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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHe's right. The flag has never been at half staff during a swearing in of president. . .except:
John Tyler
Millard Fillmore
Andrew Johnson
Chester Arthur
Theodore Roosevelt
Harry Truman
Lyndon Johnson
Richard Nixon
All were at half staff at their swearing in.
And no American will stand for it, just like No True Scotsman will . . . aren't logical fallacies wonderful?
FalloutShelter
(12,955 posts)Truman passed on Dec. 26, 1972
Clouds Passing
(3,302 posts)oldtime dfl_er
(7,036 posts).
groundloop
(12,440 posts)calimary
(84,942 posts)But hey, hes the I Need Fact-Checking King of this decade.
malaise
(279,827 posts)Ignoramus
ShazzieB
(19,113 posts)And don't forget, this is not just an ignoramus we're talking about. It's a malignantly narcissistic ignoramus that thinks it is the center of the universe and personalizes every single frickin' thing that happens to it (or around it, or near it, or within its awareness).
Never forget: When it comes to the Orange Hellbeast, EVERYTHING is ALL about him, ALL of the damned time!
Dave Bowman
(4,191 posts)I like it! 👍
ShazzieB
(19,113 posts)Hellbeast sums up exactly what I think he is, because he's like an evil force come to destroy everything that matters.
malaise
(279,827 posts)Dave Bowman
(4,191 posts)Damn I miss Alex...
Omnipresent
(6,565 posts)None of that list of presidents cried like a whiny, little baby, about the flag being flown at half staff.
Melania, its time for you to change your husbands diaper!
Dave Bowman
(4,191 posts)AZ8theist
(6,619 posts)He's nowhere near that smart.
Dave Bowman
(4,191 posts)Attilatheblond
(4,880 posts)Never been a grown (groan?) man so badly treated in the history of mankind.... according to him.
bronxiteforever
(9,665 posts)by inviting chinese communist leader Xi to his inauguration.
If any foreign leaders do show up at the inaugural ceremony, it would be unprecedented.
State Department records dating back to 1874, when the first visit by a foreign leader took place, show no head of a foreign country has ever attended a presidential inauguration in the U.S., though CBS notes its common for lower-ranking foreign diplomats or ambassadors to show up.
Foreign leaders arent typically invited to inaugurations due to the large crowds and security concerns, officials told the Associated Press in 2009, when Barack Obamas transition team declined to invite any heads of state to his inauguration, citing historical precedent.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2024/12/13/trump-invited-chinese-president-xi-jinping-and-other-world-leaders-to-inauguration-heres-why-thats-unprecedented/
I guess the GOP party leaders agree with this. Too bad the media just dropped this. I guess they cant be too critical of their paymasters hero.
Farmer-Rick
(11,597 posts)Such an impossible invitation. Imagine him traveling so far away, his security detail would be huge. He would be standing within shooting range of GOP members who see him, and his form of communism, as the devil.
Imagine Xi having to listen to the unfiltered crap spewing forth from the pedophile. Could he remain stoic and not cringe?
What a stupid invitation but maybe pedo Trump was trying to pump up.his spectator numbers with Xi's security team.
Journeyman
(15,209 posts)KS Toronado
(20,048 posts)So do what he wants!
Dave Bowman
(4,191 posts)rubbersole
(8,847 posts)...just fly the Russian flag during the "inauguration". Then put ours back in place.
surfered
(4,283 posts)who defeats J D Vance in 2028.
Wounded Bear
(61,013 posts)AZLD4Candidate
(6,443 posts)I know, right?
lastlib
(25,100 posts)sworn in after Warren Harding's death.
AZLD4Candidate
(6,443 posts)Ford_Prefect
(8,242 posts)His ego is an exaggerated safety device to prevent his consciousness from encountering any confounding information.
Short version: DJT is a whining brat who avoids the truth to the extent that he physically cannot speak it nor bear to hear it spoken.
mucholderthandirt
(1,257 posts)onenote
(44,880 posts)There have been numerous instances of presidents being sworn in within 30 days of the death of previous president, including all of the instances of a VP being sworn in upon the death of a sitting president. The latter group of swearing in ceremonies aren't really the kind of event most people think of as an "inauguration ceremony" and its not clear whether an order directing the flying of flags at half staff was made before or after the swearing in all of those cases.
