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Irish_Dem

(69,288 posts)
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 06:05 AM Mar 25

Trump's team is totally incompetent.

They put the US military and CIA agents in grave danger.

They cannot handle even the basics to keep Americans safe.

But we are supposed to believe and trust that Musk throughly understands what he is doing and has
done all his homework prior to dismantling the US federal government.

We are supposed to believe that they throughly vetted all the alleged "gang members"
prior to disappearing them illegally.

We are supposed to trust that Trump knows exactly what he is doing with the tariffs and
his plans to invade other countries.

We are screwed.

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Trump's team is totally incompetent. (Original Post) Irish_Dem Mar 25 OP
I think he knows exactly what he's doing. William769 Mar 25 #1
Yes Trump is really competent when it comes to taking Putin orders. Irish_Dem Mar 25 #2
I dunno; they seem to be working very hard Buns_of_Fire Mar 25 #3
Yes the wrecking ball is competent. Irish_Dem Mar 25 #4
It's the Trump tsunami of incompetence and malfeasance. sop Mar 25 #5
Yes the US as a world leader is being destroyed. Irish_Dem Mar 25 #8
Yes. It is clearly the belief system muskRAT is guided by. yellow dahlia Mar 25 #44
Your Post Title Deserves Repetition wyn borkins Mar 25 #6
What really stunned me about the Signal Horror was that practically all of Trump's senior staff and Raven Mar 25 #7
Yes the signal chat list was absolutely stunning. Irish_Dem Mar 25 #9
Thanks for listing them out. :-) Raven Mar 25 #21
Not one of them spoke up. yardwork Mar 25 #29
They all knew signal chat is not secure. Irish_Dem Mar 25 #37
"BUT HER EMAILS!" ChazInAz Mar 25 #36
I saw a video with Rick Wilson and Stuart Scott after the Signal platform story broke. brush Mar 25 #42
Yes other experts are saying the same thing. Irish_Dem Mar 25 #43
I don't know if you watched the Hearing today, but Tulsi was asked if she was using her personal Raven Mar 25 #54
I watceh some of it and saw her deny it the Signal chat group was a mistake. brush Mar 25 #55
Which tells us they use Signal all the time. They can't keep us safe. They are actvely endangering us. SharonAnn Mar 25 #25
Yes, and that should be the first question that is asked of these morons. Raven Mar 25 #31
Yes and their personal phones. Irish_Dem Mar 25 #38
Yeh! Like the Dir. of "INTELLIGENCE". Nothing intelligent here. yellow dahlia Mar 25 #45
DEI moondust Mar 25 #10
Yes rapists, traitors, drug addicted mentally ill criminals are the new DEI. Irish_Dem Mar 25 #12
None of these people were hired for their competence. surfered Mar 25 #11
I think they were hired for their incompetence and loyalty. Irish_Dem Mar 25 #13
It is by design... kentuck Mar 25 #41
Likely another instruction from Pootin. yellow dahlia Mar 25 #46
Has Putin's fingerprints on it. Irish_Dem Mar 25 #48
What else will they botch up? C_U_L8R Mar 25 #14
We don't know how bad it will get. Irish_Dem Mar 25 #15
Yup, we also don't yet know if the US public will creatively charge in and take advantage of their incompetence. Magoo48 Mar 25 #34
Yes it is up to we the people now. Irish_Dem Mar 25 #39
Nope, I'm glad I can't see the future; we simply do our parts the best we are able. Magoo48 Mar 25 #40
Susan Collin's is extremely troubled Orrex Mar 25 #16
Someone might even write a sternly worded letter. Irish_Dem Mar 25 #18
Can a Presidency be impeached? Bumbles Mar 25 #17
A president can be impeached. But no one will touch Trump. Irish_Dem Mar 25 #19
I was trying to think outside the box with that question. Bumbles Mar 25 #24
We are currently in the nine circles of hell. Irish_Dem Mar 25 #49
And, lest we forget... GiqueCee Mar 25 #20
The incompetent being.... MarcoZandrini Mar 25 #22
Part of that seems intentional Maeve Mar 25 #23
Most of it is intentional, it is part of the agenda. With Hegsend not sure if he was drunk at the time, he seems to have Escurumbele Mar 25 #30
When (and if) he is sober is still an arrogant incompetent underqualified bloviating asshole. yellow dahlia Mar 25 #50
If I were on a group chat at work, and there was a phone number I didn't know.... yardwork Mar 25 #26
We COULD rise up and take our country back from the Fascist Menace. mwb970 Mar 25 #27
But how? yellow dahlia Mar 25 #51
Well I guess we might as well just give up and surrender then. mwb970 Mar 28 #56
I'm not advocating giving up - just the opposite. yellow dahlia Mar 28 #58
Yes, there are some incompetent people chosen by trump, no doubt about that, but they are loyal, which is what he cares Escurumbele Mar 25 #28
Putin plays Trump like a violin. yardwork Mar 25 #32
Good points. yellow dahlia Mar 25 #52
He is just nowforever Mar 25 #33
They work for a poser. Kid Berwyn Mar 25 #35
Musk took orphans off of social security because of their age flamingdem Mar 25 #47
And everyone of them is a flat out fucking LIAR. spanone Mar 25 #53
Duh! malaise Mar 28 #57

