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WhiskeyGrinder

(24,272 posts)
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 10:10 PM Jan 15

Sheriff's Deputies Handcuff Girl, 11, After Mistaking Her for Suspect

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/15/nyregion/syracuse-police-girl-misidentified-handcuffed.html

The Onondaga County Sheriff’s Office in New York said on Tuesday that it would change its policy regarding detained children after a video shared widely online showed deputies handcuffing an 11-year-old girl the day before.

The girl was detained by deputies in Syracuse, N.Y., who were looking for a similarly dressed person who was wanted in connection with the theft of a car less than an hour before, the sheriff’s office said.

The 11-year-old girl, who has not been publicly identified, was found six blocks from the scene of the theft, according to the authorities. The girl was handcuffed for seven minutes, according to a timeline of the episode released by the sheriff’s office, and was then released when the deputies realized she was not the person they were looking for.

Like the 11-year-old, the suspect is Black, according to the authorities. The suspect has not been caught or identified.
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Sheriff's Deputies Handcuff Girl, 11, After Mistaking Her for Suspect (Original Post) WhiskeyGrinder Jan 15 OP
Kick dalton99a Jan 15 #1
"Any one will do?" -- Rubin Carter. H2O Man Jan 15 #4
White supremacy makes it up as it goes. Solly Mack Jan 15 #7
The curious thing H2O Man Jan 15 #8
I lost it when the poor girl started crying. NH Ethylene Jan 16 #26
They were looking for a black female, they found a black female. Lazy, stupid, racist cops. patphil Jan 15 #2
... Solly Mack Jan 15 #3
Thank you. H2O Man Jan 15 #5
They also think pain doesn't hurt black people like whites. Such bullshit. ZonkerHarris Jan 16 #14
Before I clicked I knew it would be a black girl. Celerity Jan 15 #6
Many yrs ago when I was 20 yrs old womanofthehills Jan 15 #9
Corrected title: "The Slave Patrol Handcuffs 11-Year-Old Girl After Mistaking Her for Suspect" C0RI0LANUS Jan 16 #10
"You guys are twins" says racist cop. oasis Jan 16 #11
That made me cringe too questionseverything Jan 16 #22
might have been handled better stopdiggin Jan 16 #12
LOL. And your handle is "stopdigging"?! Solomon Jan 16 #16
people that are being detained stopdiggin Jan 16 #20
People being questioned should not be in cuffs questionseverything Jan 16 #23
so, your are asserting that cuffing a suspect is NOT standard? stopdiggin Jan 16 #25
They are racist POS obamanut2012 Jan 16 #18
just these two? or are you applying that to all cops? stopdiggin Jan 16 #21
Racist and pussys questionseverything Jan 16 #24
I agree. Other than the cuffs put on a child, I'm not sure what they could have done differently. NH Ethylene Jan 16 #27
thanks. not particularly happy with the cuffs either ... stopdiggin Jan 16 #28
Heartbreaking orangecrush Jan 16 #13
Of course she is black malaise Jan 16 #15
I knew the child would be black obamanut2012 Jan 16 #17
Knew she was black. Cops can't tell one from another. All they hear is Black. Fla Dem Jan 16 #19

H2O Man

(76,071 posts)
4. "Any one will do?" -- Rubin Carter.
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 11:12 PM
Jan 15

I remember when my friend Rubin was arrested by Canadian police. They were looking for a 19-year old black man. Rubin was 59 at the time. This was back in 1996.

H2O Man

(76,071 posts)
8. The curious thing
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 11:26 PM
Jan 15

was that those officers had no idea what they had actually done. Not a clue. Proof of the Truth of the old quote that ignorance is the mother of all cruelty.

NH Ethylene

(31,025 posts)
26. I lost it when the poor girl started crying.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 08:01 PM
Jan 16

I do understand why they would detain her until they confirmed if it was her or not if the description included a pink coat, etc. But putting handcuffs on a child who is not violently acting out is just wrong.

Solly Mack

(93,589 posts)
3. ...
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 11:11 PM
Jan 15
Study: Cops Tend to See Black Kids as Less Innocent Than White Kids


Asked to identify the age of a young boy that committed a felony, participants in a study routinely overestimated the age of black children far more than they did white kids. Worse: Cops did it, too.

The study, published in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, aimed at figuring out the extent to which black children were likely to be treated differently than their white peers solely based on race. More specifically, the authors wanted to figure out the extent to which black kids were dehumanized.



