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ZonkerHarris

(25,577 posts)
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 03:34 PM Jan 2025

I thought my anger at this election would fade. It's hotter than ever today.

Certification is just another log on the fire.
I have no fucks to give anymore for everyone who voted for this corrupt regime.

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I thought my anger at this election would fade. It's hotter than ever today. (Original Post) ZonkerHarris Jan 2025 OP
Yep, and despite reading articles about how crying actually helps one's anger or depression, Attilatheblond Jan 2025 #1
Told myself that I'd just concentrate on other things and ignore TSF. But I can't fool allegorical oracle Jan 2025 #35
Sending you a big (((((HUG))))), for what it's worth Attilatheblond Jan 2025 #36
Appreciate it. My insurance was crappy, anyway. Never had a claim or missed a allegorical oracle Jan 2025 #39
You might try watching, thinking about something that usually makes you cry, and then add your thoughts about the... electric_blue68 Jan 2025 #42
It hasn't helped Attilatheblond Jan 2025 #50
I'm still angry about 1968 and 1980 DavidDvorkin Jan 2025 #2
I wonder what would have happened if Hubert Humphrey had won in 1968 Polybius Jan 2025 #18
Reagan did run in 1976 Earl_from_PA Jan 2025 #22
Yeah, that election was wild Polybius Jan 2025 #24
The loss of the Mississippi delegation Earl_from_PA Jan 2025 #25
I am a huge fan of "What if's" Polybius Jan 2025 #28
Kennedy had zero chance in 84 Earl_from_PA Jan 2025 #29
Remember when he and Rosalynn got out of the car & walked in the inaguration parade? The cheers! The joy! The hope! Attilatheblond Jan 2025 #37
If Humphrey had come in with strong majorities in Congress DavidDvorkin Jan 2025 #23
I started being political w my dad having me go w him putting local election flyers under our apt neighbors doors at... electric_blue68 Jan 2025 #44
I wasn't for McCarthy, but I did support RFK DavidDvorkin Jan 2025 #47
In the "right" circumstances it Still brings me to tears...A friend, electric_blue68 Jan 2025 #48
RFK, MLKJr, and then Nixon's election DavidDvorkin Jan 2025 #49
I keep thinking how naive I have been Easterncedar Jan 2025 #3
same here. ZonkerHarris Jan 2025 #4
I've realized the courts/law is totally fucked up for years. kerry-is-my-prez Jan 2025 #8
Yeah, I've felt pretty naive and stupid. Biophilic Jan 2025 #9
Succinct AKwannabe Jan 2025 #5
Keep your anger - it's much more pleasant than depression. kerry-is-my-prez Jan 2025 #6
You're right about that - soldierant Jan 2025 #11
I have to work at not letting all the dark emotions overwhelm me PortTack Jan 2025 #7
Yes its terrible for your/our health! Callie1979 Jan 2025 #12
Find some way to add action to your anger. How can you fight? kerry-is-my-prez Jan 2025 #14
I do it on twitter. They usually block me Callie1979 Jan 2025 #16
I do it on a site for atheists of all things. There's a few loudmouths who post dumb political things there. kerry-is-my-prez Jan 2025 #21
The thing that Figarosmom Jan 2025 #10
Another point about this is that it is impossible to escape discussion Mike 03 Jan 2025 #34
I gave up when I read not one Democrat was slightlv Jan 2025 #13
I was feeling that way at first, Butterflylady Jan 2025 #15
Of course all his failures will be blamed on "leftover from the Biden admin" Callie1979 Jan 2025 #17
Our job is to magnify and repeat every failure over and over again. kerry-is-my-prez Jan 2025 #20
First to go will be musk and it's going to be epic. Klarkashton Jan 2025 #27
Yes, I've been pointing that out to Trumpers around here Callie1979 Jan 2025 #32
Battle for superiority between Musk & Thiel will get ugly, but probably not broadcast for us peon. Attilatheblond Jan 2025 #38
Yep - it will be like George W and the Iraq War. kerry-is-my-prez Jan 2025 #19
Yes it's for shit what is happening. Klarkashton Jan 2025 #26
My anger for this shithole country will never fade because it will never be anything than a shithole country from now on yaesu Jan 2025 #30
Agree Meowmee Jan 2025 #31
Yeah. Yesterday hit me harder than I thought it would. Mike 03 Jan 2025 #33
same ZonkerHarris Jan 2025 #41
Mine will take years to abate, if then... Blue_Tires Jan 2025 #40
I know. I'm supposed to be a neighbor and stuff to the Americans that did this? Fuck that ZonkerHarris Jan 2025 #46
The fuckhead and his shitty news network successfully distracted people from Carter's funeral. Initech Jan 2025 #43
I definitely have anger at times! .... electric_blue68 Jan 2025 #45

Attilatheblond

(5,818 posts)
1. Yep, and despite reading articles about how crying actually helps one's anger or depression,
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 03:45 PM
Jan 2025

I STILL have not been able to really open the taps on tears and release the pent fury/sadness. I know I'd feel better, but can't get a good cry going and clear out the bad hormones in my bloodstream.

