struggle4progress

(123,087 posts)
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 10:55 AM Mar 25

Greenland to rump: No, we didn't invite you

By Seb Starcevic
03/24/2025 07:14 PM EDT

Greenland did not invite an American delegation to come visit this week, the self-ruling island’s government said Monday, flatly denying a claim made by President Donald Trump ...

The planned visit has been met with anger in Greenland, with outgoing Prime Minister Múte B. Egede calling it part of the U.S.’ “very aggressive” bid to seize the Arctic island ...

“We are now at a level where this cannot in any way be characterized as a harmless visit from a politician’s wife. … The only purpose is to demonstrate power over us,” he said ...

“Just for the record, Naalakkersuisut, the government of Greenland, has not extended any invitations for any visits, neither private nor official,” the government said in a post on Facebook ...

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/24/greenland-trump-00246587



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Greenland to rump: No, we didn't invite you (Original Post) struggle4progress Mar 25 OP
Usha Vance surely knows what she's doing struggle4progress Mar 25 #1
The smiley face of our new nazi party struggle4progress Mar 25 #2
Hmmmm, in looking at this image of her in her very WHITE suit, I notice niyad Mar 25 #7
Greenland should treat them as regular tourists, let them chek-in into some hotel, let them reserve their tour guides Escurumbele Mar 25 #8
She turned out to be a real pig flamingdem Mar 25 #17
So now we know. Usha is a fucking asshole too. Nice dick move bringing her son. Maru Kitteh Mar 25 #26
Not just a demure spouse. She clerked for both Roberts and Kavanaugh. nature-lover Mar 25 #3
She's just an American lady on vacation with her son FakeNoose Mar 25 #34
She's a wolf in sheep's clothing. ... littlemissmartypants Mar 26 #36
Meet the new Eva Braun. Irish_Dem Mar 25 #4
I think Mr. trump talked VP Vacne into using his wife as a useful idiot Torchlight Mar 25 #5
"Mr. Trump" ButchMcMuffin Mar 25 #21
"Vacne" was a typo, but the devil on my shoulder talked me into not changing it Torchlight Mar 25 #27
Yeah like a fucking Trojan Horse... ".. the politicians Cha Mar 25 #28
She's a wolf in sheep's clothing. littlemissmartypants Mar 26 #37
Why was Usha sent? She has no diplomatic experience Owens Mar 25 #6
why did longshanks send the princess johnnyfins Mar 25 #9
She has worked with the Supreme Court. Hope22 Mar 25 #10
Because Melania's price was $10 million. tanyev Mar 25 #35
K&R for, what defense do they have against aggression/invasion? UTUSN Mar 25 #11
"She said in an Instagram video that she's especially looking forward to attending the country's national dogsled race" Ray Bruns Mar 25 #12
Plenty of snowball material around, though. NBachers Mar 25 #14
not true Kali999 Mar 25 #18
Like who? And how do you know they are looking forward to it? Ray Bruns Mar 25 #22
Never heard of the Iditarod then? Bev54 Mar 25 #29
Should be simple. TomSlick Mar 25 #13
I wish news outlets would cover this. William769 Mar 25 #15
I hear there are "Very nice" hotels in El Salvador for unwanted insurrectionists dickthegrouch Mar 25 #16
If I was Maj. Dude Mar 25 #19
Do anything even the least bit military-looking, and Drumpf will use that as an excuse to go to war. Aristus Mar 25 #31
They call Lyft; BidenRocks Mar 25 #20
They can't stop her from landing at Pituffik Arazi Mar 25 #23
I suppose she can wander around like any tourist tavernier Mar 25 #25
"I'm also coming to celebrate the long history of mutual respect and cooperation between our two nations," she added. ShazzieB Mar 25 #24
Now JD Vance has invited himself along as well Arazi Mar 25 #30
Yep, here is the link Bev54 Mar 25 #32
This admin will decide any provocative incident will merit a shitload more troops there Arazi Mar 25 #33

struggle4progress

(123,087 posts)
1. Usha Vance surely knows what she's doing
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 10:59 AM
Mar 25

March 25, 2025, 6:00 AM EDT
By Hayes Brown, MSNBC Opinion Writer/Editor

Second lady Usha Vance will travel to Greenland on Thursday, the White House announced, as part of a diplomatic trip to the massive frozen island. By going to a country that President Donald Trump has said he wants to buy or forcibly take, Vance’s visit will put her in the middle of one of the Trump administration’s least diplomatic acts of diplomacy, making it even harder to deny Trump’s blatant bullying.