Adultification of Black children negatively impacts their health


Adultification is the term used to define how Black children are viewed as older than they are. Systemic racism has forced Black children into social, emotional, and physical adult roles before they are adults, contributing to adultification. Pediatric and family health care providers must be knowledgable of the harms of adultification bias and that the factor of intersectionality, for example, children who are Black and female, or Black with a disability, enhances bias. Recognition of adultification by health care providers may improve the health and wellness of Black children.

H2O Man

(76,071 posts)
5. Thank you.
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 11:14 PM
Jan 15

Please see my above post. My friend Rubin, who moved to Canada after serving 20 years for a crime he did not commit, was arrested by police looking for a 19-year old suspect. No one deserves that, of course. But it was really upsetting for Rubin.

womanofthehills

(9,449 posts)
9. Many yrs ago when I was 20 yrs old
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 11:39 PM
Jan 15

walking from a friends house in early morning in Pt Pleasant NJ - a policeman made me get in his police car because he said I resembled a person they were looking for. He drove around and after about 5 minutes the description of the girl came on the radio and it was the total opposite of me. So - he asked me where I was going and dropped me off.

This poor little girl - I hope she gets a good settlement!

stopdiggin

(13,252 posts)
12. might have been handled better
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 12:52 AM
Jan 16

Particularly in relation to parental notification - (although there are probably teens that do not want a parent notified - and perhaps with solid justification - which could tend to lead into tricky territory). In this case - almost certainly should have happened.

But - - Times article also makes it clear that the stop was not entirely without reason or justification ..

The girl is wearing a very similar outfit to the one worn by the suspect in the car theft, according to a photo of the suspect released by the sheriff’s office: a puffy pink winter jacket, dark patterned pants, white shoes and a pink bag.

The office said the girl was released after the deputies documented differences between her and the suspect, including the pattern of their pants, subtle differences in their pink jackets, the length of their hair and differences in their complexion.

Let's not assume that these cops are automatically racist POS ?

Solomon

(12,500 posts)
16. LOL. And your handle is "stopdigging"?!
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 07:35 AM
Jan 16

Explain the handcuffs. Oh never mind. Not interested in hearing that one.

stopdiggin

(13,252 posts)
20. people that are being detained
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 12:25 PM
Jan 16

are routinely placed in cuffs. I think (if you would care to investigate) you would find this fairly standard procedure. (and perhaps recommended, as per training? although I can't strictly vouch for that. and probably depends on the force)

questionseverything

(10,388 posts)
23. People being questioned should not be in cuffs
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 07:08 PM
Jan 16

Only arrested people need to be cuffed

I wouldn’t of had a problem with them questioning her but they didn’t have the evidence to arrest so she shouldn’t of been cuffed

I mean wtf were the cops scared 3 eleven year olds were going to do….

stopdiggin

(13,252 posts)
25. so, your are asserting that cuffing a suspect is NOT standard?
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 07:33 PM
Jan 16

or, just not the way that you and I would wish things to be ?

Answer to final question: Leg it? In opposite directions? Thereby shortening investigation considerably?

stopdiggin

(13,252 posts)
21. just these two? or are you applying that to all cops?
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 12:33 PM
Jan 16

any event - that's not what I am seeing here. There certainly seems to be adequate reason for at least an initial stop. Then - they made an effort to further verify clothing and description ... (which lead to elimination and release) Would appear to be decent police work?

questionseverything

(10,388 posts)
24. Racist and pussys
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 07:11 PM
Jan 16

The idea they couldn’t check the 11 year olds story w/o her in cuffs makes me embarrassed for them

NH Ethylene

(31,025 posts)
27. I agree. Other than the cuffs put on a child, I'm not sure what they could have done differently.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 08:08 PM
Jan 16

They were clearly uncomfortable with the situation, and seemed to expect early on that it would turn out not to be that girl who had stolen the car.

stopdiggin

(13,252 posts)
28. thanks. not particularly happy with the cuffs either ...
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 08:38 PM
Jan 16

But then - who is really happy about a stop on an 11 year old?

On the other hand - description reads out, "Black girl with pink jacket .. " That's not racism, that's a description of the suspect! Let's not reach for the easiest and most simplistic ...

obamanut2012

(28,104 posts)
17. I knew the child would be black
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 08:23 AM
Jan 16

There is a history of preteen black girls being treated like this by cops.

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