Hell, I cry easily, for bad AND good things. But since Nov 7? Two tears fall then it all stops. Sometimes, I fear exploding, literally.

Anger? Yes indeed. But mostly, it's the profoundly deep sadness that so many people are either complete idiots or so filled with un-examined anger that they deliberately want to destroy everything and hurt everybody.

At my age, it's weird that I would still harbor hope for this nation and its people, but I do, or rather, I did. I feel like a vital organ has been ripped from me and left me slowly bleeding out.

allegorical oracle

(4,817 posts)
35. Told myself that I'd just concentrate on other things and ignore TSF. But I can't fool
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 10:49 AM
Jan 2025

my body. Have felt downright ill since the election. (Of course, not having my property insurance renewed for 2025 didn't help.)

Attilatheblond

(5,818 posts)
36. Sending you a big (((((HUG))))), for what it's worth
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 10:54 AM
Jan 2025

Feeling ill is the general mood for all my pals here. Sorry about the insurance situation. I am facing some needed home repairs, stuff an elderly widow can't do alone and that isn't covered by insurance, so I really fear for you.

allegorical oracle

(4,817 posts)
39. Appreciate it. My insurance was crappy, anyway. Never had a claim or missed a
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 11:56 AM
Jan 2025

payment for 18 yrs. But always got an excuse why submitting a claim was useless -- even after I had damage from Hurricane Helene. Fla insurers want newer, larger homes to cover because it's more profitable.

electric_blue68

(21,277 posts)
42. You might try watching, thinking about something that usually makes you cry, and then add your thoughts about the...
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 12:38 AM
Jan 2025

election in there?
Just a thought.

I cry easily, and I have a bit re this. I expect more so by around J18. Definitely J20.

Attilatheblond

(5,818 posts)
50. It hasn't helped
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 12:17 PM
Jan 2025

Can't even squeeze out more than a couple tears thinking how much I miss my beloved husband.

DavidDvorkin

(20,155 posts)
2. I'm still angry about 1968 and 1980
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 03:56 PM
Jan 2025

In addition to 2000, 2016, and 2024.

It's hard for me to accept that none of those can be reversed. Every time I hope for a blue tsunami so that some of the damage from those elctions can be undone, the American electorate disillusions me.

Polybius

(19,866 posts)
18. I wonder what would have happened if Hubert Humphrey had won in 1968
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 10:09 PM
Jan 2025

Would he have been re-elected? What Republican would have gotten the nomination in 1972? Would Reagan have ran and won in 1976?

Earl_from_PA

(252 posts)
22. Reagan did run in 1976
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 10:32 PM
Jan 2025

But lost the nomination at the convention in Kansas City. Ford did not have the prerequisite number of delegates going into the convention. Reagan suggested his running mate would be the 'Liberal republican senator' from PA. which lost him the Mississippi delegation, giving the nomination to Ford.

Polybius

(19,866 posts)
24. Yeah, that election was wild
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 10:37 PM
Jan 2025

Reagan almost did the impossible and defeated a sitting President in the primaries. He came much, much closer than Ted Kennedy did in 1980. I wonder how Regan vs. Carter: 1976 Edition would have looked like.

Earl_from_PA

(252 posts)
25. The loss of the Mississippi delegation
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 10:49 PM
Jan 2025

Led to the republican "southern strategy". That resulted in 12 years of a republican in the white house.

BTW, I believe Carter would have won in '76 regardless of who the R candidate was. Watergate left a bad taste in the electorate's mouth. If it had been Reagan in '76, America would be a much different place today...

Polybius

(19,866 posts)
28. I am a huge fan of "What if's"
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 10:57 PM
Jan 2025

I can do them all day, and watch many videos on them. Another fun one is RFK living, or Ted Kennedy winning the nomination in 1980.

Earl_from_PA

(252 posts)
29. Kennedy had zero chance in 84
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 11:08 PM
Jan 2025

Because of Chappaquiddick. It's a fantasy. The death of an innocent girl trumps a family name. Think of the entire American electorate. The Dems should have put forth stronger candidates. Rather than who was next in line. David Boron of Oklahoma immediately comes to mind. I know. Mondale was the favorite. Boron had better appeal across the total electorate.