Buns_of_Fire

(18,396 posts)
3. I dunno; they seem to be working very hard
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 06:29 AM
Mar 25

at what they were put there to do; that is, to gut and delegitimize their entire departments.

sop

(14,044 posts)
5. It's the Trump tsunami of incompetence and malfeasance.
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 06:45 AM
Mar 25

This became apparent when he nominated a collection of anti-qualified and corrupt misfits to head (and destroy) important government agencies. It's obvious we are being dragged back to the Dark Ages by Trump and his henchmen. Their "governing philosophy" can only be described as neo-feudalism.

(Neo-feudalism is a rebirth of policies of governance, economy, and public life, reminiscent of those which were present in many feudal societies. Such aspects include, but are not limited to: Unequal rights and legal protections for common people and for nobility (oligarchs), dominance of societies by a small and powerful elite, a lack of social mobility, and relations of lordship and serfdom between the elite and the people, where the former are rich and the latter poor.)

Irish_Dem

(69,288 posts)
8. Yes the US as a world leader is being destroyed.
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 06:53 AM
Mar 25

The arts, science, culture, military, democracy, education. All taken away.

Back to a dark time in human history.

yellow dahlia

(2,352 posts)
44. Yes. It is clearly the belief system muskRAT is guided by.
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 12:56 PM
Mar 25

Anything about trying to fix the government is an out and out lie. He and Thiel are like demented Bond villains trying to control the future.

I don't why the RepubliCONS who are allowing this to happen don't realize that they will be expendable, as will many in the clown car of "dept heads".

Just watched the hearing in the Senate with intelligence heads. They are the clowns and court jesters. Their incompetence is the point. If they don't destroy it all on purpose, they will do so with their incompetence. This thing with the text chain on signal is a perfect example of why they are not suited to their jobs.

We are all indeed SO screwed.

Raven

(14,252 posts)
7. What really stunned me about the Signal Horror was that practically all of Trump's senior staff and
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 06:53 AM
Mar 25

Cabinet were on that call and nobody noticed that anything was wrong.

Irish_Dem

(69,288 posts)
9. Yes the signal chat list was absolutely stunning.
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 07:07 AM
Mar 25

Not one of them knew what they were doing was wrong, a horrible breach of national security?

Vice President JD Vance
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth
National Security Advisor Mike Waltz.
Secretary of State Marco Rubio
Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard
Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent
CIA Director John Ratcliffe
Chief of Staff, Susie Wiles

Also why was Treasury there?
Trump always has a money angle with anything he does.

yardwork

(66,536 posts)
29. Not one of them spoke up.
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 08:49 AM
Mar 25

Not one of them noticed that there was a phone number in the chat that none of them recognized.

Irish_Dem

(69,288 posts)
37. They all knew signal chat is not secure.
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 09:23 AM
Mar 25

And they were on their personal phones.

These are federal crimes.

