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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump's team is totally incompetent.
They put the US military and CIA agents in grave danger.
They cannot handle even the basics to keep Americans safe.
But we are supposed to believe and trust that Musk throughly understands what he is doing and has
done all his homework prior to dismantling the US federal government.
We are supposed to believe that they throughly vetted all the alleged "gang members"
prior to disappearing them illegally.
We are supposed to trust that Trump knows exactly what he is doing with the tariffs and
his plans to invade other countries.
We are screwed.

William769
(58,805 posts)Taking orders from mother Russia.
Irish_Dem
(69,288 posts)Buns_of_Fire
(18,396 posts)at what they were put there to do; that is, to gut and delegitimize their entire departments.
Irish_Dem
(69,288 posts)sop
(14,044 posts)This became apparent when he nominated a collection of anti-qualified and corrupt misfits to head (and destroy) important government agencies. It's obvious we are being dragged back to the Dark Ages by Trump and his henchmen. Their "governing philosophy" can only be described as neo-feudalism.
(Neo-feudalism is a rebirth of policies of governance, economy, and public life, reminiscent of those which were present in many feudal societies. Such aspects include, but are not limited to: Unequal rights and legal protections for common people and for nobility (oligarchs), dominance of societies by a small and powerful elite, a lack of social mobility, and relations of lordship and serfdom between the elite and the people, where the former are rich and the latter poor.)
Irish_Dem
(69,288 posts)The arts, science, culture, military, democracy, education. All taken away.
Back to a dark time in human history.
yellow dahlia
(2,352 posts)Anything about trying to fix the government is an out and out lie. He and Thiel are like demented Bond villains trying to control the future.
I don't why the RepubliCONS who are allowing this to happen don't realize that they will be expendable, as will many in the clown car of "dept heads".
Just watched the hearing in the Senate with intelligence heads. They are the clowns and court jesters. Their incompetence is the point. If they don't destroy it all on purpose, they will do so with their incompetence. This thing with the text chain on signal is a perfect example of why they are not suited to their jobs.
We are all indeed SO screwed.
wyn borkins
(1,264 posts)Raven
(14,252 posts)Cabinet were on that call and nobody noticed that anything was wrong.
Irish_Dem
(69,288 posts)Not one of them knew what they were doing was wrong, a horrible breach of national security?
Vice President JD Vance
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth
National Security Advisor Mike Waltz.
Secretary of State Marco Rubio
Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard
Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent
CIA Director John Ratcliffe
Chief of Staff, Susie Wiles
Also why was Treasury there?
Trump always has a money angle with anything he does.
Raven
(14,252 posts)yardwork
(66,536 posts)Not one of them noticed that there was a phone number in the chat that none of them recognized.
Irish_Dem
(69,288 posts)And they were on their personal phones.
These are federal crimes.
ChazInAz
(2,888 posts)"We MUST see her router!"
I notice one significant absence on that list: the lout in the White House. One would think he'd be participating in such a high-stakes discussion.
brush
(59,763 posts)Last edited Tue Mar 25, 2025, 04:28 PM - Edit history (2)
They pointed out that bozos on that discussion group were so arrogant and confident of their smarts to be on Signal undetected for their group discussions instead of a secure government schif recording their comments...so smart that it never occurred to them that Russian, Chinese and Iranian intel agents have been tracking them and their cell phone messaging since being appointed and before trump took office on Jan. 20th.
I also watched the despicable Mika and Joe show for a while and noticed that they all studiously avoided mentioning that enemy intel agents have been tracking the trump adimn clown car cabinet member's phones.
It was as if they didn't want to ruffled feathers with trump by talking about the stupidity of his staffers for not realizing their phones are all being tracked by foreign intel agents who find out what's going to happen before it does.
Irish_Dem
(69,288 posts)Russian, Chinese, Iran, North Korean agents have been tracking high level Trump officials
since the campaign.
Very easy to access personal phone data.
In other words our enemies know everything.
The American people are the only ones in the dark.
Raven
(14,252 posts)phone when she took the Signal meeting and she refused to answer the question.
brush
(59,763 posts)In fact all the rethugs were lying and saying it wasn't s mistake and no classified info was discussed. Such lies. We all heard what the journalist, who Hegseth foolishly invited onto the thread, state that there classified details, methods and war plan scheduling spoken about during the discussion the he discreetly chose not to mention.
The musk/trump incompetent clown car cabinet rolls on causing chaos creating doubt from former allies all along the way.
SharonAnn
(14,045 posts)Raven
(14,252 posts)Irish_Dem
(69,288 posts)Violation of federal law.
yellow dahlia
(2,352 posts)And the Dir. of the Central Intelligence Agy. Nothing intelligent here.
moondust
(20,856 posts)Doesn't that say that careless, ignorant, incompetent, foolish, lying, slandering, drunken white male national security risks must be included in consideration for high-level government positions?
Irish_Dem
(69,288 posts)surfered
(6,567 posts)They were hired for their loyalty.
Irish_Dem
(69,288 posts)kentuck
(113,698 posts)...for whatever reason?
yellow dahlia
(2,352 posts)Irish_Dem
(69,288 posts)Putin loves installing buffoons and idiots into high US office.