Attilatheblond

(5,818 posts)
37. Remember when he and Rosalynn got out of the car & walked in the inaguration parade? The cheers! The joy! The hope!
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 11:03 AM
Jan 2025

Watching on TV from my apartment in California, I wept with joy that day. Pretty sure I was not alone in that response.

DavidDvorkin

(20,155 posts)
23. If Humphrey had come in with strong majorities in Congress
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 10:33 PM
Jan 2025

(which I admit is unlikely, given how close the election was), he would have been another FDR.

electric_blue68

(21,277 posts)
44. I started being political w my dad having me go w him putting local election flyers under our apt neighbors doors at...
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 12:45 AM
Jan 2025

like12 in '65.

I was into it fully by '68, and that left a scar! I even *volunteered later on the last several weeks!

2000. Hoooo, boy! Etc

(don't know, if you were a McCarthy person, but I was sooo ready to volunteer for Bobby when he would campaign for NYS [which was after Cali 😔] so.....)

electric_blue68

(21,277 posts)
48. In the "right" circumstances it Still brings me to tears...A friend,
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 01:15 AM
Jan 2025

and I waited on that long line (?4 hrs) to pay our respects at St Patrick's Cathedral.

Easterncedar

(4,332 posts)
3. I keep thinking how naive I have been
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 03:57 PM
Jan 2025

I believed in the courts, in law, in democracy for far too long. Now even Canada, Britain and France are teetering. I really thought Britain was better, more stable, than it has become.


kerry-is-my-prez

(9,918 posts)
8. I've realized the courts/law is totally fucked up for years.
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 05:57 PM
Jan 2025

It’s even worse than I thought though. It’s why I didn’t end up going to law school. I would not want to be associated with the Supreme Court - the highest court in the land. I have to give the lawyers in the ACLU and others fighting for civil rights props for being able to deal with the mess without going ballistic. What was that movie that had Al Pacino in it as a lawyer? That was realistic. I would have been Pacino x 10 with my temper.

Biophilic

(5,580 posts)
9. Yeah, I've felt pretty naive and stupid.
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 05:57 PM
Jan 2025

I honestly believed that right would prevail. And I believed that our country and its democracy would stand. It’s been tough to get passed this. Not there yet, but I will be.

kerry-is-my-prez

(9,918 posts)
6. Keep your anger - it's much more pleasant than depression.
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 05:47 PM
Jan 2025

I’ve been angry since November and it’s what makes people active.

soldierant

(8,466 posts)
11. You're right about that -
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 06:17 PM
Jan 2025

nothing ever changes or will change unless someone gets angry at what is.

kerry-is-my-prez

(9,918 posts)
14. Find some way to add action to your anger. How can you fight?
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 06:44 PM
Jan 2025

I’ve been posting things on Facebook and other forums. I’ve been attacking right-wingers online and it feels great to totally eviscerate them. There’s a couple of dumb asses who post on some site and I like to beat up on them. A few other people on the site seem to love it. It might not do too much, but it sure makes me feel better.

Callie1979

(679 posts)
16. I do it on twitter. They usually block me
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 09:25 PM
Jan 2025

Even though my profile PLAINLY states "blocking me just shows your ignorance"

kerry-is-my-prez

(9,918 posts)
21. I do it on a site for atheists of all things. There's a few loudmouths who post dumb political things there.
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 10:28 PM
Jan 2025

Since most of the other people on there and the moderators agree with me - I get away with it. It’s my opportunity to let out all the anger out and make some MAGATs look really stupid. Most everyone likes my posts and the MAGAT hides in embarrassment for a while. As they say “the pen is mightier than the sword.” Being a writer and having facts on my side, no MAGAt is safe on there.

Figarosmom

(5,502 posts)
10. The thing that
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 06:00 PM
Jan 2025

Pisses me off is how they are already attacking our allies. Canada and Denmark. Who is next? And when will the media wake up and stop acting as though its a realistic suggestion that we take over countries by extortion. And will they go away at the end of 4 years?

Mike 03

(18,435 posts)
34. Another point about this is that it is impossible to escape discussion
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 08:10 AM
Jan 2025

of Trump, whether one tunes to the BBC, CBC, Canadian talk radio, any news source originating in Europe. About four sentences in to every news report comes a headline about Trump, or an interview with a foreign politician talking about the threat he poses, the danger that is coming...

slightlv

(5,456 posts)
13. I gave up when I read not one Democrat was
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 06:33 PM
Jan 2025

going to protest the certification. At least one did back when Bush Jr was selected. This time, no one speaks for the many, many of us... especially those of us who are veterans... who know the constitution reads in black and white that he shouldn't even have been allowed to run, let alone be certified.