But in the case of Nixon's 1973 inauguration, flags had been ordered flown at half staff following the death of Truman a few weeks earlier and were still at half staff on inauguration day:https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=AwrFQJTeRXxnRKAJHWeJzbkF;_ylu=c2VjA3NlYXJjaARzbGsDYnV0dG9u;_ylc=X1MDOTYwNjI4NTcEX3IDMgRmcgN5ZnAtdARmcjIDcDpzLHY6aSxtOnNiLXRvcARncHJpZAMxRlVQUXZ6eFJ0bVZFODEzNC53NmhBBG5fcnNsdAMwBG5fc3VnZwMwBG9yaWdpbgNpbWFnZXMuc2VhcmNoLnlhaG9vLmNvbQRwb3MDMARwcXN0cgMEcHFzdHJsAzAEcXN0cmwDMzYEcXVlcnkDbml4b24lMjBpbmF1Z3VyYXRpb24lMjAxOTczJTIwcGhvdG9zJTIwZmxhZ3MEdF9zdG1wAzE3MzYxOTc2NDk-?p=nixon+inauguration+1973+photos+flags&fr=yfp-t&fr2=p%3As%2Cv%3Ai%2Cm%3Asb-top&ei=UTF-8&x=wrt#id=44&iurl=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.gettyimages.com%2Fid%2F517285048%2Fphoto%2F1-20-1973-washington-dc-president-richard-nixon-inauguration-general-view-of-swearing-in.jpg%3Fs%3D612x612%26w%3Dgi%26k%3D20%26c%3DT872GPryj0aMa7f-NJXLeS75ld1vMvTK5M4jO13BBl8%3D&action=click
Dave Bowman
(4,191 posts)Journeyman
(15,209 posts)This article provides a short synopsis of most of the examples.
https://www.whitehousehistory.org/press-room/press-backgrounders/presidential-and-state-funerals
Glorfindel
(10,027 posts)I'm sure the flag was at half-staff when Coolidge was sworn in.
markpkessinger
(8,630 posts)The rule of flying flags at half staff for 30 days in honor of a deceased former president is part of the U.S. Flag Code, which was instituted by Eisenhower in 1954. Prior to that, there was no uniform flag code, so the actual practice may have varied quite a bit.
markpkessinger
(8,630 posts). . . is part of the U.S. Flag Code, which didn't exist prior to 1954, when Eisenhower signed it into law. So while you are certainly right about Johnson and Nixon, I'm not sure it was the case with Truman and the earlier presidents. Do you have a source that can confirm that?
markpkessinger
(8,630 posts). . . since he was sworn in aboard Air Force One and there was no formal inauguration per se (although there was in 1964, when he was elected to office).
markpkessinger
(8,630 posts). . . we really cannot just assume that it was done for the inaugurations of Tyler through Truman, because there was no flag code prior to 1954, when Eisenhower instituted it. And Johnson's swearing in happened on Air Force One, so there was no inauguration per se, except when he ran and won in 1964. As for Nixon, yes, one can readily verify that they were flown at half mast at his second inauguration in 1973 in honor of Truman's passing in December of 1972.
I tried to do some checking, but could find no source verifying that flags were at half staff for any of the earlier inaugurations.
Celerity
(47,363 posts)markpkessinger
(8,630 posts). . . It doesn't appear that flags were flown at half staff.
https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/general-view-of-the-capitol-and-the-crowd-attending-the-news-photo/1169815382
Unladen Swallow
(491 posts)Figarosmom
(3,780 posts)Swearing in
He was FDRs vice and was sworn in at his death
markpkessinger
(8,630 posts). . . his first swearing in took place in the Cabinet room of the White House.
kerry-is-my-prez
(9,475 posts)I swear Jimmy picked the right time to go. Comparisons are being made between the goodness of him and the evilness of Trump over and over. And the fact that Trump will have his day ruined by the flags being flown half-mast is probably giving Jimmy a chuckle. Anyone else would not let it ruin their day but for someone as petty as Trump, it will really aggravate him.
Figarosmom
(3,780 posts)Because it is all about him.
lostnfound
(16,783 posts)maybe a Canadian voice.
TheGreatConspiracy
(55 posts)And if I were Trump, I would refuse to serve as president under such conditions.
Historic NY
(38,246 posts)Evolve Dammit
(19,471 posts)dchill
(40,966 posts)Ping Tung
(1,543 posts)AZLD4Candidate
(6,443 posts)Ping Tung
(1,543 posts)gopiscrap
(24,260 posts)to full staff as soon as he is inaugurated
MacKasey
(1,279 posts)About how he was a POS to have it done.
Bluetus
(444 posts)for flags to fly at half staff, regardless of President Carter.