ChazInAz

(2,888 posts)
36. "BUT HER EMAILS!"
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 09:13 AM
Mar 25

"We MUST see her router!"
I notice one significant absence on that list: the lout in the White House. One would think he'd be participating in such a high-stakes discussion.

brush

(59,763 posts)
42. I saw a video with Rick Wilson and Stuart Scott after the Signal platform story broke.
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 09:48 AM
Mar 25

Last edited Tue Mar 25, 2025, 04:28 PM - Edit history (2)

They pointed out that bozos on that discussion group were so arrogant and confident of their smarts to be on Signal undetected for their group discussions instead of a secure government schif recording their comments...so smart that it never occurred to them that Russian, Chinese and Iranian intel agents have been tracking them and their cell phone messaging since being appointed and before trump took office on Jan. 20th.

I also watched the despicable Mika and Joe show for a while and noticed that they all studiously avoided mentioning that enemy intel agents have been tracking the trump adimn clown car cabinet member's phones.

It was as if they didn't want to ruffled feathers with trump by talking about the stupidity of his staffers for not realizing their phones are all being tracked by foreign intel agents who find out what's going to happen before it does.

Irish_Dem

(69,288 posts)
43. Yes other experts are saying the same thing.
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 12:16 PM
Mar 25

Russian, Chinese, Iran, North Korean agents have been tracking high level Trump officials
since the campaign.

Very easy to access personal phone data.

In other words our enemies know everything.
The American people are the only ones in the dark.

Raven

(14,252 posts)
54. I don't know if you watched the Hearing today, but Tulsi was asked if she was using her personal
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 02:18 PM
Mar 25

phone when she took the Signal meeting and she refused to answer the question.

brush

(59,763 posts)
55. I watceh some of it and saw her deny it the Signal chat group was a mistake.
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 03:56 PM
Mar 25

In fact all the rethugs were lying and saying it wasn't s mistake and no classified info was discussed. Such lies. We all heard what the journalist, who Hegseth foolishly invited onto the thread, state that there classified details, methods and war plan scheduling spoken about during the discussion the he discreetly chose not to mention.

The musk/trump incompetent clown car cabinet rolls on causing chaos creating doubt from former allies all along the way.

SharonAnn

(14,045 posts)
25. Which tells us they use Signal all the time. They can't keep us safe. They are actvely endangering us.
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 08:44 AM
Mar 25

yellow dahlia

(2,352 posts)
45. Yeh! Like the Dir. of "INTELLIGENCE". Nothing intelligent here.
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 12:58 PM
Mar 25

And the Dir. of the Central Intelligence Agy. Nothing intelligent here.

moondust

(20,856 posts)
10. DEI
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 07:35 AM
Mar 25

Doesn't that say that careless, ignorant, incompetent, foolish, lying, slandering, drunken white male national security risks must be included in consideration for high-level government positions?

Irish_Dem

(69,288 posts)
48. Has Putin's fingerprints on it.
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 01:05 PM
Mar 25

Putin loves installing buffoons and idiots into high US office.
Makes democracy look foolish and a failed form of government.

Also quickest way to destroy the US.
And make the US a world laughing stock, never to be trusted again.

C_U_L8R

(47,251 posts)
14. What else will they botch up?
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 07:43 AM
Mar 25

They can't even face up to this smorgasbord of incompetence and criminality. They seem determined to fuck up in the most spectacular ways. Golden era, my ass.

Magoo48

(6,280 posts)
34. Yup, we also don't yet know if the US public will creatively charge in and take advantage of their incompetence.
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 09:00 AM
Mar 25

Bumbles

(371 posts)
17. Can a Presidency be impeached?
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 07:51 AM
Mar 25

I guess to sway the Republicans, we on the other side would need to have more dirt on them or be able to offer more than not being primaried or offer some monetary reward. Certainly, having a conscience or care for the planet is beyond them. Sad, sorry, and short-sighted. Unfortunately, they're at the helm of our very leaky ship of state with no knowledge about how to navigate it, nor desire or ability to learn.

Irish_Dem

(69,288 posts)
19. A president can be impeached. But no one will touch Trump.
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 07:58 AM
Mar 25

He has immunity and a completely bought off congress.

The concept of public good, public service, working for the American people, upholding
democracy and the constitution are all quaint outdated concepts.

Bumbles

(371 posts)
24. I was trying to think outside the box with that question.
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 08:43 AM
Mar 25

Where do you think we're headed?

Irish_Dem

(69,288 posts)
49. We are currently in the nine circles of hell.
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 01:07 PM
Mar 25

I don't know what follows that.

Seriously, I do not know what will happen.
But we are not going in a good direction.

