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mcar

(44,279 posts)
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 04:33 PM Mar 12

Schumer: Democrats will block CR. Update: Maybe not?

Last edited Thu Mar 13, 2025, 07:24 PM - Edit history (1)



https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220134988



Per Meidas Touch/Bluesky:

BREAKING: Senate Democrats have the votes to block the Republican Continuing Resolution, which was loaded with poison pills. Sen. Schumer says the Democratic caucus is unified on a clean short term resolution that would keep current funding through April 11.

https://bsky.app/profile/meidastouch.com/post/3lk7fzcqoks2q
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Schumer: Democrats will block CR. Update: Maybe not? (Original Post) mcar Mar 12 OP
Thank you! ibegurpard Mar 12 #1
I will be SO happy to be proven wrong!! crimycarny Mar 12 #22
You and me both! Tansy_Gold Mar 12 #44
Yeah, assuming they follow through (sorry for the cynicism) senseandsensibility Mar 12 #51
Welp, looks like your cynicism was spot on crimycarny Mar 13 #168
Yup senseandsensibility Mar 13 #169
Also am I bob4460 Mar 12 #70
Same here MustLoveBeagles Mar 12 #83
Me too, Beagles! SheltieLover Mar 13 #146
So will I! calimary Mar 13 #143
No stake, as they are likely going to fold: Celerity Mar 13 #164
We'll see i guess ibegurpard Mar 13 #165
No sh*t! Really??? no_hypocrisy Mar 12 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author no_hypocrisy Mar 12 #3
Let's hope so newdeal2 Mar 12 #4
YES!! NOW START FRAMING THE ISSUE!! Democrats have to say they will work with the GOP and WH but OrlandoDem2 Mar 12 #5
Exactly!! wordstroken Mar 12 #35
They should convey what's wrong with the bill... returnee Mar 12 #64
They have said that already. Hopefully the mainstream media will start picking it Wiz Imp Mar 12 #93
THIS X 1000 orangecrush Mar 12 #109
Amen! ReRe Mar 13 #140
Good!! Do not bend to this administration!! The world is watching us in horror!!!!! Pisces Mar 12 #6
I'm going to start crying again. This feels like coming up for air, however briefly. Alice B. Mar 12 #7
Me too! crimycarny Mar 12 #25
Buckle up orangecrush Mar 12 #110
Just need a moment to get my stomach under control before we take off again, lol Alice B. Mar 12 #118
... orangecrush Mar 12 #119
Hope so but afraid to get my hopes up. lindysalsagal Mar 12 #8
Yes! Now er are going in the right direction! William769 Mar 12 #9
Well shall see. republianmushroom Mar 12 #10
Great news malaise Mar 12 #11
Keep it shut down as long as it takes MichMan Mar 12 #12
great news, if it happens Celerity Mar 12 #13
Giddyup! EarthFirst Mar 12 #14
so the gaslighting reports which drove so many to drag their own party's legislators was false? bigtree Mar 12 #15
Probably not. Probably it was the thousands of phone calls to their legislators that changed the narrative Nanjeanne Mar 12 #17
Yep. n/t demmiblue Mar 12 #34
I'm not one who's inclined to doubt the party first bigtree Mar 12 #37
Yes we know you aren't. I don't think anyone doubts that. Nanjeanne Mar 12 #40
it's because I have time to pay attention to what our party is doing bigtree Mar 12 #45
Don't assume people who disagree w/you don't also have time to pay attention - cause many many do. They just dont agree. Nanjeanne Mar 12 #46
that hasn't been my observation. bigtree Mar 12 #59
Well you assume wrong as I say it and am very involved. But you do you and don't spend time assigning Nanjeanne Mar 12 #60
now, you know well I didn't attribute that to you bigtree Mar 12 #66
People will stop saying that ibegurpard Mar 12 #62
They were reporting what they heard at the moment ibegurpard Mar 12 #47
I'm sure they heard from Dems bigtree Mar 12 #57
Don't forget, Democrats voted unanimously against the initial Senate reconciliation Wiz Imp Mar 12 #97
Sure ZRB Mar 12 #61
I prompted myself to put a call in to Schumer. sprinkleeninow Mar 12 #107
What narrative? N/T lapucelle Mar 12 #126
