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marble falls

(62,571 posts)
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 09:13 AM Yesterday

Where Do Humans Really Rank on the Food Chain?

Where Do Humans Really Rank on the Food Chain?

We’re not at the top, but towards the middle, at a level similar to pigs and anchovies.

https://getpocket.com/explore/item/where-do-humans-really-rank-on-the-food-chain

Joseph Stromberg


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On a scale of 1 to 5, with 1 being the score of a primary producer (a plant) and 5 being a pure apex predator (a animal that only eats meat and has few or no predators of its own, like a tiger, crocodile or boa constrictor), they found that based on diet, humans score a 2.21—roughly equal to an anchovy or pig. Their findings confirm common sense: We're omnivores, eating a mix of plants and animals, rather than top-level predators that only consume meat.

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The researchers, led by Sylvain Bonhommeau of the French Research Institute for Exploitation of the Sea, used FAO data to construct models of peoples' diets in different countries over time, and used this to calculate HTL in 176 countries from 1961 to 2009. Calculating HTL is fairly straightforward: If a person diet is made up of half plant products and half meat, his or her trophic level will be 2.5. More meat, and the score increases; more plants, and it decreases.

With the FAO data, they found that while the worldwide HTL is 2.21, this varies widely: The country with the lowest score (Burundi) was 2.04, representing a diet that was 96.7 percent plant-based, while the country with the highest (Iceland) was 2.54, reflecting a diet that contained slightly more meats than plants.

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Unfortunately, like the garbage problem, the meat problem doesn't hint at an obvious solution. Billions of people getting wealthier and having more choice over the diet they eat, on a basic level, is a good thing. In an ideal world, we'd figure out ways to make that transition less damaging while still feeding huge populations. For example, some researchers have advocated for offbeat food sources like meal worms as a sustainable meat, while others are trying to develop lab-grown cultured meat as an environmentally-friendly alternative. Meanwhile, some in Sweden are proposing a tax on meat to curb its environmental cost while government officials in the UK are urging consumers to cut back on their demand for meat to increase global food security and to improve health. Time will tell which approaches stick.

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Joseph Stromberg was previously a digital reporter for Smithsonian.

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Where Do Humans Really Rank on the Food Chain? (Original Post) marble falls Yesterday OP
The "food chain" is based on carnivorous animals. MineralMan Yesterday #1
Seems like a flawed measure... JT45242 Yesterday #2
Well, we've become apex predators Elessar Zappa Yesterday #3

MineralMan

(148,110 posts)
1. The "food chain" is based on carnivorous animals.
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 09:55 AM
Yesterday

As omnivores, humans naturally rank lower than successful predators.

However, we have become the dominant species on the planet, in part because we are omnivores. Omnivores tend to have higher survival rates overall.

JT45242

(3,008 posts)
2. Seems like a flawed measure...
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 09:57 AM
Yesterday

Omnivores can get a wider variety of nutrients with more energy efficiency than pure carnivores. This is why even polar bears eat some vegetation.

What animal primarily preys on people for food? What percent of our population is lost to predators and not disease annually?

If we are that low, an increase in what predator could cause a population collapse or a decrease would cause a population explosion (think Kaibob situation when people removed predators of deer who then over step the vegetation and caused a population collapse).

What predatory animal has a lagging sinusoidal population curve with people?

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