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erronis

(17,408 posts)
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 10:17 AM Jan 6

Key Oath Keepers leader revealed as former Las Vegas police detective

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/06/oath-keepers-rightwing-militia-police

Details about Utah-based Robert Kinch, who backed ‘race war’, suggest rightwing militia has retained links with police

The man in control of the Utah-based rightwing militia Oath Keepers USA, a recent spinoff of the national organization first established by Stewart Rhodes in 2009, is a former Las Vegas metropolitan police department (LVMPD) homicide detective who left the force in acrimony after advocating “race war”.

The revelations about Robert “Bobby” Kinch, now of Duck Creek, Utah, come from public records, online materials and the work of a longtime infiltrator of the patriot movement in the Pacific north-west, who provided vital evidence to the Guardian captured inside Kinch’s home.

The findings show that four years on from January 6, the Oath Keepers, who played a central role in fomenting that day’s insurrection in Washington, have not disappeared but have continued quietly adding law-enforcement officers to their ranks.

The return of Donald Trump to the presidency may encourage the likes of Kinch to bring their movement back into the spotlight, as the incoming administration promises to carry out unprecedented mass deportation of immigrants and to take on Trump’s perceived opponents, whom he has described as “the enemy within”.

Heidi Beirich, chief strategy officer and co-founder of the Global Project Against Hate and Extremism (GPAHE), said: “These disclosures show once again how police departments aren’t taking the threat of extremists in the ranks seriously.”


ProPublica's article on the infiltrator (I believe): https://www.propublica.org/article/ap3-oath-keepers-militia-mole
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magicarpet

(17,322 posts)
2. LEO - [Law Enforcement Officers] of all stripes love them some djt.
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 11:47 AM
Jan 6

Local, municipal, county, state, federal, immigration, and military police all worship the ground trDUMP walks upon.

Unions, firefighters, construction workers, farmers, oil/fracking workers, etc. etc.- all are devoted to and blindly support djt. It is driven by peer pressure and being the macho manly thing to do. Somehow they all erroneously think djt is the paragon of masculinity that every man should worship, envy, and emulate.

Propaganda, lies, fabrications, and perception management are very incideous and dangerous things to the continuance of a functioning and thriving democracy.

erronis

(17,408 posts)
4. It is interesting. None of trump's idols (hitler, mussolini, putin, musk, etc.) are "manly"
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 11:52 AM
Jan 6

In fact I would guess that they were/are all trying to overcome their lack of manliness by being evil.

Kid Berwyn

(18,734 posts)
5. Why We Don't Know Much About Right-Wing Terrorists
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 11:55 AM
Jan 6
Why Don’t We Know Much About Right-Wing Terrorists?

Conservatives Fired The Guy Studying Them


JAMESON PARKER
AddictingInfo, JUNE 18, 2015 4:41 PM

After a mass shooting at a historically black church in Charleston, South Carolina, left nine people dead and a right-wing white supremacist arrested, the country once again faces the uneasy question of just how many so-called “home-grown” terrorists are out there – heavily armed, ideologically driven, and violent.

It’s a good question, but it may be tough to answer because for reasons that are astoundingly dimwitted, the Department of Homeland Security pushed out the guy who was in charge of watching them, and dismantled his team all the way back in 2009.

The beleaguered hero of this story is Daryl Johnson, a top government counterterrorism analyst working at Homeland Security who spent six years with the agency amassing a wealth of data on far-right extremist groups that posed various degrees of threat to citizens in the United States. In 2009, in the months after President Obama assumed office, he watched as these groups veered even further right, and began to fear that America’s first African-American president could be the catalyst of a major uptick in hate crimes and anti-government attacks.

In a landmark report released just months into Obama’s term, and now looks downright clairvoyant, Johnson made the case that radical Islam is only a small piece of the terrorism pie:

“Do not overlook other types of terrorist groups,” the report warned, noting that five purely domestic groups had considered using weapons of mass destruction in that period. Similar warnings have been issued by the two principal non-government groups that track domestic terrorism: the New York-based Anti-Defamation League and the Alabama-based Southern Poverty Law Center.

An annual tally by the latter group of what it calls “Terror From the Right” listed 13 major incidents and arrests last year, nearly double the annual number in previous years; the group also reported the number of hate groups had topped 1,000 in 2010, for the first time in at least two decades.


In response to that report, Johnson was destroyed. It wasn’t his integrity or claims that got him in trouble, his facts were solid. Instead, it was the inconvenient truth that much of the threat comes from right-wing conservatives, and even more awkwardly, radical right-wing conservatives who say and think a lot of the same things mainstream right-wing conservatives say and think.

CONTINUED w/links...

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/06/18/why-dont-we-know-much-about-right-wing-terrorists-conservatives-fired-the-guy-studying-them/

That was from 2015.

Internet Archive Waybac, if link doesn’t work:

http://web.archive.org/web/20150910045015/http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/06/18/why-dont-we-know-much-about-right-wing-terrorists-conservatives-fired-the-guy-studying-them/

erronis

(17,408 posts)
6. Thanks for that excerpt from AddictingInfo. That link is non-response but the archived link works.
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 12:08 PM
Jan 6

Wonder how long before many/most/all links will no longer work....

Kid Berwyn

(18,734 posts)
9. Under Kash? Soon...and another reason why DU is so important.
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 01:25 PM
Jan 6

An example from 2011:

Whatever happened to holding Clarence Thomas accountable?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100237365

While the links may no longer work, the text contains names, places and the key words to light up the Google.

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