I'm finding more and more I just have to ignore social media, mcar Mar 12 #24
Wild conjecture and associated freak out appears to be more enjoyable to some. paleotn Mar 12 #84
I was one of them bob4460 Mar 12 #71
I feel ya bigtree Mar 12 #76
I sincerely hope so. But Dems must immediately start saying "Ball is in R's court now. If there's a government shutdown Nanjeanne Mar 12 #16
Oh please oh please yorkster Mar 12 #18
Finally. Unity. ancianita Mar 12 #19
Good... GiqueCee Mar 12 #20
Honestly Katcat Mar 12 #49
I think so too. Haggard Celine Mar 12 #89
Very good to hear Torchlight Mar 12 #21
Pass the crow HereForTheParty Mar 12 #23
everyone is anxious and on edge bigtree Mar 12 #50
How's it taste? Hassin Bin Sober Mar 13 #174
I had to pass it back HereForTheParty Mar 14 #176
A big THANK YOU to all you who called and emailed your Senators. Our voices make a difference . . . sometimes Nanjeanne Mar 12 #26
time to email back to say "Thank you" SleeplessinSoCal Mar 12 #36
I saw him being called... Mike Nelson Mar 12 #27
If only there wzs a liberal tv outlet to counter Dyedinthewoolliberal Mar 12 #28
We should have had a mainstream liberal outlet 25 years ago. hadEnuf Mar 13 #147
Get a spine or get out. sellitman Mar 12 #29
I think you're replying to the wrong OP mcar Mar 12 #31
Didn't see the update sellitman Sunday #178
Ummm, they did? paleotn Mar 12 #88
Didn't see the update when I posted. sellitman Sunday #177
Still, time to call Senators and thank them. nilram Mar 12 #30
They fuckin' better. Time to get on with this thing. Delay serves ONLY maga, no one else. Maru Kitteh Mar 12 #32
Take that Fetterman! SleeplessinSoCal Mar 12 #33
Yeah Polybius Mar 13 #171
this is confounding. SleeplessinSoCal Mar 13 #172
Will this include the 30-day CR as well... EarthFirst Mar 12 #38
?? That's what the Dems are calling for - a 30 day (truly) clean CR and an opportunity Wiz Imp Mar 12 #101
Outstanding. I usually don't have good Hassler Mar 12 #39
Oh wow. Ollie Garkie Mar 12 #41
Finally-Are they developing spine? kansasobama Mar 12 #42
Glad I called Markey and said block it or face primary Mr.WeRP Mar 12 #43
Gratified to see this from Schumer. Paladin Mar 12 #48
I'm right there with you... gotta hand it to Schumer!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 12 #95
This message was self-deleted by its author JustAnotherGen Mar 12 #52
I hope so JustAnotherGen Mar 12 #53
As someone in the Government COL Mustard Mar 12 #54
Thanks for this perspective mcar Mar 12 #78
GOOD. Make the asshats negotiate to STOP Muskrat/DOGE from shutting it down agency by agency AND... CousinIT Mar 12 #55
I like. bluestarone Mar 12 #56
OK, now Dems should do a massive DOG & PONY SHOW BoRaGard Mar 12 #58
THIS RIGHT HERE!! Otherwise we win the battle, but lose the war... GO CHUCK!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 12 #96
No to any CR period MichMan Mar 12 #63
Keep Calling. Keep up the press. 617Blue Mar 12 #65
They better! Scrivener7 Mar 12 #67
Thank you Democrats! bob4460 Mar 12 #68
I'd love to express my surprise at the number of Yabbuts on this post... OilemFirchen Mar 12 #69
+1 sheshe2 Mar 13 #151
Thank you very much gab13by13 Mar 12 #72
What was passed by the house was NOT a 3page 'Clean' CR but a 90 page give away of power to Trump/Musk mackdaddy Mar 12 #73
Should this come to pass, Prairie_Seagull Mar 12 #74
If that proves to be true... Think. Again. Mar 12 #75
Hold your enthusiastic horses here LonePirate Mar 12 #77
I heard the same HereForTheParty Mar 13 #155
Big mistake RJW62 Mar 12 #79
Welcome to DU! senseandsensibility Mar 12 #81
well then repukes should be NEGOTIATING with Dems Skittles Mar 13 #139
Hope so. progressoid Mar 12 #80
I came here earlier and it was high tide of screaming about how shitty "complicit" Democrats are so betsuni Mar 12 #82
How are those grownups treating you now? Hassin Bin Sober Mar 13 #173
Tantrum-screaming: they hate bad establishment Democrat mommy, eagerly assuming evil intentions, they know everything! betsuni Mar 14 #175
