Fareed Zakaria's "My Take" yesterday.

[LAS14]

Did anyone see this? It was basically a comparison between New York state and Florida, and New York didn't come out well. It was almost all statistics, and we know that with statistics there's always another take, so to speak. I've looked for comments about this but haven't found any. I'd love to hear what James Carville or Jonathan Capehart or Pete Buttigieg had to say about it.

Do any of you have a rebuttal?

[cadoman]

1. NY is not gonna fare well in many comparisons during the dead of winter

Most people just ain't feeling it compared w/the idea of a sunny beach.

[Arazi]

2. A link to Zakaria's segment on CNN

https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/05/politics/video/gps0105-progressive-government-in-crisis

[Henry203]

3. Statistics mean nothing

How is he ranking freedom and the quality of Universities.

[LAS14]

7. Yes, that's the kind of rebuttal I'm looking for. Did you see the TV segment? nt

[maxrandb]

4. It's Reich Wing claptrap and way too lazy journalism for Mr. Zakaria

Which means either he's lazy, or has an agenda.

This is the kind of simplistic shit that will get a zillion "twits" on that South African Nazi's social media platform, and a billion takes on 1,500 AM Hate Radio stations.

I am sure Leon, or whatever the Fuck Musk name he is will find it "interesting".

Took me a few seconds to Google some stats that just might tell a different story than "yeah Florida"

Sure, New York's state budget is more than Florida's, but there may be good reasons for that.

- New York states GDP is $1.1 Trillion more than Floridas.

From 2024 data:

NY GDP is $2.4 Trillion

FL GDP is $1.3 Trillion

- You also make way more money in New York.

From 2023 data:

Average Annual Salary in Florida is $60.3K

Average Annual Salary in New York is $126K

- Average Cost of Living is very close

From 2022 data:

Average Annual Cost of Living in New York is $58.6K

Average Annual Cost of Living in Florida is $50.6K

- Just for fun, I looked at the states 2024 murder rates from the CDC.

Murder rate in New York is 4.5 per 100,000 people.

Murder rate in Florida is 7.2 per 100,000 people.

So, New York is over $1.2 trillion more productive than Florida, you make way more money for your labor in New York, the cost of living is slightly higher in New York, and you're more likely to be murdered in Florida.

Throw in the fact that there are substantially less moronic MAGAts, and I'll take New York anytime!

[JI7]

5. What stats did he show which showed Florida was better ?

What was the point of it also ? Why compare those 2 places and not other places ?

[LAS14]

9. Too much to re-type here. Someone posted a link to it up thread. nt

[LAS14]

8. THANK YOU!! nt

[Elessar Zappa]

6. More violence and lower wages in Florida.

Two big differences between the two states. Also, New York isn’t a hot and humid swamp so there’s that.

[allegorical oracle]

10. Perhaps I'm too into the aesthetics, but as a lifelong Floridian, I say it's becoming a terrible

place to live for these reasons: Book bans, constant political fights, narrow-minded politicians, expensive housing, over-crowded highways, food deserts in inner cities/rural areas, high crime, lousy parcel delivery, growing homelessness, high gas prices, high property taxes, disappearing property insurance, sketchy cell/internet signals, to name but a few.

It appears Fareed spends a lot more time in NY than in Fla. He should compare NY with someplace that has a population closer to the median age of NY.

The only folks doing well here are those who are affluent, live in big cities (and put up with the crime), and live in gated communities. A law just went into effect that allows the public to sue cities if homeless people are found trying to live in public places. (Maybe officials plan to fly them to Martha's Vineyard.)

Fla has become a nice place to visit, but most people wouldn't want to live here.