Makes democracy look foolish and a failed form of government.
Also quickest way to destroy the US.
And make the US a world laughing stock, never to be trusted again.
C_U_L8R
(47,251 posts)They can't even face up to this smorgasbord of incompetence and criminality. They seem determined to fuck up in the most spectacular ways. Golden era, my ass.
Irish_Dem
(69,288 posts)We know they will continue to screw up.
Magoo48
(6,280 posts)Irish_Dem
(69,288 posts)Dont know what will happen.
Magoo48
(6,280 posts)
Orrex
(65,118 posts)Isnt that reaction enough?
Irish_Dem
(69,288 posts)Bumbles
(371 posts)I guess to sway the Republicans, we on the other side would need to have more dirt on them or be able to offer more than not being primaried or offer some monetary reward. Certainly, having a conscience or care for the planet is beyond them. Sad, sorry, and short-sighted. Unfortunately, they're at the helm of our very leaky ship of state with no knowledge about how to navigate it, nor desire or ability to learn.
Irish_Dem
(69,288 posts)He has immunity and a completely bought off congress.
The concept of public good, public service, working for the American people, upholding
democracy and the constitution are all quaint outdated concepts.
Bumbles
(371 posts)Where do you think we're headed?
Irish_Dem
(69,288 posts)I don't know what follows that.
Seriously, I do not know what will happen.
But we are not going in a good direction.
GiqueCee
(2,187 posts)... the most corrupt and nakedly partisan Supreme Court majority in American history encased the most dimwitted imbecile ever to defile the Oval Office in the bullet-proof bubble wrap of complete immunity for any and all fuck-ups related to his "official duties" as president. The term, "official duties", is also imbued with infinite vagueness and flexibility.
Republicans, and the shitweasels behind Project 2025, own this monstrous catastrophe. May they spend the rest of their worthless, evil lives contemplating their perfidy from the comfort of their prison cells.
Are you listening, Mr. Vought?
MarcoZandrini
(77 posts).lead by the incontinent.
Maeve
(43,224 posts)Makes stealing from the government easier
Escurumbele
(3,783 posts)a drinking problem, but it could also be part of the agenda.
yellow dahlia
(2,352 posts)So he is capable of fucking up, at any time.
yardwork
(66,536 posts)I would immediately ask "who is in our group?" before I texted anything. Anything.
And my job has nothing to do with national security.
It's just "common sense" - as Trump likes to say .
mwb970
(11,831 posts)But will we?
yellow dahlia
(2,352 posts)They have all the protection around them. They have usurped all the law enforcement and military power. They put incompetent loyalists in charge of those "forces" by design.
mwb970
(11,831 posts)yellow dahlia
(2,352 posts)I am doing everything I know how to do to fight back. But I keep asking what more we can do.
And I keep hoping there is a legal path or other method to get this country out of the clutches of the destroyers.
Escurumbele
(3,783 posts)about.
But let us not be fooled with the "incompetence" label. This is exactly what happened in Venezuela and what happens in every country where a dictator (wannabe in USA) takes power. In Venezuela people kept thinking that Hugo Chavez and his minions were incompetent, but they were not, they knew exactly what they were doing, Chavez, and then Maduro, were being coached by Fidel Castro who was still alive at the time, trump and his minions are being coached by Putin, same situation.
The four apartheid people, Musk, Thiel, and the other two that I don't remember their names, also know what they are doing, they also seem to be part of the team with Putin, they are not incompetent, they are following the agenda to perfection and the destruction is moving at a very rapid pace. Why the military or the intelligent agencies are not doing anything to stop them I would like to know.
If anyone read Chapter 9 of John Bolton's book "The room where it happened" you will find that Bolton was ready to remove Maduro and the regime from office, he had all the key players, the plan, etc., to move in and truly liberate Venezuela, but Putin told trump that Juan Guiado (who had won the presidency but Maduro, like he is doing now, would not remove himself from office) was weak, that Maduro was intelligent and strong, so trump turned around and told John Bolton to scrap the plans, and proceeded to repeat what Putin had told him about Guaido and Maduro. According to Olivia Troye, who worked for Mike Pence, trump is a big admirer of Nicolas Maduro, trump wants to be like Maduro.
So lets remember that evil does not equate to incompetence, we think it is incompetence because they destroy, but that IS their agenda.
yardwork
(66,536 posts)yellow dahlia
(2,352 posts)muskRAT knows exactly what he is doing. He is just hiding behind a false narrative.
nowforever
(498 posts)displaying all the characteristics of a malignant narcissist. Now the wounded narcissist is exacting revenge on anyone or anything that he perceives as a threat. So giving ultimate power to a mentally ill person is a good way to destroy the world. We need a Ceasar like moment to rectify this.
Kid Berwyn
(20,258 posts)The lowest poser, ever. So, what can a formerly robust democracy expect from a vile, vain, demented, unstable moronic traitor who smells of soiled undergarments?
flamingdem
(40,399 posts)He's a flipping moron!!!!!!!
spanone
(138,943 posts)malaise
(283,783 posts)They are the KKKK