Okay...can those bashing Sen Schumer admit you were wrong and give the Dems some breathing room??!! PortTack Mar 12 #85
Don't hold your breath mcar Mar 12 #86
Several on this thread have already done that senseandsensibility Mar 12 #87
Breathing room meant to me calling displacedvermoter Mar 12 #94
Yes! mollie8 Mar 12 #90
I know it hasn't happened yet, so things could still change but Wiz Imp Mar 12 #91
Nope. It's more bs. Establishment Dems cave again Bobstandard Mar 12 #92
I just saw this, too. Tansy_Gold Mar 12 #98
Where's Josh Marshall's evidence of this? Wiz Imp Mar 12 #103
Other posters on Bluesky orangecrush Mar 12 #111
Zero proof obamanut2012 Mar 12 #132
ding. this / AllaN01Bear Mar 12 #99
This is the right approach BrianTheEVGuy Mar 12 #100
He posts on Threads (that does embed on DU) BumRushDaShow Mar 12 #102
Schumer MUST hold the line. If Democrats break ranks he needs to go. flashman13 Mar 12 #104
I think he will... it's our only defense against these Rethuglicon fascists!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 13 #161
Wanted to add that NPR had an interview with Sen. Chris Coons aired this morning and he had the perfect response BumRushDaShow Mar 12 #105
I'll believe it when I see it. Javaman Mar 12 #106
Hit them where it hurts most orangecrush Mar 12 #108
Clean CR? Nothing addressing DT's unilateral shutdown of parts of of our gov? pat_k Mar 12 #112
And how would that happen exactly mcar Mar 12 #113
THERE'S AN EASY WAY Jimvanhise Mar 12 #114
Easy peasy mcar Mar 12 #115
The tax cuts are not in the CR Wiz Imp Mar 12 #122
So give up and give them to April 11 and then what? Emile Mar 12 #116
What do you mean by give up? mcar Mar 12 #121
Short term resolution. Emile Mar 12 #123
And mcar Mar 12 #128
Lets hope the republicans negotiate fairly. Emile Mar 12 #130
Happy Anniversary Emile Mar 13 #148
Hey, thanks! mcar Mar 13 #149
I saw your name listed in Earls daily post Emile Mar 13 #150
The point of short term CR is to then allow Democrats a seat Wiz Imp Mar 12 #124
I understand that. We should have been at the Emile Mar 12 #125
They will if that short term CR would pass - the Republicans would basically Wiz Imp Mar 12 #127
True, we'll see how it turns out. I do hope you are right. Emile Mar 12 #129
Yet there are few on DU who are saying he and the Dems are doing nothing Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 12 #117
Thank you. Now get the team unified on everything else. Hotler Mar 12 #120
And what happens in April? Meowmee Mar 12 #131
This message was self-deleted by its author Daleuhlmann Mar 13 #133
what about Fetterman?? vapor2 Mar 13 #134
Fetterman already said he's a "no" on shutdown Tansy_Gold Mar 13 #136
None of the Dems want a shutdown. SunSeeker Mar 13 #138
Wasn't it just like (checks notes) last year that Senate Democrats were calling for the abolition of the filibuster kelly1mm Mar 13 #135
Good! Clean CR only! No GOP bullshit! SunSeeker Mar 13 #137
Much, much better. Schumer had many worried. I was. nt PufPuf23 Mar 13 #141
Did anyone watch Lawrence O'Donnell last night? ReRe Mar 13 #142
The Democrats nwduke Mar 13 #144
Called my Democratic rep today, barbtries Mar 13 #145
Thank you Senator. spanone Mar 13 #152
YESSSSSS!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 13 #153
or not Celerity Mar 13 #154
Can't believe it... I don't understand that strategy. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 13 #158
.... Celerity Mar 13 #159
Okaaaayyyy... so who's buyin this?! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 13 #160
Well, there is this from earlier today: Celerity Mar 13 #162
LOL, I "buy" what you are SAYIN... just not sure about the reasoning given at the link you posted. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 13 #170
I Called both VA Senators Today ajmstpete Mar 13 #156
Dems gonna grow a spine??? and take a fucking stand??! dsp3000 Mar 13 #157
Nope senseandsensibility Mar 13 #163
Ugh. mcar Mar 13 #166
Guess he lied to us alarimer Mar 13 #167

