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Mr. Sparkle

(3,422 posts)
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 07:03 AM Mar 25

If Pete Hegseth Had Any Honor, He Would Resign. NY Times

I don’t know how Pete Hegseth can look service members in the eye. He’s just blown his credibility as a military leader. On Monday, The Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg published one of the most extraordinary stories I’ve ever read. President Trump’s national security adviser, Michael Waltz, apparently inadvertently invited Goldberg to join a Signal group chat (Signal is an encrypted messaging app) that seemed to include several senior Trump officials, including Stephen Miller, JD Vance, Marco Rubio and Pete Hegseth.

A National Security Council spokesman told The Atlantic that the chat “appears to be authentic.” No one apparently noticed Goldberg’s presence, and he had a front-row seat as they debated Trump’s decision to attack the Houthi rebels, an Iran-backed militia that had been firing on civilian shipping in the Red Sea. Then, at 11:44 a.m. on March 15, the account labeled “Pete Hegseth” sent a message that contained “operational details of forthcoming strikes on Yemen, including information about targets, weapons the U.S. would be deploying and attack sequencing.”

This would be a stunning breach of security. I’m a former Army JAG officer (an Army lawyer). I’ve helped investigate numerous allegations of classified information spillages, and I’ve never even heard of anything this egregious — a secretary of defense intentionally using a civilian messaging app to share sensitive war plans without even apparently noticing a journalist was in the chat. There is not an officer alive whose career would survive a security breach like that. It would normally result in instant consequences (relief from command, for example) followed by a comprehensive investigation and, potentially, criminal charges.

Federal law makes it a crime when a person — through gross negligence — removes information “relating to the national defense” from “its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted or destroyed.”

more... https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/24/opinion/atlantic-hegseth-vance-houthis.html
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If Pete Hegseth Had Any Honor, He Would Resign. NY Times (Original Post) Mr. Sparkle Mar 25 OP
The Universe Has Boundaries -- Stupidity Knows No Bounds MayReasonRule Mar 25 #1
And fat. And wants to wear really orange makeup. Ray Bruns Mar 25 #10
They all committed serious federal crimes. Irish_Dem Mar 25 #2
He raped a women Henry203 Mar 25 #3
Should never use "honor" & that POS hegseth in the same sentence. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 25 #4
He was asleep at the wheel. Incompetent administration. Emile Mar 25 #5
More likely drunk and passed out. Ray Bruns Mar 25 #9
HONOR? We don't need no stinking HONOR! ProudMNDemocrat Mar 25 #6
Of course this is the Trump administration. Honor, like that's so yesterday! n/t Vogon_Glory Mar 25 #7
Too little, too late, NY Times. As usual. (nt) Paladin Mar 25 #8
If the NY Times had any honor they wouldn't have normalized the Felon in the White House. NNadir Mar 25 #11
As has all the rest of the media. Gimpyknee Mar 25 #15
Lock her up with Mike Flynn Botany Mar 25 #12
Oh, that guy lonely bird Mar 25 #16
And he gave up Crimea to Russia in 2013 Botany Mar 25 #26
A possible Russian asset? lonely bird Mar 25 #28
Russia got their hooks into Flynn in 2012 or '13 Botany Mar 25 #34
That is for damn sure lonely bird Mar 25 #35
Honor? blubunyip Mar 25 #13
They all should lose their jobs over this and at the very least, Hegseth should go to jail. Wiz Imp Mar 25 #14
Kick dalton99a Mar 25 #17
If Pete Hegseth had any honor, he wouldn't have become the Pete Hegseth we know. highplainsdem Mar 25 #18
No kidding! SheltieLover Mar 25 #20
No worries. He's a rethug so zero honor is a requirement SheltieLover Mar 25 #19
If there were any honor left in this country ... Hope22 Mar 25 #21
If TSF has any honor, he will fire them all RainCaster Mar 25 #22
I forgot what honor feels like In It to Win It Mar 25 #23
Well, we know that the orange man would NEVER Bettie Mar 25 #24
The Trump regime is absolutely corrupt and none of his appointees have a shred of honor Mysterian Mar 25 #25
shithole musk republicans have no honor and they are not patriotic............... Lovie777 Mar 25 #27
If Pete Hegseth had any honor, he would not have accepted the job in the first place. LoisB Mar 25 #29
G.O.P.ers like Heg's Seth don't do honor BoRaGard Mar 25 #30
If the drunkard had any honour, he would not be the scumbag that he is. niyad Mar 25 #31
Everyone on that text EXCEPT the reporter should resign. AllyCat Mar 25 #32
He has no shame. Woodwizard Mar 25 #33
Drunk rapist Nazi has zero honor-which is why he was chosen -his similarity to tsf - only prettier! lark Mar 25 #36
Such an obviously dishonorable, despicable Dark n Stormy Knight Mar 26 #38
Hegseth needs to go LetMyPeopleVote Mar 25 #37
LOL Meowmee Mar 26 #39

Ray Bruns

(5,185 posts)
10. And fat. And wants to wear really orange makeup.
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 08:07 AM
Mar 25

And is a draft dodger. Yea, that’s the ticket.

ProudMNDemocrat

(19,619 posts)
6. HONOR? We don't need no stinking HONOR!
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 07:55 AM
Mar 25

What a bunch of fucking morons headed by the Commander of the Fucking Morons!

Botany

(74,055 posts)
26. And he gave up Crimea to Russia in 2013
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 09:39 AM
Mar 25

... after which President Obama fired him and
he moved to Russia and then came back in '15
to work for Trump.

Botany

(74,055 posts)
34. Russia got their hooks into Flynn in 2012 or '13
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 10:09 AM
Mar 25

when he went to Russia. He is deeply compromised.

Wiz Imp

(4,922 posts)
14. They all should lose their jobs over this and at the very least, Hegseth should go to jail.
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 09:00 AM
Mar 25

Of course none of that will happen, but it's the only possible fair & reasonable outcome of this.

Hope22

(3,942 posts)
21. If there were any honor left in this country ...
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 09:16 AM
Mar 25

…all involved in the meeting would lose their job and face charges for endangering this country and those who protect it. TSF and his ill prepared team make a mockery of Federal Law intended to keep this country and the people in it safe.

Bettie

(18,230 posts)
24. Well, we know that the orange man would NEVER
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 09:31 AM
Mar 25

appoint anyone who even knew what honor was, let alone having any, so there will be no resignation.

He could be seen in public giving intel directly into Putin's hands and stay in his position.

Mysterian

(5,562 posts)
25. The Trump regime is absolutely corrupt and none of his appointees have a shred of honor
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 09:38 AM
Mar 25

or patriotism. They are gangsters intent only on enriching themselves with money and power.

BoRaGard

(5,271 posts)
30. G.O.P.ers like Heg's Seth don't do honor
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 09:54 AM
Mar 25

They have sworn fealty to a draft-dodging, casino-hustling, big mouth felon.

That's all they got.

AllyCat

(17,889 posts)
32. Everyone on that text EXCEPT the reporter should resign.
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 10:01 AM
Mar 25

All of them. They are unqualified and unsafe for the job.

Woodwizard

(1,170 posts)
33. He has no shame.
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 10:05 AM
Mar 25

A requirement when being a Republican anymore. The fact that he doubled down on it is enough.

We all know if this had been Obama's or Biden's watch this would be outrage fuel for the right for a minimum of a year. And deservedly so.

lark

(24,972 posts)
36. Drunk rapist Nazi has zero honor-which is why he was chosen -his similarity to tsf - only prettier!
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 11:08 AM
Mar 25

He's still a subhuman monster.

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