GiqueCee

(2,187 posts)
20. And, lest we forget...
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 08:04 AM
Mar 25

... the most corrupt and nakedly partisan Supreme Court majority in American history encased the most dimwitted imbecile ever to defile the Oval Office in the bullet-proof bubble wrap of complete immunity for any and all fuck-ups related to his "official duties" as president. The term, "official duties", is also imbued with infinite vagueness and flexibility.
Republicans, and the shitweasels behind Project 2025, own this monstrous catastrophe. May they spend the rest of their worthless, evil lives contemplating their perfidy from the comfort of their prison cells.
Are you listening, Mr. Vought?

Escurumbele

(3,783 posts)
30. Most of it is intentional, it is part of the agenda. With Hegsend not sure if he was drunk at the time, he seems to have
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 08:49 AM
Mar 25

a drinking problem, but it could also be part of the agenda.

yellow dahlia

(2,352 posts)
50. When (and if) he is sober is still an arrogant incompetent underqualified bloviating asshole.
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 01:11 PM
Mar 25

So he is capable of fucking up, at any time.

yardwork

(66,536 posts)
26. If I were on a group chat at work, and there was a phone number I didn't know....
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 08:47 AM
Mar 25

I would immediately ask "who is in our group?" before I texted anything. Anything.

And my job has nothing to do with national security.

It's just "common sense" - as Trump likes to say .

yellow dahlia

(2,352 posts)
51. But how?
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 01:16 PM
Mar 25

They have all the protection around them. They have usurped all the law enforcement and military power. They put incompetent loyalists in charge of those "forces" by design.

yellow dahlia

(2,352 posts)
58. I'm not advocating giving up - just the opposite.
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 06:11 PM
Mar 28

I am doing everything I know how to do to fight back. But I keep asking what more we can do.

And I keep hoping there is a legal path or other method to get this country out of the clutches of the destroyers.

Escurumbele

(3,783 posts)
28. Yes, there are some incompetent people chosen by trump, no doubt about that, but they are loyal, which is what he cares
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 08:48 AM
Mar 25

about.

But let us not be fooled with the "incompetence" label. This is exactly what happened in Venezuela and what happens in every country where a dictator (wannabe in USA) takes power. In Venezuela people kept thinking that Hugo Chavez and his minions were incompetent, but they were not, they knew exactly what they were doing, Chavez, and then Maduro, were being coached by Fidel Castro who was still alive at the time, trump and his minions are being coached by Putin, same situation.

The four apartheid people, Musk, Thiel, and the other two that I don't remember their names, also know what they are doing, they also seem to be part of the team with Putin, they are not incompetent, they are following the agenda to perfection and the destruction is moving at a very rapid pace. Why the military or the intelligent agencies are not doing anything to stop them I would like to know.

If anyone read Chapter 9 of John Bolton's book "The room where it happened" you will find that Bolton was ready to remove Maduro and the regime from office, he had all the key players, the plan, etc., to move in and truly liberate Venezuela, but Putin told trump that Juan Guiado (who had won the presidency but Maduro, like he is doing now, would not remove himself from office) was weak, that Maduro was intelligent and strong, so trump turned around and told John Bolton to scrap the plans, and proceeded to repeat what Putin had told him about Guaido and Maduro. According to Olivia Troye, who worked for Mike Pence, trump is a big admirer of Nicolas Maduro, trump wants to be like Maduro.

So lets remember that evil does not equate to incompetence, we think it is incompetence because they destroy, but that IS their agenda.

yellow dahlia

(2,352 posts)
52. Good points.
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 01:19 PM
Mar 25

muskRAT knows exactly what he is doing. He is just hiding behind a false narrative.

nowforever

(498 posts)
33. He is just
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 08:54 AM
Mar 25

displaying all the characteristics of a malignant narcissist. Now the wounded narcissist is exacting revenge on anyone or anything that he perceives as a threat. So giving ultimate power to a mentally ill person is a good way to destroy the world. We need a Ceasar like moment to rectify this.

Kid Berwyn

(20,258 posts)
35. They work for a poser.
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 09:05 AM
Mar 25

The lowest poser, ever. So, what can a formerly robust democracy expect from a vile, vain, demented, unstable moronic traitor who smells of soiled undergarments?

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