crimycarny

(1,744 posts)
22. I will be SO happy to be proven wrong!!
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 04:50 PM
Mar 12

I was one of those "why are Dems caving?" complainers. I will be so, so, SO happy to be proven wrong!!!!

senseandsensibility

(21,407 posts)
51. Yeah, assuming they follow through (sorry for the cynicism)
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 05:17 PM
Mar 12

I am happy to be proven wrong too. Well, I didn't really predict anything, but I wasn't happy with what I was reading on bluesky and other places.
Maybe the phone calls helped!

ibegurpard

(17,024 posts)
165. We'll see i guess
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 06:17 PM
Mar 13

Keep calling them and if they cave be ready to primary every one that did

Response to mcar (Original post)

OrlandoDem2

(2,633 posts)
5. YES!! NOW START FRAMING THE ISSUE!! Democrats have to say they will work with the GOP and WH but
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 04:37 PM
Mar 12

This bill is bad for America!!

No more breaks for billionaires! No more unelected wealthy bureaucrats like Musk!

Don’t teach. Don’t explain. Just repeat a few key ideas. And tell Americans what you stand for!

returnee

(461 posts)
64. They should convey what's wrong with the bill...
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 05:31 PM
Mar 12

…with the angry affect it deserves, because it’s total shit for the people! Give us a bill that’s good for America or go pound sand!

Wiz Imp

(4,392 posts)
93. They have said that already. Hopefully the mainstream media will start picking it
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 06:39 PM
Mar 12

up and broadcasting it. They do need to keep repeating it and get louder with it because, unfortunately, they need the media to help them get their message out to lower information voters.

crimycarny

(1,744 posts)
25. Me too!
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 04:52 PM
Mar 12

I don't want to jinx it by being hopeful, but if the Dems truly stand strong and don't cave it will be the first ray of hope I've had in a while.

MichMan

(14,590 posts)
12. Keep it shut down as long as it takes
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 04:42 PM
Mar 12

Until the midterms if need be or until Musk resigns and all the DOGE cuts are restored.

EarthFirst

(3,560 posts)
14. Giddyup!
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 04:43 PM
Mar 12

This dumpster fire belongs to the GOP

Let them squirm it out with their already disgruntled constituents…

bigtree

(91,703 posts)
15. so the gaslighting reports which drove so many to drag their own party's legislators was false?
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 04:44 PM
Mar 12

...go figure.

Nanjeanne

(6,006 posts)
17. Probably not. Probably it was the thousands of phone calls to their legislators that changed the narrative
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 04:47 PM
Mar 12

Yup - that's much more like it!

bigtree

(91,703 posts)
37. I'm not one who's inclined to doubt the party first
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 05:01 PM
Mar 12

...and if I was looking at the odds, making a bet, I would have taken heed of the vote in the House on the same bill which only got ONE Democratic vote out of 214.

Or, looked at the House budget reconciliation bill which we saw a unanimous Dem minority party vote against the republican majority.

Or, maybe listened to what the Dem leaders were saying.

Chuck Schumer @SenSchumer Mar 6
Whatever Trump and Republicans in Congress say

Here are the facts—The GOP budget goals mean they’re going to slash Medicaid or Medicare.

And all to give tax cuts to their billionaires’ club.

Democrats will never stop fighting for Medicaid and Medicare.

bigtree

(91,703 posts)
45. it's because I have time to pay attention to what our party is doing
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 05:12 PM
Mar 12

...although, even when I was working 6 days a week, I still cheated sleep getting the facts for myself and sharing them out.

I have good reason to have faith in people who've already fought republicans in often years long elections and won, many repeatedly. That's a no-brainer for me.

I do still wonder, though, what those folks at The Hill who gaslighted everyone here this morning is thinking up for their next Dem doubting demagoguery?

Nanjeanne

(6,006 posts)
46. Don't assume people who disagree w/you don't also have time to pay attention - cause many many do. They just dont agree.
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 05:13 PM
Mar 12

bigtree

(91,703 posts)
59. that hasn't been my observation.
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 05:26 PM
Mar 12

...and I seriously doubt people who say things like 'Dems are weak' or 'Dems aren't doing anything' or 'Dems will fold' or 'Dems don't know how to fight' are paying more attention to the party and our legislators than they are the inside of their own fearful minds.

I just do.

Can't prove any of that by me. People do try, though.

Nanjeanne

(6,006 posts)
60. Well you assume wrong as I say it and am very involved. But you do you and don't spend time assigning
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 05:29 PM
Mar 12

descriptors to people you don’t know. Just do yourself.

bigtree

(91,703 posts)
66. now, you know well I didn't attribute that to you
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 05:32 PM
Mar 12

...or I would directly say so.

But I've had more replies from more folks, than just this one cordial converstion with you.

I'm sorry if I offended you, but that's been my experience. Not just looking at general responses, but assertions made that are just provably false.

That's what I'm talking about, facts, not your very valuable opinions which may disagree with my own, but facts to support assertions.

ibegurpard

(17,024 posts)
62. People will stop saying that
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 05:31 PM
Mar 12

When they start seeing a lot more of this instead of lectures from leadership about too many phone calls and how they can't do anything because they're in the minority. Yeah we know. Use all the tools you can then be loud about it whip all your members to vote against the condemnation of the one member who had an effective protest against the Trump propaganda show and organize a united one next time.
Doing the everyday legislative work isn't enough if you can't find ways to let people know about it.

ibegurpard

(17,024 posts)
47. They were reporting what they heard at the moment
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 05:14 PM
Mar 12

And here is their latest report which is probably due at least in part to senators being contacted en masse by people who want them to stand up and not knuckle under instead of just trusting them.
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5191508-senate-democrats-vote-government-funding-30-day-cr/

bigtree

(91,703 posts)
57. I'm sure they heard from Dems
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 05:22 PM
Mar 12

...but believing The Hill is quite another thing that I'd caution against any day of the week when it comes to Democrats.