Vance, who has kept a low profile since her husband, JD Vance, was sworn in as vice president, will be joined by one of the couple’s two sons. She said in an Instagram video that she’s especially looking forward to attending the country’s national dogsled race. “I’m also coming to celebrate the long history of mutual respect and cooperation between our two nations,” she added, “and to express hope that our relationship will only grow stronger in the coming years.”

Her mild words do little to paper over the current tensions between the U.S. and Greenland. Trump has been clear that he hopes to acquire the island from Denmark, reportedly at least in part because of how huge it appears on the most common map projection. He’s also hinted that it should be acquired for vague national security reasons or to obtain the minerals under its permafrost. Neither Greenland nor Denmark has been particularly enthusiastic about by Trump’s remarks, even less so after Trump hinted that, if it were not put up for sale, he could take Greenland by force or economic leverage ...

It feels ridiculously unnecessary for Vance to be dragged into this mess as the soft power side of what’s clearly a good cop-bad cop routine. But, then again, the vice presidency has long been regarded as one of the least consequential roles in Washington. By the transitive property alone, the role of the vice president’s spouse must be up there as far as gigs go. Second ladies (or, as of recently, gentlemen) haven’t accumulated the same sort of cache as cultural icons that first ladies have, but that still doesn’t help explain the odd choice of Vance’s first solo destination ...

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/usha-vance-greenland-mike-waltz-rcna197829

niyad

(123,587 posts)
7. Hmmmm, in looking at this image of her in her very WHITE suit, I notice
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 12:48 PM
Mar 25

that her skin tone is much lighter than in previous images, including the ones I just saw when I googled her name. And, just as an aside. .39 years old with all that gray hair (yes, I know, some people gray early)? talibilly couchhumper that much fun to live with?

Escurumbele

(3,783 posts)
8. Greenland should treat them as regular tourists, let them chek-in into some hotel, let them reserve their tour guides
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 01:07 PM
Mar 25

or whatever they want to do, all on their own, no security, no nothing, just regular tourists.

Maru Kitteh

(30,147 posts)
26. So now we know. Usha is a fucking asshole too. Nice dick move bringing her son.
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 03:15 PM
Mar 25

Fuck ALL these people. Sideways with rusty implements.

nature-lover

(1,836 posts)
3. Not just a demure spouse. She clerked for both Roberts and Kavanaugh.
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 11:07 AM
Mar 25

Last edited Tue Mar 25, 2025, 12:36 PM - Edit history (1)

FakeNoose

(37,269 posts)
34. She's just an American lady on vacation with her son
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 04:58 PM
Mar 25

Thinking of her as "younger, shorter Melania." She has no standing or authority with the US government.

littlemissmartypants

(27,532 posts)
36. She's a wolf in sheep's clothing. ...
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 01:52 AM
Mar 26

She put herself under the microscope. She's a Hindutva adherent.


Hindutva is at war with secular democracy in India
Amit Singh
February 2nd, 2024

...snip...
Hindu nationalism (also known as Hindutva) is ideologically a combination of religion and nationalism; it is a form of cultural nationalism that emphasises the supremacy of Hinduism and the Hindu majority. Hindu nationalism has continuously reproduced exclusionary practices toward other religious communities since its beginnings in 1925. The RSS (Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh), a Hindu militant organisation, fiercely divided Hindus along religious lines and reaffirmed its belief in Akhand Bharta (United India) with Hindus as rulers. Hindu nationalists have used religion more successfully than others for their goals. The function of Hindu religion in nationalism and its negative impact on secular democracy and human rights are also well known, especially the use of religion by Hindu nationalists in large scale anti-Muslim riots.

Why do Hindu nationalists view Indian secularism as a hostile discourse against a Hindu majority? Secularism in an Indian context allows for the equality and respect of all religions, whereas Hindu nationalism being an ‘ethno-centric’ discourse rejects secularism, enforces supremacy of Hindu religion, rejects cultural diversity, remains intolerant to dissenting views and justifies violence against dissenters. Secularism promotes freedom of belief and qualified freedom to express one’s beliefs while respecting the rights of others. Secularism also supports democracy, the rule of law, and individual freedom and liberty. The ideology of Hindutva, however, propagates the supremacy of Hindus over religious minorities, denies the latter any special rights and enforces the idea of one nation, one religion, one language, and one culture. In the Indian context, secularism instead promotes religious pluralism, religious tolerance, and cultural harmony between different faiths. Secularism strives for a society based on reason and rationality, while Hindutva promotes pseudo-science, myths and miracles as facts. It seeks to create an obedient society for the Hindu nation without the possibility of questioning unjust social dogmas.

