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KentuckyWoman

(6,921 posts)
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 05:23 PM Monday

Day 1. Stop asylum. Day 2 - attack citizenship.

In 2018 he tried to denaturalize and deport someone I personally know. A 71 yr old man born in Canada and adopted by an American family. Naturalized at the age of 4. The denaturalization was based on some small bit of info missing in the adoption docs from the 1949.

DOJ in 2017 created "Second Look" to find people who were naturalized with false information and some pencil pusher somewhere tried to justify the $350M for the program by tagging that guy. ACLU stepped in for him and scores of others and took it all the way to SCOTUS - who decided the issues had to be purposeful lies or intentional omissions.

SCOTUS won't stop him this time out and they are obviously motivated to grift as much as possible off immigration.



https://immigrationforum.org/article/trumps-first-100-days-potential-immigration-actions/

VII. Attacking Citizenship
Trump has reiterated his promise, most recently during a sit-down interview with NBC News, to take immediate action to end birthright citizenship, a constitutional right enshrined in the 14th Amendment that grants citizenship to any child born on U.S. soil, regardless of their parent’s immigration status. Ending birthright citizenship would fundamentally alter the fabric of U.S. immigration policy by creating a population of stateless individuals born in the U.S. without citizenship, increasing rather than reducing the undocumented population.

Although executive orders cannot override constitutional provisions, Trump has indicated that he could issue an executive order on Day 1 of his second term aimed at reinterpreting the amendment to deny citizenship to children born in the U.S. whose parents are undocumented or noncitizens, finding that such noncitizens are not “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States. The Supreme Court has interpreted the language of the 14th Amendment to include nearly all individuals born in the U.S., excluding only specific groups such as children of foreign diplomats.

Trump has contended that the “subject to the jurisdiction” language is intended to exclude undocumented immigrants, a view not only that existing legal precedent contradicts but also that could limit the applicability of other laws to the undocumented population. This unusual and ahistorical reading of the amendment would face immediate legal challenges. Still, Trump has expressed confidence that the Supreme Court would reject precedent and rule in his administration’s favor. Trump may take additional executive actions to prevent U.S.-born children of noncitizens from receiving birth certificates, Social Security numbers, or other proof of citizenship, creating new barriers. Such steps could lead states to limit access to state-issued documentation such as birth certificates, although such actions likely would face legal challenges.

A second Trump administration may undertake other kinds of attacks on citizenship. Trump is expected to revitalize denaturalization efforts, targeting naturalized citizens for deportation if they are found to have committed fraud during their naturalization process or engaged in criminal activity after becoming U.S. citizens. Denaturalization was ramped up during Trump’s first term under “Operation Janus,” a wide-ranging effort to identify individuals who had obtained citizenship “improperly,” including individuals with minor errors or misrepresentations on immigration paperwork. These efforts marked a significant break from past practice in which only the most egregious and intentional misrepresentation could lead to denaturalization.
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Day 1. Stop asylum. Day 2 - attack citizenship. (Original Post) KentuckyWoman Monday OP
please make that apply to musk!!!!!! AllaN01Bear Monday #1
Huge implications for Black Americans JustAnotherGen Monday #2
The south during Jim Crow KentuckyWoman Monday #3
Me Aunt De in Alabama JustAnotherGen Monday #4

JustAnotherGen

(34,065 posts)
2. Huge implications for Black Americans
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 05:53 PM
Monday

Huge. The 13th, 14th, and 15th are what assigned our ancestors Humanity. Denaturalization will only be a start. Mark me on that.

KentuckyWoman

(6,921 posts)
3. The south during Jim Crow
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 06:15 PM
Monday

I remember Atlanta Mayor Shirley Franklin very eloquently laying out the case for the older black population of Georgia when it came to voter ID laws. Her own mother would lose voting rights because counties either made nearly impossible, or refused entirely, to issue birth certificates for blacks. Even in the 1980s there were still several Georgia counties that made it extremely difficult to obtain a birth certificate for black children born outside of hospitals.

I've not educated on what it was like in other southern states, but I would guess not much different.

JustAnotherGen

(34,065 posts)
4. Me Aunt De in Alabama
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 07:43 PM
Monday

In 2017. Out of 10 ten kids over 20 years -

Only my grand mama's last two were born in a hospital - twins at the age of 44. She herself was a midwife as a side gig.

They knew damn well who Auntie De is - they just wanted to fuck with her . . . In her 90's now - but the evil still exists

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