They didn't have shit to run with on that report and buried the lede which said a decision hadn't been made.

There was a caucus meeting and a decision was made.

None of that occurred in the minds of Hill editors who gaslighted people here today. They just wanted the clickbait which was win-win for them.

Wiz Imp

(4,392 posts)
97. Don't forget, Democrats voted unanimously against the initial Senate reconciliation
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 06:54 PM
Mar 12

bill as well. Before the vote last night, many thought that if Democrats in the House were united and got few defections, then the Senate was fairly likely to stand strong and vote against it as well. A bunch of Hose Democrats voting for it would have made it harder for Senate Dems to justify voting against it. So for all the heat Jeffries has taken here recently, he deserves big kudos for holding his caucus together on this (with only 1 defection which ended up not making a difference). That said, the Phone Calls certainly couldn't have hurt and may have helped allay the concerns of a few who were the most likely to be wavering.

sprinkleeninow

(20,720 posts)
107. I prompted myself to put a call in to Schumer.
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 07:26 PM
Mar 12

Which I did. His NY office. 2 actually to complete my stance. Regarding SS benefits and that all Dems should stand together and vote no on the CR. No caving!

mcar

(44,279 posts)
24. I'm finding more and more I just have to ignore social media,
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 04:51 PM
Mar 12

keep breathing, and wait till something actual gets reported.

paleotn

(20,146 posts)
84. Wild conjecture and associated freak out appears to be more enjoyable to some.
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 06:15 PM
Mar 12

I don't get it either.

bigtree

(91,703 posts)
76. I feel ya
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 05:48 PM
Mar 12

...it's hard to wade through the deliberate gaslighting.

There's not one person in the Dem leadership in either House who I don't believe is fully engaged in this fight to win everywhere they're able, notwithstanding the expectations for them to do more outside of that purely legislative effort.

Nanjeanne

(6,006 posts)
16. I sincerely hope so. But Dems must immediately start saying "Ball is in R's court now. If there's a government shutdown
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 04:46 PM
Mar 12

it is the Republican's fault. Dems are willing to negotiate with Rs to make the bill better."

They need to get out in front of this . . . and put the right people out there for messaging. But keep repeating "if there is a shutdown it is the Republican's fault for not allowing Dems to negotiate on this bill."

ancianita

(40,168 posts)
19. Finally. Unity.
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 04:48 PM
Mar 12

While the Muskovite's 60+ DOGE employees continue their insurgency fuckups.

GiqueCee

(1,988 posts)
20. Good...
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 04:49 PM
Mar 12

... and may Republican cojones adorn trailer hitches across the country, but especially Pee Wee Johnson's, if he has any.

Katcat

(448 posts)
49. Honestly
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 05:16 PM
Mar 12

I think Mike Johnson is gay. There’s nothing wrong with it but hiding it has to be nerve wracking. And potentially blackmail able.

Haggard Celine

(17,116 posts)
89. I think so too.
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 06:25 PM
Mar 12

I thought it from the first time I saw him. But sometimes my radar isn't accurate.

Torchlight

(4,420 posts)
21. Very good to hear
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 04:49 PM
Mar 12

and a great time to remind the electorate of what McConnell had told us in not too recent past: "What we did learn is this -- it's a hostage that's worth ransoming"

bigtree

(91,703 posts)
50. everyone is anxious and on edge
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 05:16 PM
Mar 12

...that's not anyone here's fault.

After losing so much, it's that much easier to believe in failure. I do think we should expect the vast majority of our elected ones want to win just as much as we do.

It's their very own relevance in our democracy at stake in this fight, Dems even more than republicans at this point.

I'm basically as fucking relieved as anyone, though.

HereForTheParty

(769 posts)
176. I had to pass it back
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 08:44 AM
Mar 14

I was sure Schumer would cave. He said he wasn't. I asked for crow. Now he says he will cave. Whiplash.

Nanjeanne

(6,006 posts)
26. A big THANK YOU to all you who called and emailed your Senators. Our voices make a difference . . . sometimes
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 04:52 PM
Mar 12

Mike Nelson

(10,515 posts)
27. I saw him being called...
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 04:53 PM
Mar 12

... "a Palestinian" by Crooked Donald at his event today. While there is nothing wrong with being a Palestinian, Sen Schumer is not... I thought, well, this could mean something.

Dyedinthewoolliberal

(16,023 posts)
28. If only there wzs a liberal tv outlet to counter
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 04:54 PM
Mar 12

The wave of non stop hysterical blaming and shaming that will emanate from Faux.

hadEnuf

(3,058 posts)
147. We should have had a mainstream liberal outlet 25 years ago.
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 12:42 PM
Mar 13

But even now one would help greatly. The right dominates the media.