Hindutva supporters have consistently attacked secularism as a state policy and weakened it through their communal practices of religious polarisation. According to Juli Gittinger, Hindu nationalists’ target is not the Muslim community, but rather ‘secular nationalism’. The ideology of secular nationalism poses a significant challenge to the project of homogeneity pursued by Hindutva organisations such as the RSS and Hindu Mahasabha.

The conflict between Hindu nationalism and secular democracy has become more apparent during the tenure of Prime Minister Narendra Modi, a right-wing Hindu nationalist...
Snip...

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/religionglobalsociety/2024/02/hindutva-is-at-war-with-secular-democracy-in-india/#:~:text=Secularism%20also%20supports%20democracy%2C%20the,one%20language%2C%20and%20one%20culture.


Any of this sound familiar?

Torchlight

(4,588 posts)
5. I think Mr. trump talked VP Vacne into using his wife as a useful idiot
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 12:33 PM
Mar 25

with the sole intention of simply adding fuel to his idiot fire.

Hope22

(3,942 posts)
10. She has worked with the Supreme Court.
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 01:16 PM
Mar 25

Clerked for one and Coached Kavanaugh through his hearings. There was a post out here yesterday. . She’s no innocent…….

Ray Bruns

(5,185 posts)
12. "She said in an Instagram video that she's especially looking forward to attending the country's national dogsled race"
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 01:29 PM
Mar 25

No one is looking forward to attending a dogsled race. Ever!

Kali999

(163 posts)
18. not true
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 01:52 PM
Mar 25

Lots of people watch dog races. But her visit is not welcome. The fucking nerve of this twat clerk

Ray Bruns

(5,185 posts)
22. Like who? And how do you know they are looking forward to it?
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 02:09 PM
Mar 25

Sounds like something you just suffer through.

And I don’t believe for a minute that someone like Usha Vance “wants” to attend.

Maj. Dude

(12 posts)
19. If I was
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 01:56 PM
Mar 25

The PM. of Greenland, I would let the plane land safely. Then surround it with military vehicles and one fuel truck. And then maybe let them open the door to get some fresh air inside (because of the stench), fuel it and include a stiff tariff. And direct it to take off.

Aristus

(69,869 posts)
31. Do anything even the least bit military-looking, and Drumpf will use that as an excuse to go to war.
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 04:37 PM
Mar 25

Let's not throw gasoline on smoldering coals...

BidenRocks

(1,427 posts)
20. They call Lyft;
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 01:58 PM
Mar 25

Send a dogsled.
Keep them at Pituffik space base.
Tell them there is a problem with their paperwork.
Then sieze and download any negatives about Greenland from their phones.
Then it's off to El Salvador.
Who needs real charges anyway?

Arazi

(7,757 posts)
23. They can't stop her from landing at Pituffik
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 02:10 PM
Mar 25

But I presume they can prevent her from leaving the base “for security reasons” right?

Hostile protesting Greenlanders can’t be a very safe environment right? 😈

tavernier

(13,669 posts)
25. I suppose she can wander around like any tourist
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 02:26 PM
Mar 25

Especially if there is no one to meet or greet her. I’m sure with her great résumé she has enough intelligence to check into a hotel.

ShazzieB

(20,522 posts)
24. "I'm also coming to celebrate the long history of mutual respect and cooperation between our two nations," she added.
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 02:12 PM
Mar 25

What nation, you wretched nit? Greenland is a territory of Denmark, not a nation!

Arazi

(7,757 posts)
30. Now JD Vance has invited himself along as well
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 04:28 PM
Mar 25

This is a deliberate provocation imo.

They want to provoke confrontations

Bev54

(12,416 posts)
32. Yep, here is the link
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 04:53 PM
Mar 25
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/25/danish-pm-mette-frederiksen-condemns-us-pressure-greenland-visit

Mette Frederiksen, the Danish prime minister, has accused the US of putting “unacceptable pressure” on Greenland – which she has vowed to resist – before an unsolicited visit to the Arctic island by members of the Trump administration.

Later, just hours after her comments, the White House sprang a fresh surprise, as the US vice-president, JD Vance, announced he would join his wife on a trip to the territory this week.

“There was so much excitement around Usha’s visit to Greenland this Friday that I decided that I didn’t want her to have all that fun by herself, and so I’m going to join her,” Vance said in a video on X.

“Speaking for President Trump, we want to reinvigorate the security of the people of Greenland because we think it’s important to protecting the security of the entire world.”[/
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Arazi

(7,757 posts)
33. This admin will decide any provocative incident will merit a shitload more troops there
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 04:57 PM
Mar 25

Needs a pretense to shift a ton of troops there to “protect the military base”.

Greenland shouldn’t let either of them get off the base and into the streets

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