I've been a Democrat my entire life, and I'll die voting Democrat. But let me tell you, I'm sorely disappointed over these past 10-15 years at how little the Democrats have gotten done in the vital areas of shoring up democracy and rights for every American. There are all kinds of excuses, but I'm just really tired of hearing them.

I knew today was certification day. I just kind of blew it off... the same way I'm probably going to blow it all off from this point on, as much as I can, anyway. Eventually, sooner rather than later, my hot button will get pushed and I'll feel the righteous anger and move toward action at that point.

Butterflylady

(4,386 posts)
15. I was feeling that way at first,
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 07:13 PM
Jan 2025

Then it made sense. Things are horrible in the entire world. Dump is going to screw up everything, that's when all things will be seen in a different light. I watched a video this morning made by Tim (forgot his last name) of the Bulmark. In this video Tim had different people giving their predictions of the coming year.

They all had different views, but the one that caught my attention was the last person on. She is publisher of the Bulwark. She said that dump and his gang are going to cannibalize each other.

When you have candidates that are the bottom of the barrel and ignorant to boot, you know dam well things will go from bad to worse. All we have to do is sit back and watch the turmoil that's created. Then we'll be able say, hey dump you told the American people that you know everything, you're going to fix all our problems, what the hell happened. Remember, dump loves firing people and he hasn't changed that much.

Someone said that Johnson will be the first of the first speaker to go with 2 more to follow. Anyway after listening to all, I don't feel so bad because we all know he's going to fuck up so bad.

Callie1979

(679 posts)
17. Of course all his failures will be blamed on "leftover from the Biden admin"
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 09:31 PM
Jan 2025

But the firings will be hard to pin on Biden.
But MAGA will just call them RINOs or some other such BS

kerry-is-my-prez

(9,918 posts)
20. Our job is to magnify and repeat every failure over and over again.
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 10:17 PM
Jan 2025

Just like the Republicans would do. Everything is going to blow up beginnng Jan 20 when he lets all the savages out and tramples all over the states to get “the brown people out.”

Callie1979

(679 posts)
32. Yes, I've been pointing that out to Trumpers around here
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 07:47 AM
Jan 2025

They still think he's gonna be just GREAT at cutting the size of govt
I keep telling them he could cure cancer and if he gets too much press Trump will cut him loose & call him "not very bright"

Attilatheblond

(5,818 posts)
38. Battle for superiority between Musk & Thiel will get ugly, but probably not broadcast for us peon.
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 11:12 AM
Jan 2025

Thiel's man-puppet will likely find a way to 25th the orange man, then he will go on to do as much, or more, damage globally. It's another dark age we humans face, as the Oligarch War Lords override nations and the battles for resources and money escalate.

kerry-is-my-prez

(9,918 posts)
19. Yep - it will be like George W and the Iraq War.
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 10:13 PM
Jan 2025

You will find very few people willing to admit to voting for him.

yaesu

(8,622 posts)
30. My anger for this shithole country will never fade because it will never be anything than a shithole country from now on
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 11:20 PM
Jan 2025

Meowmee

(9,013 posts)
31. Agree
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 01:26 AM
Jan 2025

I am too exhausted to feel angry most of the time... just fear and worry a lot. I just raked leaves again for hours before the snow. I am just concentrating on my own life now mostly and my kitties, and so many things that need to be done.

Mike 03

(18,435 posts)
33. Yeah. Yesterday hit me harder than I thought it would.
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 08:07 AM
Jan 2025

But just in general, I don't feel calmer or more secure going into January 20 today than I did on November 6. If anything, the sense of fear and loathing is stronger.

 

ZonkerHarris

(25,577 posts)
46. I know. I'm supposed to be a neighbor and stuff to the Americans that did this? Fuck that
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 12:54 AM
Jan 2025

Initech

(104,709 posts)
43. The fuckhead and his shitty news network successfully distracted people from Carter's funeral.
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 12:43 AM
Jan 2025

By saying the most out there and outrageous shit they possibly could. Fuck him and his shitty news network.

electric_blue68

(21,277 posts)
45. I definitely have anger at times! ....
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 12:51 AM
Jan 2025

It still feels partly unbelievable to me, but it'll be very real J20.
Ghads!

Staying constantly angry is not so good.

I have good interests to distract me.

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