Maru Kitteh

(29,842 posts)
32. They fuckin' better. Time to get on with this thing. Delay serves ONLY maga, no one else.
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 04:56 PM
Mar 12

Republicans MUST be made to own this government, immediately. It’s the only hope this country has left.


SleeplessinSoCal

(9,993 posts)
172. this is confounding.
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 11:22 PM
Mar 13

I don't want a shutdown to further erode Social Security. We would lose our home without SS. But the Republicans destruction derby is a disaster for all but the wealthy.

Wiz Imp

(4,392 posts)
101. ?? That's what the Dems are calling for - a 30 day (truly) clean CR and an opportunity
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 07:02 PM
Mar 12

to negotiate the budget for the remainder of the fiscal year (which they were completely shut out of on this current CR in question)

Hassler

(4,160 posts)
39. Outstanding. I usually don't have good
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 05:02 PM
Mar 12

Things to say about schmucky Chucky, but gotta give him credit today.

Mr.WeRP

(753 posts)
43. Glad I called Markey and said block it or face primary
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 05:08 PM
Mar 12

When I heard he would support it, I flipped. There is no point in keeping the government open if it is only going to harm people anyways, especially those who would be harmed by a shutdown. We need Dems to fight this Admin tooth and nail

Paladin

(29,836 posts)
48. Gratified to see this from Schumer.
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 05:15 PM
Mar 12

And I say that as someone who has posted some critical comments about the Senator (and the rest of Democratic leadership), in recent days.

Hope to hell there's some meaningful follow-through on this.

Response to mcar (Original post)

COL Mustard

(7,284 posts)
54. As someone in the Government
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 05:19 PM
Mar 12

I hate to see a shutdown, however brief. They are so disruptive and stressful for everyone. But I'd hate to see this bill get through Congress as I understand it's written. It seems like there are a number of poison pills in it like cutting DC's budget by $1B with 6 months to go in the FY.

Also I heard Thune earlier today talking about how this is all the Democrats' fault. What the Actual F??? R's control the House, the Senate AND the White House so no farkin' way is this anyone's fault but theirs. I try not to actually hate anyone but damn they make it hard.

CousinIT

(11,157 posts)
55. GOOD. Make the asshats negotiate to STOP Muskrat/DOGE from shutting it down agency by agency AND...
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 05:20 PM
Mar 12

.....looting and destroying OUR healthcare, retirement, and VA benefits.

Because MAGAGOP and "DOGE" are shutting it down anyway. And this shit is ALL on them.

BoRaGard

(4,580 posts)
58. OK, now Dems should do a massive DOG & PONY SHOW
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 05:23 PM
Mar 12

To dramatically bring home what we are doing, why we are doing it, and why (no matter how many lies they tell) republicons are fully responsible for this big stinking mess.

MichMan

(14,590 posts)
63. No to any CR period
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 05:31 PM
Mar 12

Until all the DOGE cuts are reversed, DOGE disbanded and Musk resigns.

Force the Republicans to come up with a regular budget using reconciliation. That way they don't need the Democrats to lift a finger to pass anything.

OilemFirchen

(7,229 posts)
69. I'd love to express my surprise at the number of Yabbuts on this post...
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 05:36 PM
Mar 12

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but I'm not able to.

I am a very tiny bit amused by the apologists for The Hill, but not enough to elicit a chuckle.

All in all, a predictable day at Ye Olde Democratic Underground, Version Ermigod.

mackdaddy

(1,734 posts)
73. What was passed by the house was NOT a 3page 'Clean' CR but a 90 page give away of power to Trump/Musk
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 05:39 PM
Mar 12

Apparently it has all kinds of goodies that let's Trump not follow the congressional allocations and prevents congress from being able to stop trump's emergency powers declaration.

Prairie_Seagull

(4,012 posts)
74. Should this come to pass,
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 05:41 PM
Mar 12

the fighting that follows should be a big sign who the democrats will likely be going forward.

Fingers crossed and praying to Scooby DOOO.

IMO

Think. Again.

(22,156 posts)
75. If that proves to be true...
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 05:46 PM
Mar 12

...it will be the first time since a fascist government took over the U.S. that mr. schumer has gathered our Dem Senators in unified resistance to protect our Democracy.

I certainly hope it will be the belated Senate opposition to fascism mr. schumer seems to be saying it will be.

LonePirate

(14,062 posts)
77. Hold your enthusiastic horses here
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 06:03 PM
Mar 12

I read that Dems want a vote on Sen. Patty Murray’s CR - a vote that will ultimately fail. Once it does, supposedly Dems will be able to vote for the House CR because Dems are just wanting a vote on a different CR.

