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4th

(247 posts)
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 02:29 PM Jan 2025

And just like that Macron goes MAGA

At least that's how I interpret this story.

Macron affirms Trump has ‘solid ally’ in France, urges realism from Ukraine over territory
AP via OC Register

PARIS (AP) — French President Emmanuel Macron said his country was a “a solid ally” of President-elect Donald Trump on Monday as he outlined his vision for global diplomacy in 2025, while warning that France could lose the incoming U.S. leader’s respect by being “weak and defeatist.”

“Donald Trump knows that he has a solid ally in France, an ally he does not underestimate, one who believes in Europe and carries a lucid ambition for the transatlantic relationship,” Macron said in a New Year’s speech at the Élysée Palace, emphasizing France’s commitment to fostering cooperation while urging European nations to fortify their unity and resilience.

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And just like that Macron goes MAGA (Original Post) 4th Jan 2025 OP
No he has not..... Lovie777 Jan 2025 #1
Elon needs a one-way trip to the Hague NOW. Initech Jan 2025 #2
You are not wrong. What kind of spell has the Universe cast over earth? Jit423 Jan 2025 #3
I know. The whole world is turning right... ananda Jan 2025 #14
more like political realism RussBLib Jan 2025 #4
We need to accept that many European countries are dependent on the US economically and militarily. LonePirate Jan 2025 #5
we're ALL going through battered wife syndrome...for sure FirstLight Jan 2025 #8
OK, what do you think Trump no_hypocrisy Jan 2025 #6
Nothing Mossfern Jan 2025 #20
We are not going back to Freedom Fries 💩. France has had diplomatic ties with us since 1778 Deuxcents Jan 2025 #7
And we may have been a major reason for the French Revolution. (Heard this yesterday.) elleng Jan 2025 #18
Nothing surprising there WarGamer Jan 2025 #9
Everyone (especially those outside the US) has to make the best out of a bad situation newdeal2 Jan 2025 #10
Of course he does. Macron does these back flips because he Mike 03 Jan 2025 #11
trump and musk want le pen anyway rampartd Jan 2025 #13
Between Putin, trDUMP, and Eloon,... magicarpet Jan 2025 #12
Nope. GoodRaisin Jan 2025 #15
No, he has not Sundance1220 Jan 2025 #16
Macaron being realistic . obnoxiousdrunk Jan 2025 #17
They're the same difference. vanessa_ca Jan 2025 #19
No JoseBalow Jan 2025 #23
International diplomacy canetoad Jan 2025 #21
The word you're looking for is "pragmatic" JoseBalow Jan 2025 #22

Jit423

(1,244 posts)
3. You are not wrong. What kind of spell has the Universe cast over earth?
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 02:32 PM
Jan 2025

We can't serve god and mammon and the devil. We have to choose.

LonePirate

(14,077 posts)
5. We need to accept that many European countries are dependent on the US economically and militarily.
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 02:34 PM
Jan 2025

They cannot be hostile to the US while Putin is still invading Ukraine with his eyes set on westward expansion.

I do not mean to insult anyone with this statement; but many European countries (and others) are going through a battered wife syndrome with Trump in office given how he cares more for Russia than he cares for our allies and western democracies.

FirstLight

(14,987 posts)
8. we're ALL going through battered wife syndrome...for sure
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 02:43 PM
Jan 2025

..and the EU is having to walk a fuckin tightrope between the US and Russia

Deuxcents

(21,900 posts)
7. We are not going back to Freedom Fries 💩. France has had diplomatic ties with us since 1778
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 02:43 PM
Jan 2025

And we’ve survived many major disasters and crises and for them to offer their support is a sign of respect no matter who sits in the White House. We just gotta hope TSF doesn’t screw this relationship up, either.

elleng

(139,228 posts)
18. And we may have been a major reason for the French Revolution. (Heard this yesterday.)
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 03:59 PM
Jan 2025

France owed huge sums AFTER their revolution, due largely to their spending FOR our Revolution.

newdeal2

(2,349 posts)
10. Everyone (especially those outside the US) has to make the best out of a bad situation
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 02:53 PM
Jan 2025

They know how Trump thinks and are working him accordingly to their benefit. Or at least to avoid his wrath. Maybe their flattery can successfully move him away from his worst instincts. Doubtful.

Mike 03

(18,403 posts)
11. Of course he does. Macron does these back flips because he
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 03:01 PM
Jan 2025

has a need to be liked. But he would be so much more liked and respected if he had a spine and true convictions that he could stick to.

rampartd

(1,832 posts)
13. trump and musk want le pen anyway
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 03:22 PM
Jan 2025

macron will eventually be swamped with the same propaganda tsunami that is breaking over us

magicarpet

(18,075 posts)
12. Between Putin, trDUMP, and Eloon,...
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 03:18 PM
Jan 2025

DEMOCRACY on the world stage looks kind of weak right now. Ultra-conservatism (Fascism) is at the forefront and gaining recognition and acceptance. Propaganda and internal meddling in the ways of governance have paid off handsomely.

Here we are at the threshold of soft and hard Fascist takeover of our governmental processes.

This is the New World Order G.H.W. Bush tried to inform us of. His Dad Senator Prescott Bush was a devout Nazi/Fascist sympathizer. Prescott's mentor was George Herbert Walker a Wall Street investment banker - who led Hitler's off shore investments of European theater derived WW II plundering. George Herbert Walker eventually became Prescott Bush's father in law, after having married his daughter. Thus in honor of his mentor and father in law - Prescott named his son George Herbert Walker Bush. His wife's father's sir name melded into the naming of the son, George Herbert Walker Bush.

Fascism runs deep in the Bush family DNA. Just a hop, a skip, and a jump - Senator Prescott Bush's offspring were very instrumental in bringing us to the threshold of the New World Order - where Fascism will soon reign and become the common rule of the day.

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