HereForTheParty

(769 posts)
155. I heard the same
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 02:56 PM
Mar 13

If they tried this BS I think that would be worse than just voting for the original CR.

RJW62

(30 posts)
79. Big mistake
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 06:05 PM
Mar 12

I think Senate Dems are playing with fire here. Trump and Musk want a government shutdown, and this is going to help tank the economy even faster.

Skittles

(162,725 posts)
139. well then repukes should be NEGOTIATING with Dems
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 04:17 AM
Mar 13

otherwise, FUCK REPUKES, THEY OWN IT

betsuni

(27,660 posts)
82. I came here earlier and it was high tide of screaming about how shitty "complicit" Democrats are so
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 06:08 PM
Mar 12

thought, I'll wait till the grown-ups come and calm down the children and went back to bed.

betsuni

(27,660 posts)
175. Tantrum-screaming: they hate bad establishment Democrat mommy, eagerly assuming evil intentions, they know everything!
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 12:45 AM
Mar 14

It's politics. I don't know what's going on and will listen to the grown-ups before making up my mind. What a radical idea.

PortTack

(35,426 posts)
85. Okay...can those bashing Sen Schumer admit you were wrong and give the Dems some breathing room??!!
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 06:17 PM
Mar 12

displacedvermoter

(3,618 posts)
94. Breathing room meant to me calling
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 06:39 PM
Mar 12

our Democratic Senators and telling them we have their backs when they take this risky move. I hope it worked, and I hope they play their cards right. They have the power right now.

mollie8

(208 posts)
90. Yes!
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 06:31 PM
Mar 12

Way to go! We're not blocking government, just demanding a clean CR. Take out the poison stuff! Shout it to the rooftops so that everyone will know what's really happening.

Wiz Imp

(4,392 posts)
91. I know it hasn't happened yet, so things could still change but
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 06:31 PM
Mar 12

this is what I expected all along. I've never been happier to be right.

Bobstandard

(1,848 posts)
92. Nope. It's more bs. Establishment Dems cave again
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 06:33 PM
Mar 12

Josh Marshall points out the infuriating truth here. https://bsky.app/profile/joshtpm.bsky.social/post/3lk7lxpk6y22w]
3/The point of this to temporarily confuse the issue so that Senate Ds can say they vote for their version while allowing the GOP version to pass. The critical point is that it's handing the GOP the 60 vote threshold for nothing.

BumRushDaShow

(149,396 posts)
102. He posts on Threads (that does embed on DU)
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 07:07 PM
Mar 12

Post by @senschumer
View on Threads




senschumer
2h
Funding the government should be a bipartisan effort.But Republicans chose a partisan path, drafting their Continuing Resolution without any input from Congressional Democrats.Because of that, Republicans do not have the votes in the Senate to pass the House CR.Our caucus is unified on a clean 30-day CR that will keep the government open and give Congress time to negotiate bipartisan legislation that can pass. We should vote on that.

flashman13

(1,081 posts)
104. Schumer MUST hold the line. If Democrats break ranks he needs to go.
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 07:10 PM
Mar 12

That includes you Fetterman.

BumRushDaShow

(149,396 posts)
105. Wanted to add that NPR had an interview with Sen. Chris Coons aired this morning and he had the perfect response
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 07:15 PM
Mar 12
Why Sen. Chris Coons is voting "no" on spending bill that would stop a government shutdown

March 12, 2025 4:25 AM ET

By Mansee Khurana

(snip)

Martin: Republicans, starting with Trump, have made it clear they're going to blame the Democrats for shutting down the government if that happens. What are the arguments for voting against it?

Senator Coons: President Trump and Elon Musk are already shutting down the government for the time he's been president now just over 50 days. They have torn through agency after agency. A government shutdown is already underway and it's being done piecemeal, without planning, without any kindness or decency to folks who've served as veterans and helped keep our nation safe and help run our Social Security agency. So first, the argument for not giving President Trump and Elon Musk more power to do more bad, to move money around at will, to shut down more organizations and to give it our vote.

(snip)



Don't let the media "define" us and what is going on!

pat_k

(11,055 posts)
112. Clean CR? Nothing addressing DT's unilateral shutdown of parts of of our gov?
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 09:24 PM
Mar 12

It doesn't matter what's in the CR. Trump's executive branch will shut down what he doesn't like and do whatever the fuck he wants to do. As far as I'm concerned, the only thing that shouldn't be blocked is a CR with a "sense of the Senate" statement calling out the Executive Branch's lawlessness and making it clear that unless there is a reversal the only vote any member of the House or Senate who cares about restoring the constitutional order will be casting is "Present."

I dread the fallout of a shut down, but the pretense that our government can continue with this level of lawlessness must somehow end.

Jimvanhise

(400 posts)
114. THERE'S AN EASY WAY
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 09:27 PM
Mar 12

Strip out the tax cuts for the morbidly rich (who already have more money than they could spend if they live 200 years) and everything will balance. 8 years ago Walt Disney's daughter (who is very rich) said that they didn't need a tax cut because they already have lots of money.

Wiz Imp

(4,392 posts)
122. The tax cuts are not in the CR
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 10:19 PM
Mar 12

They are in the FY 26 budget which is still be worked on by Republicans and won't likely be voted on for at least another month.

Wiz Imp

(4,392 posts)
124. The point of short term CR is to then allow Democrats a seat
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 10:22 PM
Mar 12

at the table to negotiate a more palatable CR to last through the end of the fiscal year.

Emile

(33,486 posts)
125. I understand that. We should have been at the
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 10:26 PM
Mar 12

negotiation table all along. By giving them more time now, will this be a guarantee they will negotiate in good faith?

Wiz Imp

(4,392 posts)
127. They will if that short term CR would pass - the Republicans would basically
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 10:45 PM
Mar 12

be agreeing to that by providing the votes to pass. If the Republicans don't pass it, then there is a shutdown. So the Democrats are basically setting up a situation of either you allow us in on the negotiations for a better CR in the next 30 days or we shut down the government. Worst case scenario is they renege on the negotiations, but even if they did that, the Dems still get clean CR for an extra month without all the extra bad things the Republicans have tried to add to it. After 30 days, rinse and repeat.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(120,535 posts)
117. Yet there are few on DU who are saying he and the Dems are doing nothing
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 09:40 PM
Mar 12

Maybe I need to add to my ignore list.

Meowmee

(7,948 posts)
131. And what happens in April?
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 10:54 PM
Mar 12

I emailed my senators to vote no on cloture, and the R funding bill. What about that? Also someone here posted that R are relinquishing the ability to vote to stop tariffs according to a nyt article can D do anything about that?

This is very important and would help stop orange psycho from trashing the economy.


https://www.democraticunderground.com/1016399569

Response to mcar (Original post)

SunSeeker

(55,262 posts)
138. None of the Dems want a shutdown.
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 02:48 AM
Mar 13

But that doesn't mean they'll be blackmailed into voting for a Continuing Resolution full of poison pills! If the Republicans don't want a shutdown, pass a CLEAN CR. Fetterman should get with the program.

kelly1mm

(5,667 posts)
135. Wasn't it just like (checks notes) last year that Senate Democrats were calling for the abolition of the filibuster
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 01:28 AM
Mar 13

as it was an 'anti-democratic relic of Jim Crow'?

Wasn't the general consensus here on DU the same? That is should be gotten rid of?

ReRe

(11,416 posts)
142. Did anyone watch Lawrence O'Donnell last night?
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 05:22 AM
Mar 13

Could the reason for Chuck Schumer's "about face" be what Lawrence lead his show with last night?

In one of Trump's Oval Office coffee table pressers yesterday, Donald Trump said "Schumer is Palestinian. He's not Jewish anymore."

And not one journalist present stopped him in his tracks & questioned him about such an absurd statement. Not one.



Edit: to correct spelling.

nwduke

(394 posts)
144. The Democrats
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 09:44 AM
Mar 13

Need to thoroughly and publicly explain what the poison pills are! You must also bring it down to a 3rd grade level explanation so that the MAGAt cultists can understand! The majority of these idiots are the ones who will lose out on President Musks edicts!

barbtries

(30,262 posts)
145. Called my Democratic rep today,
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 10:14 AM
Mar 13

again.
But what I told the person (an actual human, which never, ever happens with tillis or budd) today is that Rep Foushee should NEVER vote with republicans. Let them dig their own grave.

Celerity

(48,764 posts)
162. Well, there is this from earlier today:
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 06:09 PM
Mar 13
Senate Democrats eye plan that would allow vote on GOP funding bill and avoid shutdown

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220133962

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,993 posts)
170. LOL, I "buy" what you are SAYIN... just not sure about the reasoning given at the link you posted.
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 09:37 PM
Mar 13

ajmstpete

(28 posts)
156. I Called both VA Senators Today
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 04:15 PM
Mar 13

I called Senator Kaine and Warner’s offices today @ (202) 224-3121 & spoke to a staff member for both. Asked them both to vote against cloture and the spending bill. Can’t believe that I am hoping for a government shutdown, but we cannot carry on like this until September.

alarimer

(17,031 posts)
167. Guess he lied to us
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 07:24 PM
Mar 13

Allowing these cowards to vote for cloture means they can vote against the actual bill, which will pass without them. Then they can shrug and say "we tried."

Well, no, you spineless weasels, you didn't.

All these people need to be primaried. We need to start building a new party of people with actual guts.

We are screwed.

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